🇺🇸 Discussion: General Election 2024, 🥥 VS 🍊

[Mani-Man]

‘They blew it’: Democrats lost 22,000 votes in Michigan’s heavily Arab American cities

Trump’s courting of Arab American voters and the Biden-Harris Gaza policy turned votes away from the Democrat

www.theguardian.com

Part of me gets that, but did people really honestly not think farther ahead?
Trump literally has openly talked about how he supports the man who commits a genocide...and people thought really his policies on Gaza would be safer than Harris?

I get that Harris couldnt go against Biden since she is Vice President and all, but she has projected more than once that she would want to be harder on Israel etc.

 

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[blueharvest]

A very simple prescription for Democrats: Just wait | Semafor

Why Kamala Harris lost is going to take time to parse — and may have less to do with issues voters decide the next election on.

www.semafor.com

 

[blueharvest]

‘Was it even a winnable cycle?’ John Fetterman reckons with red Pennsylvania | Semafor

The populist Democrat discusses Elon Musk, Gaza, trans rights, and whether Joe Biden would have won.

www.semafor.com

 

[blueharvest]

What to Know About the Millions of So-Called 'Missing Votes' in 2024 US Election

Some Republicans claimed vote tallies proved the 2020 election was stolen. Some Democrats claimed they proved the 2024 election was stolen.

www.snopes.com

 

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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republicans-brink-clinching-us-house-control-2024-11-09/

 

[blueharvest]

Six big lies that won the election: How Donald Trump gaslit America

It isn't just that Trump told lies. He wove a set of interlocking false narratives — and the media helped

www.salon.com

 

[blueharvest]

"Consequences are severe": Trump's lack of ethics pledge delays transition process

The president-elect is locked out of critical transition meetings due to his failure to file an ethics pledge

www.salon.com

 

[blueharvest]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republicans-brink-clinching-us-house-control-2024-11-09/

It'll be a repeat of 2016, I fear. Only a lot worse this time.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Chesterfield]

Couldn't even manage her campaign budget and people believed she could sort out the economy?

Kamala Harris' Campaign struggles with $20 million debt? Unable to pay staff and vendors?

As the 2024 presidential election progresses, Vice President Kamala Harris' campaign is facing considerable financial difficulties.

m.economictimes.com

 

[Herofan]

You are correct. Kamala was scared of turning off Jewish voters, but I doubt upsetting Bibi supporters by supporting the Palestinian cause would have cost her any electoral votes and could have picked up a few.

A lot more than just Netanyahu and his devotees are supporting the war both in Israel and in US, American Jews are closely divided on whether the war is acceptable or not but probably all who think it is acceptable and even many who think it is unacceptable would be very alienated if she had gone all the way to It's genocide/It's Crimes Against Humanity.

 

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[blueharvest]

‘I blame the party’: recriminations abound among Democrats – including in Scranton

Harris won Biden’s home county in Pennsylvania by less than 1%, a steep drop from Biden’s and Obama’s wins

www.theguardian.com

 

[squeekness]

He's made too much money off of fear to stop doing it now.

 

[squeekness]

It'll be a repeat of 2016, I fear. Only a lot worse this time.

I'm hoping they if they break too much too quickly they will get creamed in the mid terms. I've now spoken to two people who might lose their jobs. If enough of the reality hits could be a blue wave in two years.

 

[squeekness]

Wow....just wow. Hope they enjoy the ride they just bought.

 

[blueharvest]

'They Blame the People That They Let Down'

A longtime DNC member unloads on his party after watching it fumble another election to Trump.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[blueharvest]

‘The movement is not over’: leaders of Uncommitted look ahead at organizing during Trump term

While disappointed, leaders say Democratic party stuck with ‘status quo’ instead of listening to voter concerns

www.theguardian.com

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

latest vote count updates:

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[MagnarTheGreat]

exit polls: no college | non-college graduate
2024 (57% electorate share): Trump 56% (R+14)
2020 (59%): Trump 50% (R+2)
2016 (50%): Trump 51% (R+7)
2012 (53%): Obama 51% (D+4)

So Democrats are increasingly falling behind with non-college graduate voters, especially non-white non-college or non-white non-college graduate voters. And they make up the majority of all voters.

 

[blueharvest]