Disney in talks to buy Fox: X-Men Homecoming? - Part 3

[Boom]

He lost me at "We deserve it."

 

[JP]

http://deadline.com/2017/12/disney-fox-antitrust-concerns-congressional-hearings-request-1202228114/

 

[TheVileOne]

He lost me at "We deserve it."

Why do we need a New Mutants trilogy?

http://deadline.com/2017/12/disney-fox-antitrust-concerns-congressional-hearings-request-1202228114/

Just a reason why not everyone wants to uncork the champagne just yet.

 

[Aztec]

http://deadline.com/2017/12/disney-fox-antitrust-concerns-congressional-hearings-request-1202228114/

Everyone knew this was coming. They are going to look at the sports packages, not individual IPs.

 

[psylockolussus]

The congress can drop the sports networks from this deal along with Fx, Blue Sky and Nat Geo as well. But the film rights to X-Men and Fantastic Four should be sold to Disney.

 

[JP]

That's not how it works, though.

 

[Spiderine]

We knew the government was going to step in and make amendments. Which is why it will take a year or so to review this whole deal.

 

[TheVileOne]

We knew the government was going to step in and make amendments. Which is why it will take a year or so to review this whole deal.

Which is why we aren't going to see anything happen with the characters until 2019 at the earliest.

 

[Aztec]

We knew the government was going to step in and make amendments. Which is why it will take a year or so to review this whole deal.

Exactly. And believe me Disney and Fox knew it too. They have plans B, C, & D built in for just such an occasion.

 

[Zarex]

That's not how it works, though.

That's exactly how it works. The DOJ would not have sued to block the
Time Warner purchase if AT&T had spun off Direct TV or the Turner Networks.

 

[psylockolussus]

The government or whoever is reviewing this would order Fox/TWDC some changes in the deal if they found out something that didn't like, if Disney doesn't agree, the deal is off. I think that was the case with Att/Wb - ATT didn't want to agree with the court's orders and backed out. I don't see Fox backing out and Disney wouldn't back out without getting nothing in return and only to pay $2.5 billion. It ruins Murdoch's future plan and Disney would be paying the fine for nothing.

 

[marcvader]

I thought the sports network along with the news weren’t part of the deal.

 

[psylockolussus]

I thought the sports network along with the news weren’t part of the deal.

Fox Sports Networks are included while Fox Sports isn't. It confused me also as they both share the same name, but apparently they are separated.

 

[Zarex]

I thought the sports network along with the news weren’t part of the deal.

Fox's regional sports networks are, and there is concern that the RSNs combined with ESPN will lead to higher fees and ultimately higher rates for cable packages.

 

[psylockolussus]

Is there other any red flags other than The Sports networks?

 

[Xeno]

Quesada felt their were too many mutants, and that it was undermining the whole point of the X-Men.

Brian Michael Bendis wanted to put Wolverine and Spiderman in the Avengers (and his faves Luke Cage and Jessica Jones), while Quesada wanted to reduce the mutant numbers. Bendis (and indeed other writers like Millar and Hickman) regarded characters like Wanda, Vision, Clint, and Scott Lang (Bendis tried to kill him off even before Disassembled) as "lame" (ironic given the MCU has made those characters popular again).

John Byrne trashed Wanda in order to trash Vision back in the 80s (by making her crazy, he effectively was saying she was crazy to see Vision as a person), then Dan Abnett and Kurt Busiek fixed the damage...then Bendis decided to repeat what Byrne did (it being the only Wanda story he knew), ignoring all of Kurt Busiek's work in defining Wanda's powers.
Bendis made Wanda disappear from comics for nearly a decade, an exile that only really ended due to Joss Whedon pushing her into the MCU.

One of the interesting things about MCU Vision is that he appears to be a pretty big repudiation of the way John Byrne (it's him who called Vision a "toaster") and most modern Marvel writers (Tom King excepted) view Vision.

And people have asked me why I hate almost everything that Marvel Comics has spewed out over the last three decades.

I never thought John Byrne should have been allowed to write anything other than his own name in crayon and his mistreatment of Wanda & the Vision proved me right. Not that he had covered himself in glory while destroying the core of the FF with wife-beater Reed, crazy Sue, and Skrull-bride Lyja. Just thinking back to that crap makes me furious. What Byrne did to Wanda, Vision and their kids was far worse than all of that in my eyes. Only Loeb did anything more disgusting with his "twincest" story, but at least that was in the Ultimates, not the 616 universe.

People like Bendis and the editors who enable them often consider characters "lame" or useless, and they complain that it's impossible to come up with fresh stories for them as excuses to kill off or destroy longtime heroes. Whenever someone admits that they can't write a character they ought to quit the book or be removed.

 

[Zarex]

Is there other any red flags other than The Sports networks?

The combined entity having too great a share of the BO is also a concern.

 

[psylockolussus]

Which shouldn't be. Its the incompetence of the other studios not being able to live up is the reason why they are behind Disney.

 

[honestbharani]

Share of BO is a stupid indicator. That will never hold legally. Even the regional sports networks won't be much trouble from my standpoint. Its likely they will decide some ceiling level stuff for rates for the streaming content and then they should be good to go.

 

[First Avenger]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bc3TGaglPif/

This does put a smile on my face.

 

[kevork89]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bc3TGaglPif/

This does put a smile on my face.

omg! That’s amazing. Sadly I’m in Australia where I can’t wear a Christmas sweater because it’s boiling hot outside lolz

 

[Zant]

RIP Inhumans.....At least some good will come from this deal.

 

[Xeno]

The combined entity having too great a share of the BO is also a concern.

People should be wary of complaining about Disney's box office share. There are already fears that the combined studio will release fewer films than they have separately. Complaints about the bo might give Disney an incentive to cut back on film production, which will lead to more job loss in Hollywood* and revenue loss in areas of the country where movies are filmed.

* I don't recall anyone in Hollywood bemoaning the jobs that were lost when the US steel and textile industries shuttered their plants or when offshoring caused appliance manufacturers to not only close their plants but also force their soon-to-be-fired workers to dismantle the equipment and load it onto ships bound for other countries. So forgive me for not shedding too many tears over the jobs that may be lost in Tinseltown when billionaires start taking out their profits.

 

[psylockolussus]

RIP Inhumans.....At least some good will come from this deal.

Well they killed it with a cheap TV show.

 

[First Avenger]

RIP Inhumans.....At least some good will come from this deal.

The TV division killed Inhumans themselves with that abomination.