Discussion: Legalizing Marijuana

[moraldeficiency]

But everything fun is against the law. Murder is against the law. Lighting midgets on fire and sending them into wood furniture stores is against the law. If I only did what was strictly legal what the hell would I do on the weekends?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

How could you go to jail for a long time just for possession? More incredibly stupid American laws?

 

[Lasirius]

Everything in excess is harmful, moderation is the key. By that logic then every food, drink, drug or any other product should be illegal.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Well, yea, you're right.

By legalizing weed I don't think anyone is gonna go...

"WOW weeds legal! Let's go buy a 9 bar and smoke the whole lot in a day!"

 

[Lasirius]

Well, yea, you're right.

By legalizing weed I don't think anyone is gonna go...

"WOW weeds legal! Let's go buy a 9 bar and smoke the whole lot in a day!"

Exactly, but first and foremost people need to be informed before someone does something stupid and spoil the fun for all of us.

 

[Master Chief]

Plus there'll be age ID check for sure, and it would be nice to stock up on munchies and ask for 2 grams as you're paying. :heart:

 

[Majic Walrus]

How could you go to jail for a long time just for possession? More incredibly stupid American laws?

Depends on the amount that you have and the location of the arrest. For instance if you get caught with an ounce of weed in a school zone, you're looking and some actual time. If you're caught driving under the influence of a controlled substance during a school zone and you have more than an ounce you could get a Illicit DUI and Possession with intent to distribute. I'm not sure what the laws in each individual state are though, it could be more or less depending on where you are.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Ah ok. I was think more along the lines of 8ths and quarters.

If you're walking around with an ounce on ya then well, you're an idiot. There's no need to have an ounce on ya.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Ah ok. I was think more along the lines of 8ths and quarters.

If you're walking around with an ounce on ya then well, you're an idiot. There's no need to have an ounce on ya.

Yeah. 8ths and quarters aren't too risky, but still most people buy in bulk. If you're coming home from your contacts house through a school zone... you're screwed.

 

[omid17]

like the poll results

 

[LiveWire777]

That would make you a complete tool, congrats

thank you

 

[Kelly]

The main reason that I want pot to be legalized is because of crime prevention. Too many people go to jail for minor offenses related to marijuana abuses and end up getting out of jail and move on to harder and harder offenses. The only reason that marijuana is a gateway drug is because it's a gateway to prison.

Legal marijuana would not be dangerous at all. At the very worst it becomes a taxable luxury like cigarettes helps make the government money. At the worst it remains a black market commodity and the number of people in jail for pot problems goes down. We have more room in prisons for dangerous criminals and then when drunk drivers get they actually go to jail instead of being released because the jail is "full up".

I agree with most of this.....but it has to be regulated, and hopefully better than alcohol has been. Hopefully we have learned from that. To say that marijuana is not dangerous at all, is like saying alcohol is not dangerous at all. It does impair you to a certain extent, but if used in a smart way, it can be as enjoyable as a beer on the weekends with friends. Used stupidly, it can kill in the same way that too much beer on the weekends can kill.

As far as the overcrowding of jails because of this.....hell yeah, get those people outta there before they learn how to be real criminals.

 

[omid17]

I agree with most of this.....but it has to be regulated, and hopefully better than alcohol has been. Hopefully we have learned from that. To say that marijuana is not dangerous at all, is like saying alcohol is not dangerous at all. It does impair you to a certain extent, but if used in a smart way, it can be as enjoyable as a beer on the weekends with friends. Used stupidly, it can kill in the same way that too much beer on the weekends can kill.

As far as the overcrowding of jails because of this.....hell yeah, get those people outta there before they learn how to be real criminals.

 

[Carcharodon]

Thank you for saying this.
I happen to agree with a lot of what Ferret is saying, actually.
His views are pretty straightforward. He isnt claiming to be perfect, but is saying that if you are doing something that has a good chance of altering your mind/perception and/or sending you to jail and/or leading to you doing something you regret...its not very smart.

That's fine. The difference is that you don't come off as a total *****e. It makes respecting your opinion that much easier.

 

[SuperFerret]

It's more fun to come off as a *****e. I still think it's stupid regardless.

 

[SuperFerret]

Isn't that pretty much the defination of making the right or at least better choices?

That depends on what you consider success is.

 

[Master Chief]

People who get thrown in jail for marijuana are usually doing more than that so...

Anyhoo funny story. I was asked to pick up 2 grams. I got it. They were too drunk to meet up with me. LOL. Fat sack for moi. :heart:

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Heyyoo!!

 

[Kelly]

How could you go to jail for a long time just for possession? More incredibly stupid American laws?

You don't necessarily go to jail for a long time for just possession, usually when that happens its after the 3 strikes law that some states have.

Federal sentencing guidelines take into account not only the amount of marijuana but also past convictions. Not all marijuana convictions require jail time under federal sentencing guidelines, but all are eligible for imprisonment. If convicted and sentenced to jail, a minimum of 85% of that sentence must be served. The higher the marijuana amount, the more likely one is to be sentenced to jail time, as opposed to probation or alternative sentencing. Low-level offenses, even with multiple prior convictions, may end up with probation for the entire sentence of one to 12 months, and no jail time required. Possession of over 1 kg of marijuana with no prior convictions carries a sentence of 6 to 12 months with a possibility of probation and alternative sentencing. Over 2.5 kg with no criminal record carries a sentence of at least 6 months in jail; with multiple prior convictions, a sentence might be up to two years to three years in jail with no chance for probation.

 

[Thirdworld]

The question is why does the government think they have the right to tell us what we can or can't put into our own bodies.

 

[Kelly]

I think in the case of this, other drugs, alcohol, etc.....its not just about us.......

Driving while under the influence is just stupid, and unfortunately some cannot make the right decision for themselves....

 

[Ace of Knaves]

You don't necessarily go to jail for a long time for just possession, usually when that happens its after the 3 strikes law that some states have.

Federal sentencing guidelines take into account not only the amount of marijuana but also past convictions. Not all marijuana convictions require jail time under federal sentencing guidelines, but all are eligible for imprisonment. If convicted and sentenced to jail, a minimum of 85% of that sentence must be served. The higher the marijuana amount, the more likely one is to be sentenced to jail time, as opposed to probation or alternative sentencing. Low-level offenses, even with multiple prior convictions, may end up with probation for the entire sentence of one to 12 months, and no jail time required. Possession of over 1 kg of marijuana with no prior convictions carries a sentence of 6 to 12 months with a possibility of probation and alternative sentencing. Over 2.5 kg with no criminal record carries a sentence of at least 6 months in jail; with multiple prior convictions, a sentence might be up to two years to three years in jail with no chance for probation.

OK cool. That makes sense then.

I just think it would be ridiculous for someone going to jail for having like, an 8th on then or something.

 

[Thirdworld]

Driving under the influence wasn't really the question though and should certainly be illegal because when you drive OTHER people lives are at stake. If I'm walking down the street smoking a joint or carrying a bag who is at danger?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Well yea if it gets legalized it will still be illegal to drive under the influence.

But you're right, a stoner is no harm to anyone.

 

[Kelly]

Depends.....

Are you just carrying it, or do you have it for sell?

Because even cigarettes sold in that manner is illegal....

Walking down the street smoking a joint, really isn't much of a debate with many. The real debate takes place with motive, age, location, tax, etc.

Walking down the street, is the easy debate.