Dexter

[Maximus One]

Whoever said after going back and thinking about some things that you can realize how poorly this shows written, I agree. The actors and the storyline ever how convoluted it may get at times, its still better than most shows and movies. I havent watched season 2 in while because somebody (Who is still at large!) stole my season 2 boxset, so Ive only watched it through like once, so yea I forgot about alotta the developement the did for Doakes and totally forgot about that dinner with his family and Deb

 

[Ghostvirus]

Whoever said after going back and thinking about some things that you can realize how poorly this shows written, I agree. The actors and the storyline ever how convoluted it may get at times, its still better than most shows and movies. I havent watched season 2 in while because somebody (Who is still at large!) stole my season 2 boxset, so Ive only watched it through like once, so yea I forgot about alotta the developement the did for Doakes and totally forgot about that dinner with his family and Deb

Sounds like somebody needs to go on the table.

 

[Maximus One]

Oh yea! Somebody really needs to! As does the mouthbreathing sucktard that took my LOST season 4 boxset!

 

[Maximus One]

So was that Johnny Lee Miller playing the motivational speaker that Boyd was listening to? I brought it up a few pages back but nobody had any input. If Zero-Cool has been reduced to being on off screen character Ima be pissed!

 

[Ghostvirus]

Oh yea! Somebody really needs to! As does the mouthbreathing sucktard that took my LOST season 4 boxset!

Just show up at his house drunk with a full Jack beard at like 3 in the morning scream in his lawn. "I want it back Kate!"

So was that Johnny Lee Miller playing the motivational speaker that Boyd was listening to? I brought it up a few pages back but nobody had any input. If Zero-Cool has been reduced to being on off screen character Ima be pissed!

I seriously doubt that. I don't think Johnny would let himself be reduced that low. He was just in TV show that did moderately well.

I was trying to think of way they would bring him into the picture. I don't really see a way at the moment. Unless Johnny character is in some way connected to that kid more personally & he starts sniffing around. I don't know. But I am sure he will be more dominant than just that.

That would seem like a waste of money to pay a actor of that caliber to just do voice over work that you could have paid someone else a whole lot less.

Edit: Actually it just occured to me that there is a small possibility that since the dude thought he was helping people the Millers character is orchestrating like some sort massive cleansing.

Or Styles's character is like a sister, wife, etc of Millers's character.

 

[Ghostvirus]

Also do you all think that Astor in deep way has know what Dexter is?

What she said last week about how she hoped things would get better, but they didn't struck me as odd. It was like she was saying that she had seen the darkness in Dexter, but hoped that, that would protect them. Not hurt them. & now she realises she was wrong. What do you all think?

& I also I think her acting has been pretty darn good considering all the talent around her that she has to step up to. She could be a break out in the next 10 years.

 

[RetroNaz]

I just assumed she meant that things would be better than a depressed mother and an abusive father.

 

[Thundarr]

Whoever said after going back and thinking about some things that you can realize how poorly this shows written, I agree. The actors and the storyline ever how convoluted it may get at times, its still better than most shows and movies. I havent watched season 2 in while because somebody (Who is still at large!) stole my season 2 boxset, so Ive only watched it through like once, so yea I forgot about alotta the developement the did for Doakes and totally forgot about that dinner with his family and Deb

That scene's from Season One actually.

 

[Thundarr]

The problem with Quinn teaming with Dexter. I could see Quinn turn into Miguel. He wouldn't have the self control to not want to kill every single person that gets set free. Eventually Dexter would have to put him down IMO.

I suppose it would depend on how far Quinn takes it. Dexter's problem with Miguel wasn't that he shared Dexter's sense of Justice. His problem was that Miguel killed a defense attorney just for doing her job "too well". If Quinn were to find out about Dexter's secret and they were to become allies, and eventually friends, and Quinn kept his choice of victims limited to the criminal element and not their lawyers, then the team up might work.

Only question is, "How will Quinn & Dexter overcome their animosity for each other?"

 

[Neverless]

Well Quinns biggest thing about dexter started when dexter had dirt on him. So his goal turned into trying to find dirt ond exter to level the playing field and it has just became much more has he's grown more and more suspicious of dexter.

I do agree though that if Quinn was to find out dexter killed bad guys, I don't think Quinn would do anything about it, Quinn has his own set of the way rules and justice should be that I think he may agree with dexter, but who knows. Its still possible he'd use it againstd exter and be like "now I have something on you"

 

[CrypticOne]

Yeah, I think if Quinn found out what Dexter does, he wouldn't turn him in. (Hopefully)

I'd hate to see Dexter kill Quinn.

 

[Ghostvirus]

I suppose it would depend on how far Quinn takes it. Dexter's problem with Miguel wasn't that he shared Dexter's sense of Justice. His problem was that Miguel killed a defense attorney just for doing her job "too well". If Quinn were to find out about Dexter's secret and they were to become allies, and eventually friends, and Quinn kept his choice of victims limited to the criminal element and not their lawyers, then the team up might work.

Only question is, "How will Quinn & Dexter overcome their animosity for each other?"

I was speaking from more of self-control issue. The whole reason Miquel did what he did, was because he had no self-control.

Quinn by stealling money from crime scenes obviously does not possess that much self-control.

You give Quinn a toy like Dexter. Where he can send him out there to dispatch the guilty. I could easily see him start to try & exploit that power.

Well Quinns biggest thing about dexter started when dexter had dirt on him. So his goal turned into trying to find dirt ond exter to level the playing field and it has just became much more has he's grown more and more suspicious of dexter.

I do agree though that if Quinn was to find out dexter killed bad guys, I don't think Quinn would do anything about it, Quinn has his own set of the way rules and justice should be that I think he may agree with dexter, but who knows. Its still possible he'd use it againstd exter and be like "now I have something on you"

I don't think Quinn will say that. Because as soon as he says that. Dexter immediately looks at him a liability. He would either lock him up Doakes style, or just dispatch him.

The only thing that kept Dexter from killing Doakes originally was that he hadn't killed an innocent. He has basically killed 2 now. I am going to count the guy in the bathroom just because even though he is clearly not a complete innocent. He still may not fit the code.

Dexter now knows he can cross that line, & not lose control. So he might be more willing by the end of this season to smoke those in his way.

The best thing Quinn can do is try & buddy up.

 

[Sloth7d]

Hey guys. Just started watching this show, yeah I'm late to the party, but Damn. Damn. Damn why?! Just finished season 2.

Spoiler

They killed off Lila!!! Why?! She was my favorite character of the series! Or maybe I should be asking why the author of the book series killed her off; this show is adapted from a book series right? There was no need. She could have been put on the side lines as a character. Top shelfed and waiting there until a possible return later to cause some turmoil in Dexter's life again. But the author had Dexter kill her after she saved his ass. Oh and the reason being she was wrong for killing an innocent (yeah right, Doak is just lucky Internal Affairs got their toes stepped on before Angel had the nerve to rat him) man who Dexter was going to frame and have put on death row anyway? She's the bad one in the end? Hypocrite much?/ rant

That said this is an awesome tv series. Reminds me of Death Note a bit. Wish someone had recommended it to me sooner. Just wish season 2 didn't play out the way it did. Made me not like Deborah. Man was her hypocritical ass getting irritating with her constant judgemental attitude of Dexter's love life. And I definitly think of Dexter as a bad guy now thanks to his [BLACKOUT]framing of Doaks and killing Lila.[/BLACKOUT] It's going to be weird going into season 3 hoping that someone finally brings him down.

 

[Ghostvirus]

Why would you consider Dexter a bad guy for Killing Lila? I know you like her. Heck I did to. She was uber, uber, uber....UBER hot!

But she was a complete but bag that tried to burn Ritas kids & Dexter Alive.

 

[Sloth7d]

Why would you consider Dexter a bad guy for Killing Lila? I know you like her. Heck I did to. She was uber, uber, uber....UBER hot!

But she was a complete but bag that tried to burn Ritas kids & Dexter Alive.

Not her looks. She was an awesome character.

It's possible she knew the kids could get out through the window. After all, the intent of the children was just to lure in Dexter, and she must have considered all escape routes for him. She must have known the window was big enough for the two little witnesses to make it out of, yet she didn't try to seal it off.

Besides that point, Dexter was going to kill her for killing Doaks before that anyway. Which is hypocritical beyond all other points seeing as he was going to put Doaks on death row with phony evidence. However, in addition to that, Doaks wasn't exactly an innocent person anyway, and he's only lucky Batista's statement wasn't used against him in the end.

 

[Ghostvirus]

It has been a while. But I am pretty sure that Dexter was on the verge of turning himself in when Lila killed Doakes. Dexter spent most of the season in a serious struggle between surviving & doing what is right. Lila immediately decided to kill Doakes. She is much more dangerous.

As for the kids. If that was the case she should have broken the window so that they would see it, & escape. It was pretty clear to me she intended everyone to die.

 

[Sloth7d]

It has been a while. But I am pretty sure that Dexter was on the verge of turning himself in when Lila killed Doakes. Dexter spent most of the season in a serious struggle between surviving & doing what is right.

Nope. He had changed his mind, and was actually racing to set Doaks loose from his cage before the Feds could find him. He actually considered the explosion a miracle until he found out it was Lila behind it. I can't think of anything that reeks of more hypocricy than that.

Lila immediately decided to kill Doakes. She is much more dangerous.

She didn't immediately decide to do him in. It wasn't until she realized it was Dexter who was the one who put him there and that killing him would help Dexter. It was the first time she even killed. I can't see how that's anymore more dangerous than Dexter killing Doaks to save himself.

As for the kids. If that was the case she should have broken the window so that they would see it, & escape. It was pretty clear to me she intended everyone to die.

It's the other way around. If she intended everyone to die, ignoring an obvious exit like that is a fundamental flaw to her plan. The kids weren't the target. Only Dexter was.

 

[Ghostvirus]

I will have to take your word for it. Because it has been a long time since I have sat down & watched that season.

 

[Sloth7d]

I will have to take your word for it. Because it has been a long time since I have sat down & watched that season.

Got netflix?

 

[Sloth7d]

Actually, here ya go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_British_Invasion_(Dexter)

Though I know wiki isn't worth much for credibility.

 

[Neverless]

I hated Lila, I thought most people did. One of the worst things to happen to this show IMO.

 

[alexdunn]

Yeah I was pretty glad to see her go. She was bats**t crazy man! A damned pyromaniac who tried to killed Rita's kids. It doesn't really matter if they could have escaped, she still kidnapped them and almost set em on fire!

 

[Ghostvirus]

Got netflix?

I got them on DVD. I just haven't gotten around to watching them in a while.

I was racking my brain trying to figure out how Dexter was going to get out of Styles escaping & reaching that car full of dudes first. Then I realised the car full of dudes will probably attempt to rape her. & Dexter will once again save her.

 

[RetroNaz]

The problem I have with Quinn becoming friends with Dexter, is that if the show does allow that (for an extended period of time, not for a few days/weeks like Miguel or Lila) then it will start to train the audience that what Dexter is doing is right.

That to me, will take away some of the sting from the show. We need to feel conflicted in wondering whether or not Dexter is doing a good or bad thing. The answer is pretty obvious to us normal people.

Quinn is crooked, but he's still a normal guy. He hasn't suffered some psychological altering moment in his life that makes him suddenly see more black than white. It would be one of those lame twists that suddenly the guy that's been up Dexter's ass for the majority of his time on the show sees the light and they become buddies.

The theme of the show (that doesn't beat us with a stick, but it's there) is that anyone who gets close to Dexter suffers. It's like a karma, or punishment to Dexter. Brian didn't have a code and tried to kill Deb, Doakes found out and was blown away. Lila became obsessed. Miguel tried to manipulate Dexter. Rita was married to him. The kids lives were changed also. Deb has suffered her whole life because of Dexter.

My point is, it wouldn't fit in the shows established thread to have Quinn become good buddies with Dexter and there not be a consequence.

 

[wiegeabo]

Yeah I was pretty glad to see her go. She was bats**t crazy man! A damned pyromaniac who tried to killed Rita's kids. It doesn't really matter if they could have escaped, she still kidnapped them and almost set em on fire!

This. The writers did a good job of making her interesting when we're introduced to her, and then making a villain you can't wait for Dexter to bring down.

Him surprising her on the ship was very satisfying.