Doctor Who - "Am I a good thread?"

[Specter313]

Question: Any early buzz on how Doctor Who‘s new — and significantly grayer — star Peter Capaldi will differ from his predecessor Matt Smith? —Morgan
Ausiello: The Season 8 premiere, written by exec producer Steven Moffat, makes several overt references to the physical differences between the Eleventh and Twelfth Doctors (whose portrayers have a real-life age difference of 25 years) — including an extended and very amusing bit about Capaldi’s “independently cross” eyebrows. That said, Capaldi himself sounds game for whatever adventures his showrunner cooks up. “The first time you make an escape through a ventilation shaft is quite special,” he notes with a laugh. One future Season 8 installment, though, sounds a little less action-adventure and a little more introspective. Indeed, Moffat promises an episode exploring “What does [the Doctor] do when he’s got nothing to do?” (One theory: Recording DVD extras about “wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff.&#8221

http://tvline.com/2014/08/19/ask-ausiello-spoilers-sons-of-anarchy-castle-greys-anatomy-spoilers/

Love the description of the eyebrows.

 

[AnneFan]

I hope Jenna stays on for at least one more season. She is also my favorite NewWho companion (well, her and Donna are very close).

I like Jenna too, but I won't be surprised if she leaves at the Christmas special.

 

[Matt]

I've never been big on Clara. I feel like her importance in the lore was just kinda shoe-horned in. I don't feel like she's earned what was given to her in The Name of the Doctor (and Time of the Doctor and Day of the Doctor). She is easily the most important companion of NuWho...hell, arguably of all Doctor Who, due to her role in the lore. But I felt that was never really deserved. It almost felt like they were trying too hard to make an awesome companion to follow up the amazing Amy Pond (who is the best companion of NuWho, IMO) and they overplayed their hand in doing so.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Her story arc was thinner than paper. In just 7 episodes we figure out what this "Impossible Girl" is.


Depending on how people view what's coming up for Clara they could see it as good or bad

Spoiler

-Complete shock at the doctor changing and in denial that it's happened.

-Apparently pushing a younger doctor at that hut in "Day of the doctor" to not go into the army but go to timelord academy

 

[DarthSkywalker]

She looks fantastic.

I've never been big on Clara. I feel like her importance in the lore was just kinda shoe-horned in. I don't feel like she's earned what was given to her in The Name of the Doctor (and Time of the Doctor and Day of the Doctor). She is easily the most important companion of NuWho...hell, arguably of all Doctor Who, due to her role in the lore. But I felt that was never really deserved. It almost felt like they were trying too hard to make an awesome companion to follow up the amazing Amy Pond (who is the best companion of NuWho, IMO) and they overplayed their hand in doing so.

One Amelia Pond is without a doubt my favorite Who companion, original Who or NuWho. They overdid it with Clara, trying to make her as awesome as Amy in a very short amount of time. The Impossible Girl idea felt like an artificial attempt to top "the Girl Who Waited", who also happened to have a crack in her bedroom wall and ended up the Doctor's mother-in-law. Rory Pond is the luckiest of men. t:

That being said, I like how Jenna plays the role a lot and would love for her to stay on.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I always forget people like Amy. I found Rory so much better. Besides Donna all the male companions since the revival have been so much better than any female ones.

 

[Primal Slayer]

With 11 not even staying another season, it really was a waste to get rid of the Ponds 8 episodes before his departure. I know the reasons for their departure but they should have just convinced Karen to stay for a couple more episodes.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

I love Amy and Rory, they felt more real to me. The whole ensemble had great chemistry.

 

[Jason Kane]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I always forget people like Amy. I found Rory so much better. Besides Donna all the male companions since the revival have been so much better than any female ones.

I didn't like Rory at first, but he grew on me and I ended up really liking him. But he was no Amy Pond.

With 11 not even staying another season, it really was a waste to get rid of the Ponds 8 episodes before his departure. I know the reasons for their departure but they should have just convinced Karen to stay for a couple more episodes.

What was the reasons? While I liked the story they went with with Clara, it didn't quite feel right that Amy didn't make it to Trenzalore. 11 and Amy were a true partnership, and yet she left right before he got there. Still, love Amy and Rory's final episode, even if it broke my heart.

 

[Sawyer]

Why the **** did nobody tell me about Chris Addison?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/veep-director-favorites-become-doctor-726198

'Veep' Director Among Favorites to Become 'Doctor Who' Sidekick
2:31 AM PST 08/19/2014 by Alex Ritman

Chris Addison now tapped — along with 'Game of Thrones' star Rose Leslie — to replace Jenna Coleman

Chris Addison, the British comedian and actor who directed much of the second season of HBO’s Emmy-nominated political comedy Veep, is set to join the cast of Doctor Who.

Addison will appear as a guest in the hit BBC series’ upcoming two part-finale Dark Water/Death in Heaven. He told U.K. magazine Radio Times that being offered the role was the easiest question he’d ever been asked.

"It’s a 35-year dream come true. Seven-year me would be going off his nut, and I’m not far behind," he said.

The role reunites Addison with the new time lord Peter Capaldi, whom he played alongside in the U.K. TV comedy and Veep predecessor The Thick of It, and also in its spinoff film In the Loop. It has also made Addison among the front-runners to become Doctor Who’s new companion following speculation in the U.K. press that Jenna Coleman is set to leave the show in a Christmas storyline after 18 months as sidekick.

"By the time she leaves she will be one of the longest-standing companions ever. She has been absolutely brilliant in the role, but everyone agrees it is a part that should change after a period," a source told The Mirror.

Addison is now the bookies’ second favorite behind Game of Thrones star Rose Leslie to replace Coleman.

The season eight opener of Doctor Who is due to air on BBC One on Aug. 23, and it will be screened at midnight at cinemas across the U.S. on the same day.

I need a recreation of this scene:

 

[Manic]

I didn't like Rory at first, but he grew on me and I ended up really liking him. But he was no Amy Pond.


What was the reasons? While I liked the story they went with with Clara, it didn't quite feel right that Amy didn't make it to Trenzalore. 11 and Amy were a true partnership, and yet she left right before he got there. Still, love Amy and Rory's final episode, even if it broke my heart.

I got the impression that Karen and Arthur were ready to leave before the mid-season break during series 7, but Matt didn't decide to leave until later. And I think Moffat wasn't going to tackle the Trenzalore stuff until Matt's exit. I'm just guessing, though.

I always forget people like Amy. I found Rory so much better. Besides Donna all the male companions since the revival have been so much better than any female ones.

I don't know about that. Jack and Rory were both great, but Mickey was kind of a lovesick dud.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I don't know about that. Jack and Rory were both great, but Mickey was kind of a lovesick dud.

I swear to god, in his first few appearances Mickey might as well have been tap dancing.

 

[Manic]

"By the time she leaves she will be one of the longest-standing companions ever. She has been absolutely brilliant in the role, but everyone agrees it is a part that should change after a period," a source told The Mirror.

Longest standing? Assuming she leaves during the Christmas special, she'll only have been a companion for just over a year. She only joined the cast in 2013. That doesn't even put Jenna in the Top 5 for longest standing companions.

Karen and Arthur were on the show from 2010 to 2012.
Janet Fielding was there from 1981 to 1984.
Elisabeth Sladen joined in late 1973 and left in 1976.
Frazer Hines was from late 1966 to 1969.

And if we went by story count, we'd have to include Billie Piper in the running.

(though I think nobody has Hines beat for individual episodes, simply because he was there for so long in an era when serials went on forever)

 

[chamber-music]

I had no idea Addison directed episodes of Veep.

 

[TheUnknownX]

Midnight is on and it's one of my favorite episodes. The characters in this episode though, so freakin irritating!

 

[Manic]

Midnight aka David Troughton Plays His 500th Doctor Who Character

 

[Sawyer]

I had no idea Addison directed episodes of Veep.

Yep. Pretty much all the writers and directors on Veep are people the creator worked with on either The Thick of It or In The Loop.

 

[Gold Samurai]

BBC have announced "Doctor Who Extra"- basically a 10-minute revival of Confidential, it will be an Iplayer exclusive http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2014/doctor-who-extra

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

not sure how reliable it is, but it looks like they leaked episode 5 of the new series online, but not episode 4...

 

[Primal Slayer]

I didn't like Rory at first, but he grew on me and I ended up really liking him. But he was no Amy Pond.


What was the reasons? While I liked the story they went with with Clara, it didn't quite feel right that Amy didn't make it to Trenzalore. 11 and Amy were a true partnership, and yet she left right before he got there. Still, love Amy and Rory's final episode, even if it broke my heart.

They wanted to go out on top and not have the characters overstay their welcome. But this is also why they shouldn't have "killed/sealed" them off. Should've had Clara join them and be a 3 people traveling with the Doctor and have Amy/Rory take time off then bring them back for the end and have them leave when he regenerates.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Just watched Smith's last episode again. His speech, his moment with Amy, all the call backs. Kills me. I still remember the first time I watched it. I thought I get through it without the waterworks, and then he saw little Amelia.

I love you 11. My raggedy man. My Doctor.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I don't know about that. Jack and Rory were both great, but Mickey was kind of a lovesick dud.

Mickey wasn't great in his first appearance, I'll grant you that, but once it was shown the Doctor respected him after the Slitheen incident he was good, he decided to not be with Rose (which became undone with Boom Town though). Then in Series 2 he became even better.

Then you have companions like Rose in Series 2 who was unbearable at times, Martha who was too lovesick, Amy acted too often like Rory was an afterthought, and Clara's just boring at times (though she will get much better). Then there's River.

Most of the male companions (minus Adam) have all been great.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Mickey wasn't great in his first appearance, I'll grant you that, but once it was shown the Doctor respected him after the Slitheen incident he was good, he decided to not be with Rose (which became undone with Boom Town though). Then in Series 2 he became even better.

Then you have companions like Rose in Series 2 who was unbearable at times, Martha who was too lovesick, Amy acted too often like Rory was an afterthought, and Clara's just boring at times (though she will get much better). Then there's River.

Most of the male companions (minus Adam) have all been great.

This always makes me crack up. What does that even mean? Amy loved Rory, more then anything. But, she also had to get there. Rory had to win her heart. She grew up a broken girl, who took on a very prickly demeanor to keep herself from loss and pain. Her only lifeline was the raggedy man, the one she was continually told did not exist. It was her time with the Doctor that truly allowed her to open up and give over her heart willingly. Was there ever an instance after Rory became the Boy Who Waited that he was an "afterthought"? No.

How many male companions are actually asked to carry the show? How many have a fully realized arc or make up a significant part of a series? Heck, how many "male companions" really qualify as companions? Rory is the only one to feature throughout a whole series and was actually used on the promotional tours and material. Mickey wasn't apart of the TARDIS. Captain Jack wasn't either.

Rory is the only one who has actually had a genuine arc and became a true part of the TARDIS family. As for the women, I loved Rose in series 1, I adored Amy throughout her run, Donna was great, and I have really liked Clara's run so far.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

"This is my friend, Rory." "Boyfriend." "Sort of boyfriend." (Taking place after the years of yearning and Amy running after him as seen in Let's Kill Hitler).

Running away on her wedding night.

Trying to get the Doctor D.

Surprised to see herself with Rory in the future.

"You may certainly kiss the bride".

Not telling Rory she is pregnant.


Rory wasn't wrong when he said he loved her more than she loved him. He sat awake for 2, 000 years at her side, and she gets all uppity after 30 years, and kicks him out too. Moffat put it in because people thought it was true, he just didn't come up with a great resolution.

As for others not having an arc, you have GOT to be joking. Mickey is the same character in Rose as End of Time Pt 2? Or Jack in Empty Child and End of Time pt 2?

A companion (besides one offs) is someone who travels with the Doctor over multiple stories.

Women are always primary, because that's become the format of the show "Stuck between a girl and a box. Story of your life eh, Doctor?" Despite the fact that the Second Doctor's most iconic companion would be Jamie, who appeared in nearly every story the Second Doctor appeared in, and despite Sarah Jane being probably the most iconic companion the Brigadier appeared with more Doctors, IIRC. If you want tk know more about male companions, might I suggest just watching them?