Horror Dexter - Part 6

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I wish I could take credit but I found it on Tumblr.

Spoiler

Daniel Vogel violently kills Dexter and Hannah while Harrison watches. He murders them similar to the way Dexter’s mother was murdered (and he could do that because he knows everything about Dexter/Dexter’s mom’s murder thanks to Evelyn). Harrison is carried away from the crime scene. We see the same over-the-cop’s-shoulder shot of Harrison’s face that we saw of young Dexter’s. Their expressions are the same. Daniel Vogel’s ultimate revenge on Dexter is traumatizing his son and turning him into a serial killer.

Deb raises Harrison and, once she realizes he’s a psychopath, teaches him the code and reveals to him who Dexter really was. The series ends with Daniel Vogel strapped to a table while a late-teen/early 20’s Harrison stands over him. The soft piano music (It’s called “House” by Daniel Licht jtlyk) begins playing. Dexter appears over Harrison’s shoulder revealing that he is Harrison’s “Harry”. Fade to black.

And to Be Honest I really like this ending better than what was given. Let me know your thoughts.

That would have been pretty damn good.

 

[georgec]

Oh and their explanation for his miraculous boat escape:

The Dexter writers are something else.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Batista is officially the worst detective ever.

Was he ever a good detective?

I mean, really who, besides Doakes, Lundy and Deb, were actually good detectives on this show? I got the feeling, in ever season, that these definitely weren't the best and brightest Miami's Finest had to offer.

Which was what made it a great place to hunt for Dex.

 

[Teelie]

Having read the writers defense of the last season I can understand where they were going with showing the characters moving on with these subplots but the execution fell flat.

Masuka they rightly pointed out was extremely sexist so to rectify this they give him a daughter, the one woman he can't hit on (after his mother obviously and I don't recall a sister ever mentioned either). So she makes him more mature by literally making it impossible for him to be sexist to. It's the easy way out. There is no effort there for Masuka to mature.

Quinn is where...? He dumped Batista's sister, lost Deb. Has lost pretty much every woman he was close to and even got denied killing Saxon who indirectly killed Deb. He was passed over for the sargent's position and now he's just supposed to move on with his life? In what direction? Does he give into his own dark inclinations or is he going to perservere and become the cop and man he was trying to become for Deb?

Batista at least has his position and the bar he owns. He's got his sister and his life more together than we first saw him. Still a mediocre detective and a good guy but we've got an idea he'll be fine.

Hannah and Harrison are going to be living in Argentina and hopefully move on with their lives past the deaths they've suffered through. Especially Harrison who nearly got his own Dexter treatment when his mother was murdered in front of him. Hannah hopefully will be able to see and direct him from any Dark Passengers that arise.

Everyone else is either dead or of so little consequence we didn't get any glimpse of their future.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I don't think that's what they were going for. The writers said Dexter is now basically in "shutdown" mode. I don't think there's a Dark Passenger there. I don't think there's even a "Dexter" there. He's just a husk.

The entire EW interview is worth a read to try and rationalise some of the decisions they made in the finale and season in general. I can't say I agree with any of them but it is what it is...

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/23/dexter-interview-series-finale/

Hmm... apparently they didn't go with Miami Metro finding out because it felt "predictable" and "non-interesting"

The jig being up would have been predictable, that is true.

But, I fail to see what's wrong with being predictable. If the execution is right, predictable becomes the inevitable...and winds up being pitch perfect for a story's theme.

The only way that Miami Metro not finding out works perfectly for me is if Harrison carries on his father's path. I really would have liked that, with Deb becoming Harry. So, it becoming Dexter's code. And the son becoming the father, with the cycle of violence and "darkness" in the blood being a theme to build on.

I feel like the ending they went with was a door being left open for Dexter to return. Either a mini-series, or a film. Doesn't feel like an actual ending to me.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Having read the writers defense of the last season I can understand where they were going with showing the characters moving on with these subplots but the execution fell flat.

Masuka they rightly pointed out was extremely sexist so to rectify this they give him a daughter, the one woman he can't hit on (after his mother obviously and I don't recall a sister ever mentioned either). So she makes him more mature by literally making it impossible for him to be sexist to. It's the easy way out. There is no effort there for Masuka to mature.

Quinn is where...? He dumped Batista's sister, lost Deb. Has lost pretty much every woman he was close to and even got denied killing Saxon who indirectly killed Deb. He was passed over for the sargent's position and now he's just supposed to move on with his life? In what direction? Does he give into his own dark inclinations or is he going to perservere and become the cop and man he was trying to become for Deb?

Batista at least has his position and the bar he owns. He's got his sister and his life more together than we first saw him. Still a mediocre detective and a good guy but we've got an idea he'll be fine.

Hannah and Harrison are going to be living in Argentina and hopefully move on with their lives past the deaths they've suffered through. Especially Harrison who nearly got his own Dexter treatment when his mother was murdered in front of him. Hannah hopefully will be able to see and direct him from any Dark Passengers that arise.

Everyone else is either dead or of so little consequence we didn't get any glimpse of their future.

I agree.

I didn't like what they did with Masuka. I mean, he's a pervert. He's weird. It's why he's funny. I think any endeavor to have him mature is a mistake, and considering he's probably at an age where, if he hasn't matured by now...chances are he never will. Him meeting a woman whose as kinky and perverted as he is, and him just getting married is probably something that would have worked out better for me. You get a kind of maturity that I guess people might want, without diluting a key part of the character. Him being the pervy weirdo he is.

Pretty much everyone else is just kinda...forgotten by the end, really. We did't get any sense of "life moves on", or anything. They kind of left everything on hold with people like Batista and Quinn having to deal with what happened to Deb, and now Dex. I really would have expected a monologue from Dexter, as we're seeing these people from his "cover" life moving on. Either winding up in better places or worse places than before.

Like, seeing Quinn doing drugs off a stripper's body only to wind up dead for being a dirty cop again mixed up with the wrong people. He was clearly devastated by what happened to Deb. Aside from Dexter, Quinn was probably the most affected by it because there was alot of hope, and promise, in the future for him with her. Other things, like Batista maybe climbing the ladder some more, etc.

Elway wound up being a more important character than I would have anticipated, during the season, and by the end they seem to just go out of their way to ignore his existence and what they've built upon with him this season.

They've always seemed to struggle with the supporting characters on this series, so I guess it's no surprise that they continued to this season and at the finale.

 

[Broseph44]

That article just wow, the way the writers explain a lot of their thinking is just laughable.

 

[Teelie]

I think with the way Six Feet Under ended that showing an epilogue would feel too close to what MCH did in his last major series (which IMO was a far better way to wind down the finale). I would have liked to know where everyone wound up 10, 20 or more years from but at the same time they seemed to not know what to do in the present time to even think of the future.

 

[antsman41]

What article?

 

[georgec]

That article just wow, the way the writers explain a lot of their thinking is just laughable.

I've gotta hand it to them, though. Being able to shrug off and callously dismiss all the valid criticism takes some serious effort.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I don't know, these days with so much hate spewed at everything for anything...and everywhere, it's probably easier now to shrug off valid criticism than ever before. You just bunch it in with the horribly put together ones, and say "whatever" these days.

 

[Broseph44]

I'm debating on actually not even buying this season when it's released on blu ray/DVD.

 

[Teelie]

What article?

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/23/dexter-interview-series-finale/

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Interesting look at what they were going for with the end. The explanation makes it more interesting me, like mentioning that Dexter has even lose his voice over. There's nothing left anymore. A self-imposed exile from humanity is very interesting.

The execution just wasn't as good as the concept, though.

It is interesting to hear them somewhat agree with Showtime rushed them a bit. They don't outright say it, but it sounded like they were rushed. Which, I think that final episode...it kinda shows that they were. They probably should have spaced things out better, to go for what they wanted.

 

[The Navigator]

I've gotta hand it to them, though. Being able to shrug off and callously dismiss all the valid criticism takes some serious effort.

No kidding. Their answer about Hannah not dyeing her hair or taking any kind of precautions is hilarious.

 

[RoboAmish]

No kidding. Their answer about Hannah not dyeing her hair or taking any kind of precautions is hilarious.

I loved that

They suggest in that interview that they were consciously cutting back on the voiceover this season but I didn't notice any less than any previous seasons

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Makes me wonder what we would have got if they didn't make them start so soon. I think if Dexter started at the regular time then maybe they would have put more thought in to it

 

[georgec]

Makes me wonder what we would have got if they didn't make them start so soon. I think if Dexter started at the regular time then maybe they would have put more thought in to it

I think that's precisely why the season started sooner - they probably didn't spend as much time writing, and the whole season (especially MCH's performance) had a "let's just get this over with" feel.

 

[Maximus One]

really guys? lol

Spoiler

dude drives into the hurricane and survives. that was stupid as ****...then turns into wolverine in origins

Hahaha! You literally took the words outta my mouth dude. I said the EXACT same thing

 

[Ken-Kaniff]

http://showtimeallaccess.tumblr.com...-series-finale-of-dexter-ranks-as-its-biggest

 

[drod1985]

You know what I would've been much more satisfied with? A sort of redemptive end for Debra where she was put in a situation that paralleled last season's shipping container with Laguerta. Maybe Quinn could've caught Dex murdering Saxon in Saxon's kill room. Deb walks in on Dexter and Quinn about to kill each other, leading to the same situation we had with Laguerta. But this time, Deb pulls the trigger on Dex.

I don't know. Almost anything would've been better than what we got.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Found this interesting: http://www.eonline.com/news/461558/...lips-reveals-how-he-planned-to-end-the-series

Clyde Phillips, the showrunner for the first four seasons of Dexter, reveals how he would pitched the end of the series.

 

[Teelie]

It was posted earlier in the thread shortly after the finale aired. His idea was interesting but it may have drawn too similar a parallel to St Elsewhere which is still the most controversial ending in television history I think rivaling even the Sopranos.

 

[squeekness]

I'm debating on actually not even buying this season when it's released on blu ray/DVD.

I'll still buy it because I am a completest and have the rest but it was the weakest season for me by far.

 

[Tron Bonne]

It was posted earlier in the thread shortly after the finale aired. His idea was interesting but it may have drawn too similar a parallel to St Elsewhere which is still the most controversial ending in television history I think rivaling even the Sopranos.

Uh? No, it wasn't actually a dream. It's like, Dexter would open his eyes, making us believe it was a dream, but it was actually him in the lethal injection room (presumably after being caught), and seeing all the people he'd killed, kind of like his life flashing by his eyes via the people he'd killed.