Disney's Thor?! Some people are complaining that Thor feels like a kids movie!

[Nathan]

Frost Giants are Spider-Man level? What?

 

[BigThor]

weak is spiderman level and below.This is why i say The Frost giants are definitely weak.
Now the Cave Troll and Destroyer are above the level hence the need for Mjolonir.
Loki had a bad ass weapon that was it.His asgardian stregth aint anything to write home about so ill put him down as weak.

First of all, there was an ARMY of them and they were on THEIR planet and they're definately not Spider-Man level (they're stronger than normal Asgardians which are much stronger than Spidey).

Dude, strength isn't everything, Loki controls magic on a large enough scale to decimate a planet. He's also able to lift 30 tons which is twice the amount of Spider-Man, but that doesn't matter because he doesn't fight with his strength.

 

[Zionite]

First of all, there was an ARMY of them and they were on THEIR planet and they're definately not Spider-Man level (they're stronger than normal Asgardians which are much stronger than Spidey).

Dude, strength isn't everything, Loki controls magic on a large enough scale to decimate a planet. He's also able to lift 30 tons which is twice the amount of what Spider-Man can, but that doesn't matter because he doesn't fight with his strength.

When in the movie was it stated that Loki could lift 30 tons?Where in the movie did Loki show magic powerful to decimate a Planet?Where in the movie did you see an Asgardian dispaly a feat of stregth greater than Movie Spiderman?
Lest you forget Movie Spiderman stopped a Train.
This may be difficult for you to accept but the movie vewrsions of rhe characters are far less powerful than the comic version.That includes Thor.
Dont get me wrong Movie thor is more powerful than Movie spidey when you take in account mjolonir

 

[BigThor]

I'm not entertainig you anymore, your just getting more ridiculous with each post.

Comparing Thor & Loki to Spider-Man = FAIL

 

[Zionite]

I'm not entertainig you anymore, your just getting more ridiculous with each post.

Comparing Thor & Loki to Spider-Man = FAIL

In other words you cant think of a nice way to say you were wrong even though ive been polite to you and in no way bashing the movie or the beloved thor?wow.

 

[BigThor]

Oh and if you wanna get technical, movie Spider-Man used his webs to help him stop that train after he failed to stop it with his legs and he did it with GREAT strain (he even passed out).

 

[BigThor]

In other words you cant think of a nice way to say you were wrong even though ive been polite to you and in no way bashing the movie or the beloved thor?wow.

If that's what you want to think.

*shrugs*

 

[Nathan]

There's just simply nothing that suggests that Frost Giants are merely Spider-Man level in the movie. Other than you saying it.

 

[jmc]

I don't know if I'd say kid's Movie, but Thor probably plays it too save and formularic. It's still fun though.

Perfect description.

 

[BigThor]

There's just simply nothing that suggests that Frost Giants are merely Spider-Man level in the movie. Other than you saying it.

Yep and that's not even the worse part, he thinks Thor (without Mjolnir) and Loki are Spider-Man level just because they're not lifting anything.

Spider-Man didn't have any feats of strength until the 2nd film, does that mean he couldn't do those things in the 1st film? No, that just means that the opportunity to display that type of strength didn't present itself yet (same as Thor)

 

[Gamma Burst]

Yep and that's not even the worse part, he thinks Thor (without Mjolnir) and Loki are Spider-Man level just because they're not lifting anything.

Spider-Man didn't have any feats of strength until the 2nd film, does that mean he couldn't do those things in the 1st film? No, that just means that the opportunity to display that type of strength didn't present itself yet (same as Thor)

True. This guy doesn't make any sense.

 

[The Morningstar]

Spider-Man has feats of strength/durability every time he web swings. A normal man would get a dislocated shoulder at the very least. Arm completely ripped off at the very worst.

 

[Zionite]

Yep and that's not even the worse part, he thinks Thor (without Mjolnir) and Loki are Spider-Man level just because they're not lifting anything.

This is a forum.There is no need to start LYING!I never said that and you know it.

Spider-Man didn't have any feats of strength until the 2nd film, does that mean he couldn't do those things in the 1st film? No, that just means that the opportunity to display that type of strength didn't present itself yet (same as Thor)

In all politeness that is just stupid.Spiderman displayed a feat of Superstregth each time he Superpunched,Superleaped,web swing and take unnatural Damage etc.
Lifting thinggs are not the only way to display Superstregth.
Thor dispalyed Superstregth 3 major times in the film rest was just Mjolonir.
The 1st Superstregth feat was flipping an extremely long table over.Impressive but we have seen Spiderman do feats like that
The 2nd Superstregth feat was kicking a frost giant over a considerably distance.Spiderman has pulled off that same feat(remebeer punching flash)
The 3rd Superstregth feat was shrugging off some high level damage during his fight with Loki.However said Damage was something that Spidey could hanldle
In case Im missing any Superstregth feat piont it out for me.However the ones I pionted out are all Spidey level feats.
Lokis only feat of Superstregth was his ability to handle some inhuman damage from Thor.Aside from that I did not see any feat of stregth that made me think he was in Spideys league.
Why do I think Frost giants are Spidey level?Because they displayed thhe same leaping,Punching ability as Movie Spiderman did.
None of the Superstregth feats,Thor or loki pulled off is on par with Movie Hulk,Movie Superman,Neo....you get the idea.
If im wrong piont out one feat each that this two dis that blows Spidey out of the water(and nothing Mjolonir related)

 

[El Payaso]

I don't know if I'd say kid's Movie, but Thor probably plays it too save and formularic. It's still fun though.

That's a good description. You know what kind of movie is going to be and it fulfills every aspect of the formula. At least the Marvel formula.

^^^ That's pretty typical for an origin film, even the best cmb origin films play it safe and formulaic.

Not every one of them though. Batman 89, Ang lee's Hulk. Even Superman the Movie, which is NOW formula but was far from predictable back in the day.

 

[kedrell]

That's a good description. You know what kind of movie is going to be and it fulfills every aspect of the formula. At least the Marvel formula.



Not every one of them though. Batman 89, Ang lee's Hulk. Even Superman the Movie, which is NOW formula but was far from predictable back in the day.

Batman'89 wasn't an origin movie at all. Anghulk was an origin film that tried to be different and disaster came of it(which is why origin films don't do that anymore, rightly so). You're right about Superman 1.

 

[El Payaso]

Batman'89 wasn't an origin movie at all.

Yes it was. for both Batman and the Joker.

Anghulk was an origin film that tried to be different and disaster came of it(which is why origin films don't do that anymore, rightly so).

Well, that's the risk when you don't play safe. Doesn't mean you mustn't try it or that safe is the only way to go.

You're right about Superman 1.

 

[Tony Stark]

Not every one of them though. Batman 89, Ang lee's Hulk. Even Superman the Movie, which is NOW formula but was far from predictable back in the day.

Ang's movie went out of the way to be non-formulaic and in the process it was one of the most boring freaking movies I've ever seen.

Superman was a huge achievement, but when I watch it now, you can tell how rushed the production was on it. It's still a great movie and perhaps the "gold standard" for superhero movies, but I really wish Donner had been given the chance to finsih the film his way.

 

[El Payaso]

Ang's movie went out of the way to be non-formulaic and in the process it was one of the most boring freaking movies I've ever seen.

Well, that's the risk when you don't play safe. Doesn't mean you mustn't try it or that safe is the only way to go.

Superman was a huge achievement, but when I watch it now, you can tell how rushed the production was on it. It's still a great movie and perhaps the "gold standard" for superhero movies, but I really wish Donner had been given the chance to finsih the film his way.

Problems more or less, as you say, it is still a great movie. But wouldn't have been if it had played safe and formulaiistic (for those days' standards).

 

[Tony Stark]

Well, that's the risk when you don't play safe. Doesn't mean you mustn't try it or that safe is the only way to go.

That's true, I just feel Ang was the wrong person for that film, and there was alot of potential there, but I never felt Bruce Banner as a character, and that was the real failing of that film. Bill Bixby is the measuring stick for Bruce/David Banner, because he gave so much character to Bruce that it allowed the Hulk to just be a monster. Bana was a great actor, but he was given nothing to work with.

Problems more or less, as you say, it is still a great movie. But wouldn't have been if it had played safe and formulaiistic (for those days' standards).

No doubt there, it's a huge achievement, and it's still very watchable even in these effects laden times. Heck the flying in that movie looks better to me than Superman Returns.

If the new Superman is half as good as that movie was, it will be a great achievement.

 

[conan69]

The film makes it pretty clear Asgardians although superhuman, vary in strength. Above all obviously is Odin, but Loki comments on Heimdell and asks him if Odin ever had reason to fear him - which pretty much says Heimdell is up there in power as well. So for those who may not be familiar with the comic books there are some clues to powerlevels amoungst the Asgardians... Odin, Thor, Heimdell, with Loki appearing a bit lower, but having other powers that some of the others, like Thor dont seem to possess. The rest come off as mostly superhuman warriors.

Thor did seem depowered. Movie Thor didnt seem like he could lift 90+ tons, but that doesnt really bother me. Its a film, not a comic book, so I dont mind bringing the power levels down a bit - Thor still did some amazing things in the film, and Im pretty happy with what I saw.

 

[The Morningstar]

The thing is, with concepts and obscure characters such as Thor and also Green Lantern, you can't really take too many risks. These films have massive budgets, they need to make some bank.

With characters like Batman and even Hulk, you can play around with it a bit more and take more risks.

 

[misjuevos]

thor also took a direct head butt from a frost giant and it didn't even phase him, he just laughed at it.

 

[DarthDaveBanner]

I dunno, I think Branagh took a worthwhile risk in making the film so close to the source material eg. sticking to a lot of the Kirby designs instead of going for the gritty LOTR look. Ditto for casting unknowns in the 2 lead roles.

 

[BigThor]

This is a forum.There is no need to start LYING!I never said that and you know it.

Well, remember this

The way the Movie Thors Asgardian stregth was potrayed it is equal or less than Movie Spidermans.

The 2nd Superstregth feat was kicking a frost giant over a considerably distance.Spiderman has pulled off that same feat(remebeer punching flash)

No, they're clearly not the same, one is a human while the other is a 10 ft tall otherworldly monster.

 

[Tony Stark]

Zionite, you're certainly entitled to your opinion of the movie, but I'm not sure what you're playing at. If you didn't think they displayed a respective level of power for Thor in the movie, then fine. However it seems that most people disagree, which is also fine. You're not really doing yourself any favors by accusing people of lying and such. It's just a movie, either you were entertained, or you weren't. Hopefully you were entertained.