Horror Dexter - Part 6

[moviedoors]

I meant him personally pay the price. Other people paying for his actions is not the same, kind of the opposite to me. It seems like no matter how much harm Dexter causes to the people around him he always seems to get away with it.

Exactly. Even at the end, his exile is self imposed, chosen, and, a form of noble martyrdom. It's like the writers of this show believed all that nonsense Vogel was spewing about how perfect Dexter is. They were never truly willing to hold his feet to the fire.

 

[Teelie]

The writers explained this one away already with a handy and convienent small motorboard Dexter had tucked away somewhere on that boat for just this very purpose.

And that's not a joke. They actually said that.

 

[georgec]

Apparently, Jeff Lindsay didn't like the ending either- http://i.imgur.com/0Z85SsY.png

From what I've heard about the books and the 'supernatural' element, let's just be glad they didn't follow Jeff Lindsay's stories after season 1.

 

[Ghostvirus]

The writers explained this one away already with a handy and convienent small motorboard Dexter had tucked away somewhere on that boat for just this very purpose.

And that's not a joke. They actually said that.

jeebus

I am just going to go with the full Dark Passenger thing. Mainly because A psychopath is empty. That is why they are able to kill without remorse. So you take away Dexters feelings. The Dark Passenger would jump to take over. One would think anyway.

 

[hellblazer103]

Apparently, Jeff Lindsay didn't like the ending either- http://i.imgur.com/0Z85SsY.png

i see this and keep picturing this :

 

[Reek]

Apparently, Jeff Lindsay didn't like the ending either- http://i.imgur.com/0Z85SsY.png

'no.'

 

[Ghostvirus]

I was thinking. There are different Categories & strengths.

Since this Hurricane was just a tropical storm, then upgraded to hurricane. It is a good chance it is only a category 1. Which sucks, but is unsurvivable.

With that said. The writers messed up by making Miami look like complete chaos just before the hurricane. Making the Hurricane seem worse than it probably was. People in Miami usually have their sh** together. Unless they are noobs.

So it is quite conceivable that Dexter survived the hurricane.

Also, I think that scene with Batista, Quinn, & Dexter was supposed to show that the Thin Blue Line has protected Dexter all along.

Kind of like the ending of American Psycho. Just like the Rich protect themselves. So do the police.

Dexter, at one point did use the pseudo name Patrick Bateman.

 

[O'Haire]

Been re-watching the earlier seasons for the first time in years to get this last one out of my head. Like a completely different show. Never really noticed the huge difference until now.

 

[Ghostvirus]

Yeah it was darker, yet funnier. Everything hit on just the right note.

 

[georgec]

I'm somewhat relieved the show is over.

 

[Teelie]

So am I. I enjoyed the show for years but this past season I really despised. The final few minutes were all that I'm concerned with.

It reminds me very much like Roseanne in that way. The last season of it was truly awful crap that the writers literally were doing to get the show cancelled because they were contractually locked in. Only the last 5 minutes of it were redeemable as it essentially retconned all the terrible last season into a fantasy ending from Roseanne after Dan's heart attack killed him.

There was no retcon here but Dexter's self-imposed exile to lumberjack in Oregon was a small, redeemable ending to the rest of the season's lackluster story and to Dexter's overall story.

 

[OsGom]

I hated this finale. This show was circling the drain following Trinity. I'm glad it's finally been flushed.

 

[Mr. Dent]

Breaking Bad just made the finale even worse.

 

[Reek]

 

[Project862006]

anyone watch homeland brody's daughter is hooking up with zack hamilton lol

 

[Ramsay Snow]

OK finally watched this. What an awesome finale!

The way Dex went out on his own terms so that the wolrd would remember him as the Bay Harbour Butcher and no one else. The way he killed most of the Miami Metro with the machine gun. Full villain mode, I liked it! Also, when he poisoned Hanna was priceless! When he finally admitted to Deb that all the serial killing and stuff he did was for him and he loved it and made him feel alive, then providing her with GPS coordinates to where the cops will find him, before saying a final farewell. Also, when he got wounded in the Miami Metro shootout and then finally went back to the place that he loved and the place that started it all - the shipping container where his mother died. Finally, him dying there in peace and happiness with all his tools there, and then the cops finally getting there.

This has got to be the one of the best finales I have ever watched - completely redeemed the whole season for me. I wonder when Showtime will ever get another show like this.

 

[Project862006]

^Chew was gonna replace dexter but it fell in development hell

 

[BatLobster]

Breaking Bad just made the finale even worse.

I honestly feel conflicted about the whole thing, haha. Dexter Morgan, a character I openly rooted for the whole time got punished way worse than Walt, a character I openly despised for most of BB's run.

Dexter's ending would be like if BB ended after Ozymandias or Granite Slate, and honestly...part of me kind of wishes it did. I still loved Felina, it was just almost TOO "Hollywood" for me. But still masterful.

 

[Tron Bonne]

So am I. I enjoyed the show for years but this past season I really despised. The final few minutes were all that I'm concerned with.

It reminds me very much like Roseanne in that way. The last season of it was truly awful crap that the writers literally were doing to get the show cancelled because they were contractually locked in. Only the last 5 minutes of it were redeemable as it essentially retconned all the terrible last season into a fantasy ending from Roseanne after Dan's heart attack killed him.

There was no retcon here but Dexter's self-imposed exile to lumberjack in Oregon was a small, redeemable ending to the rest of the season's lackluster story and to Dexter's overall story.

I think any redeeming that did was tainted by the fact that they rectonned a lot of other stuff over the series, though. Like who Jackie was or who the daughter's where actually dating.

 

[Teelie]

That was disappointing to learn that almost the entire series was her writing that book about her family and making some big changes from what we saw to the "reality" of her life. Having her daughters switch their husbands, Jackie being a lesbian and Bev was straight. I can sort of see how Jackie could be a lesbian but that was still a surprise along with how those changes reverberate throughout the series.

Still better than the Dan living, lottery winning, crazy as hell **** they did that final season.

Although I'm glad the proposed reunion never happened. Either. It's even more bizarre.

On December 20, 2009, Barr posted an entry on her website regarding what a possible Roseanne reunion would be like, which includes: DJ's being published, Mark's dying in Iraq; David's leaving Darlene for a woman half his age, Darlene's meeting a woman and having a test tube baby, Becky's working at Walmart, Roseanne and Jackie's opening the first medical marijuana dispensary in Lanford, Arnie's becoming the best friend of the Governor of Illinois and remarrying Nancy, Bev's selling a painting for $10,000, Jerry and the grandsons' forming a music group similar to the Jonas Brothers, Dan's reappearing alive after faking his death, and Bonnie's being arrested for selling crack.

 

[Broseph44]

Dunno if anyone remembers the series finale of mash, I mean it was the most watched. But I was a kid always watched mash with my dad. I'm surprised that finale hasn't been brought up.

 

[Teelie]

MASH had a good finale. It was right for the show to end that way even though it suffered from Alan Alda's political diatribes later in the series.

 

[Project862006]

the shield is still the best series finale imo

 

[Keyser Soze]

I honestly feel conflicted about the whole thing, haha. Dexter Morgan, a character I openly rooted for the whole time got punished way worse than Walt, a character I openly despised for most of BB's run.

Dexter's ending would be like if BB ended after Ozymandias or Granite Slate, and honestly...part of me kind of wishes it did. I still loved Felina, it was just almost TOO "Hollywood" for me. But still masterful.

The thing is, Dexter DIDN'T really get punished. Debra died, yeah, but only after Dexter had already made the decision to leave her behind and have a life without her, and only after she was conveniently able to tell him that he wasn't remotely to blame for anything that caused her death or any of the bad things that screwed her life up (which in truth he totally WAS to blame for) in order to absolve him from having to feel bad about her passing beyond blaming it on Saxon. And he goes into exile, not because he's forced to or because Hannah and Harrison don't want him, but because he makes the decision to do so on his own terms, because everything in that stupid show always had to work out in a way that suits Dexter. Now Harrison gets a new mommy (never mind he has to grow up without a father, because he conveniently told Dexter how he loves Hannah now so it's okay if he has to live with an on-the-run serial killer in a foreign country), and Dexter doesn't have to worry about palming the kid off on Jamie every 5 minutes. Now he can kill with impunity/brood/whatever for as long as he chooses, while still being free to go to Argentina and find his loved ones whenever he feels like it.

And let's not forget the worst part: that he manages to blatantly get away with one more killing at Miami Metro before escaping the city scot-free, never having to answer for his multitude of crimes and never being exposed as a serial killer. Imagine for a moment a Breaking Bad finale where Walter White got away with his money having never been exposed as a meth kingpin. If it ended with Skyler accepting that he did everything for his family, and happily using their meth millions to buy a luxury villa in South America somewhere, and she takes the family down there to wait for Walt. And Walt - fully cured of cancer so he can live indefinitely - manages to conveniently off any bad guys in his way while keeping his secret intact and leaving Hank at the DEA none the wiser, but then decides he'd rather not join his family, but instead do some penance up in Alaska or wherever instead, just to show what an awesome guy he is for feeling bad about the terrible thing he got away with that everyone keeps telling him he shouldn't feel bad about. Would you have felt cheated? Well, yeah...

 

[BatLobster]

The thing is, Dexter DIDN'T really get punished. Debra died, yeah, but only after Dexter had already made the decision to leave her behind and have a life without her, and only after she was conveniently able to tell him that he wasn't remotely to blame for anything that caused her death or any of the bad things that screwed her life up (which in truth he totally WAS to blame for) in order to absolve him from having to feel bad about her passing beyond blaming it on Saxon. And he goes into exile, not because he's forced to or because Hannah and Harrison don't want him, but because he makes the decision to do so on his own terms, because everything in that stupid show always had to work out in a way that suits Dexter. Now Harrison gets a new mommy (never mind he has to grow up without a father, because he conveniently told Dexter how he loves Hannah now so it's okay if he has to live with an on-the-run serial killer in a foreign country), and Dexter doesn't have to worry about palming the kid off on Jamie every 5 minutes. Now he can kill with impunity/brood/whatever for as long as he chooses, while still being free to go to Argentina and find his loved ones whenever he feels like it.

And let's not forget the worst part: that he manages to blatantly get away with one more killing at Miami Metro before escaping the city scot-free, never having to answer for his multitude of crimes and never being exposed as a serial killer. Imagine for a moment a Breaking Bad finale where Walter White got away with his money having never been exposed as a meth kingpin. If it ended with Skyler accepting that he did everything for his family, and happily using their meth millions to buy a luxury villa in South America somewhere, and she takes the family down there to wait for Walt. And Walt - fully cured of cancer so he can live indefinitely - manages to conveniently off any bad guys in his way while keeping his secret intact and leaving Hank at the DEA none the wiser, but then decides he'd rather not join his family, but instead do some penance up in Alaska or wherever instead, just to show what an awesome guy he is for feeling bad about the terrible thing he got away with that everyone keeps telling him he shouldn't feel bad about. Would you have felt cheated? Well, yeah...

Sorry, but I completely disagree with your entire reading of the ending of Dexter. Deb's death forces Dexter's eyes open once and for all to the consequences of his actions. It doesn't matter that Deb forgave him...he didn't forgive himself, he knew that he had screwed up her life (by his own admission) and by the end he accepts full responsibility for her death both figuratively and literally. The ending is absolutely punitive for Dexter, but it's a very deliberate self-punishment. When he was an inch away from getting what he wanted, that's when it all comes crumbling down for him. I honestly think death or being captured by Miami Metro would've been less rough for him than having to live alone bearing the weight of Deb's death on his shoulders for the rest of his days. Completely dead inside.

Trust me, I love Breaking Bad as much as anyone and even though I have some issues with the ending, I absolutely respect the way Gilligan chose to end his story and ultimately I kind of adore the ending in spite of my own personal objections to it. All I can say is that on an emotional level, I felt a sense of sadness and defeat for Dex at the end of "Remember the Monsters?" and I felt a sense of triumph for Walt at the end of "Felina", which I can't help but observe as interesting when all along I've wanted the opposite for the two characters.