Dexter

[TheCorpulent1]

So is Lumen gonna be, like, Dexter's sidekick now? I have to say, I'm kind of interested in seeing what she meant about others being involved in Boyd's thing...

 

[RetroNaz]

Did you see the preview to next week Corp?

Might give you a little hint at where they are going with her...

 

[StrainedEyes]

So is Lumen gonna be, like, Dexter's sidekick now? I have to say, I'm kind of interested in seeing what she meant about others being involved in Boyd's thing...

At one point she asked Dexter if he was going to sell her. That might be a hint at what's really going on.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh yeah, that should've rung a bell. No, Retro, I didn't see the preview. I'm gonna see if it's on YouTube or something...

 

[RetroNaz]

Oh yeah, that should've rung a bell. No, Retro, I didn't see the preview. I'm gonna see if it's on YouTube or something...

You're in for a treat.

Although I do worry...they are treading some awfully familiar ground...

 

[jacobed]

Yeah right now they're going on the fine line of mixing elements of season 2 and 3 into this one but I think when it is all said and done it will be quite different from the other seasons.

 

[DIRECTOR]

Guys, I had a weird dream about Dexter last night.

The dream was in First Person view, similar to watching a show, so my eyes was the camera. The dream started off with an exterior of a room the camera pans to a window, I don't see through the window, but I do hear a woman screaming...... The dream continues with non relating to Dexter at all...... but at the end of the dream, the camera comes back to the window and I see what is through the window. I see this woman on a table laying on her back. Dexter is between this woman's leg and he is hacking off pieces of her leg with a machete, while she is alive.........

THAN I WOKE UP..........

Now, I just had a realization. I mean, I like Dexter, and the character, but now, I'm realizing that even though Dexter is killing these bad people, he is chopping them into little pieces. What's messed up is that he did this to some people that were innocent. Like from Season 4, that photographer......... that's messed up.

I think I had the dream because I watched that episode from Season 2, where Dexter kills the copycat fan of the "Bay Harbor Butcher".

So, there were some people that maybe deserves Dexter's knife, but all I'm saying that there were some people that were less deserving of Dexter's knife, and that makes Dexter not a likable character sometimes.

 

[RetroNaz]

Well, Dexter is a guy that talks to his dead father. The very father that taught him a code to make sure that he murders bad people only. He lives a life of lies and deceit during the day and stalks his prey, needles them, spends hours preparing a kill room with plastics, printing out photos of people they have affected or murdered and then allows them to wake up at night.

He says a few things to his victim, sometimes he may even come to a small realisation that he can apply to his own life and as a thank you he stabs them right in the chest. Spends another few hours chopping them up, wrapping them in plastic bags, going out on his fishing boat and dumping the body parts.

Yep, our boy Dexter is seriously ****ed up.

But then...what does that make us for cheering him on and rooting for him each episode?

Love this show

 

[Ghostvirus]

One of the main points of Watchmen is that in real life a superhero would be mentally unstable to do what they do.

Dexter is one of these mentally unstable people. I still consider him a hero.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, Dexter is a guy that talks to his dead father. The very father that taught him a code to make sure that he murders bad people only. He lives a life of lies and deceit during the day and stalks his prey, needles them, spends hours preparing a kill room with plastics, printing out photos of people they have affected or murdered and then allows them to wake up at night.

He says a few things to his victim, sometimes he may even come to a small realisation that he can apply to his own life and as a thank you he stabs them right in the chest. Spends another few hours chopping them up, wrapping them in plastic bags, going out on his fishing boat and dumping the body parts.

Yep, our boy Dexter is seriously ****ed up.

But then...what does that make us for cheering him on and rooting for him each episode?

Love this show

When he was setting up Boyd's kill room, it occurred to me that Dexter must be pretty handy with a printer. I mean, he had big blown-up images mounted nicely on foam board of the dead women in Boyd's barrels--the kind of thing I think most of us would go to a copy place like Kinko's for, only Dexter obviously can't do that. That was the main thing I noticed in that scene.

... I think I may be a bit desensitized.

 

[RogueDK]

The more I go over the season so far. I am disturbed at how dangerously close to season 2 this season is treading.


Quinn. Although smarter has many of the same scenes that Doakes had. The whole sneaking up on Dexter when he was using the computer thing. Getting suspended, etc..

Quinn is Doakes-lite. But yeah, that same pattern is happening again.

At least when Doakes was suspicious of Dex, it was hilarious and awesome at the same time.

"I got my eye on you, muthaf***a!"

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's not really surprising that they're mining that plot point so often. They did it with Trinity last season as well. But how many of us were sitting there thinking, "Man, Doakes already figured out Dexter's a killer in season 2," when Trinity strolled into the precinct office and said, "Hello, Dexter Morgan"? Not a one of us, I'd bet. People figuring out the truth about Dexter is kind of a staple of the show. We're now in the fifth season of the show; there wouldn't be much drama if Dex did his killing perfectly and no one ever suspected anything about him.

 

[RogueDK]

It's not really surprising that they're mining that plot point so often. They did it with Trinity last season as well. But how many of us were sitting there thinking, "Man, Doakes already figured out Dexter's a killer in season 2," when Trinity strolled into the precinct office and said, "Hello, Dexter Morgan"? Not a one of us, I'd bet. People figuring out the truth about Dexter is kind of a staple of the show. We're now in the fifth season of the show; there wouldn't be much drama if Dex did his killing perfectly and no one ever suspected anything about him.

Dexter being found out every season by someone can also have the potential of getting stale too. It goes both ways. That's the risk you run with shows like this. What makes Dexter work as a series is that the writing is very character-driven.

The writers would have to get very creative in future seasons to keep things spicy.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

She tried killing the kids.

I doubt her master plan was to have them survive by them escaping. She tried killing the kids, and that's what put her over the top (for me, atleast) for her to Dexter's prey.

If I remember correctly, Dexter was already setting things up for his own arrest. He set things up for Debra to control his estate and things like that, and imagined that he could maybe be at peace in a jail cell.

Dexter is a serial killer, in the end, though. So Lila's actions towards Doakes and putting her in Dexter's crosshairs was just her filling out the needed requirement to abide by Harry's rules.

Dexter would have loved it, loved it, if Paul had fit the bill, for example. Had he dropped one body, he would have been killed immediately. Dexter, himself, doesn't hold himself on some kind of moral high ground or anything.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Dexter being found out every season by someone can also have the potential of getting stale too. It goes both ways. That's the risk you run with shows like this. What makes Dexter work as a series is that the writing is very character-driven.

The writers would have to get very creative in future seasons to keep things spicy.

True, but I don't think we're at that point yet. I'm personally pretty interested in seeing what they do with the Quinn storyline. He's a very different character from Doakes, after all, and I suspect he won't react in quite the same way. We can already see that to some extent with his refusal to allow anyone else to show Jonah the picture of Dex. Doakes had no problem making his suspicions of Dexter public, and if he had as solid a lead as Quinn has now, I bet he'd have happily given the FBI agent the picture of Dex to confirm his suspicions.

 

[RogueDK]

True, but I don't think we're at that point yet. I'm personally pretty interested in seeing what they do with the Quinn storyline. He's a very different character from Doakes, after all, and I suspect he won't react in quite the same way. We can already see that to some extent with his refusal to allow anyone else to show Jonah the picture of Dex. Doakes had no problem making his suspicions of Dexter public, and if he had as solid a lead as Quinn has now, I bet he'd have happily given the FBI agent the picture of Dex to confirm his suspicions.

I think that Quinn will get another chance to interrogate Trinity's son but the kid's going to lie that Kyle and Dex are one and the same for the simple fact that Dexter did his family a favor for removing the cancer that was his dad from their lives...
Quinn's persistence will either get him transferred or fired from the force. Killing him off would be too much like Doakes.

Just speculation on my part.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Btw...loved the last episode.

I'm starting to warm up to Quinn, which is shocking me. I'm think he's appearing more human, and less like a walking assclown this season. I think his relationship with Debra is what might keep Quinn from turning in Dexter, if he gets to the bottom of it. I could see him keeping the secret to protect Debra, if he falls in love with her.

I think the Batista-LaGuerta storyline finally got interesting to me, because the tension between them could end up being about her past and not they're future (ie: the money thing, which on Angel's part was ****ing stupid...). I dunno, it could make for an interesting subplot with everything else going on.

And Dexter hunting down a possible team of serial killers...sounds pretty cool to me. I'm wondering if there's now an opening to link Boyd, and the people he was with, and the Santa Muerte deaths...

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

I think that Quinn will get another chance to interrogate Trinity's son but the kid's going to lie that Kyle and Dex are one and the same for the simple fact that Dexter did his family a favor for removing the cancer that was his dad from their lives...
Quinn's persistence will either get him transferred or fired from the force. Killing him off would be too much like Doakes.

Just speculation on my part.

i was thinking the same thing. i have a feeling that Arthur's family may cover for Dexter/Kyle

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

True, but I don't think we're at that point yet. I'm personally pretty interested in seeing what they do with the Quinn storyline. He's a very different character from Doakes, after all, and I suspect he won't react in quite the same way. We can already see that to some extent with his refusal to allow anyone else to show Jonah the picture of Dex. Doakes had no problem making his suspicions of Dexter public, and if he had as solid a lead as Quinn has now, I bet he'd have happily given the FBI agent the picture of Dex to confirm his suspicions.

Good point. They are different. Daokes, for example, probably would have suprised Dexter with a visit after using Harrison to distract everyone. I think it might be fair to say that Doakes would have given the photo to his FBI contact. Doakes was a hothead, and probably would have thought "**** it, mother****er." Quinn wants to play it close to the chest. He failed...but he tried.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I think that Quinn will get another chance to interrogate Trinity's son but the kid's going to lie that Kyle and Dex are one and the same for the simple fact that Dexter did his family a favor for removing the cancer that was his dad from their lives...
Quinn's persistence will either get him transferred or fired from the force. Killing him off would be too much like Doakes.

Just speculation on my part.

I'm still nursing the pet theory that Quinn may learn the truth about Dexter but be okay with it when he learns the specifics. Right now, he's pursuing Dex so doggedly because he thinks Dexter killed Rita. Once he learns that Trinity did it and Dexter was only trying to get closer to Trinity to kill him, I think Quinn's morally questionable side might permit him to look the other way and keep Dexter's secret.

Granted, that's basically Miguel all over again rather than Doakes, but it could be different enough if Quinn didn't go bats*** insane after learning the truth and actually became something of an ally to Dexter.

 

[RogueDK]

I'm still nursing the pet theory that Quinn may learn the truth about Dexter but be okay with it when he learns the specifics. Right now, he's pursuing Dex so doggedly because he thinks Dexter killed Rita. Once he learns that Trinity did it and Dexter was only trying to get closer to Trinity to kill him, I think Quinn's morally questionable side might permit him to look the other way and keep Dexter's secret.

Granted, that's basically Miguel all over again rather than Doakes, but it could be different enough if Quinn didn't go bats*** insane after learning the truth and actually became something of an ally to Dexter.

Good points, Corp but Miguel had a seducing nature to himself that Quinn just doesn't possess.

I think that Quinn looks at Dexter with the same weird speculation that Doakes did although spawned, in this case, perhaps from when Dex caught him taking the evidence money in the last season.
Quinn at first was looking for an opportunity to get something on Dex to even the playing field. With Rita's death now, he's fully invested in bringing a probable threat down.
You have to realize that Quinn has no reassurance from Dex that he won't drop a dime on him for stealing evidence. Would you take Dexter at his word with something like that? Too damaging.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

True. There are a lot of ways it could go. That's kind of why I'm so interested in it. Doakes was more of a straightforward white knight. He had a hell of a temper, granted, but he was very by-the-books and honest. There was never any way he could potentially be okay with Dexter murdering people, good, bad, or otherwise. Quinn, not so much.

 

[RogueDK]

Another thing that's a staple of this show that brings on LOLs for me is that Deb is going to give "it" up to some guy every season. Her leg does not discriminate: Old, weird, black, white, etc..

I'm so hoping for an intense lesbian love scene with the hot Hispanic cop introduced this season. How awesome would that be?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Haha, I wouldn't object. Deb hasn't shown any lesbian tendencies so far, though, so you might not want to get your hopes up.

 

[Golgo-13]

I wouldn't mind seeing Deb and that hot Latina mami cop she's teamed up with, getting it on this season!