Dr. Lecter Invites you to Dinner. The ''Hannibal'' Thread - Part 2

[Orb]

Even without Hannibal NBC has a strong lineup of shows on their way :
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[Sawyer]

I wouldn't pair Revolution with those other two. It's not doing the numbers it did last season, but at least it's still staying semi-afloat with no lead-in. Those two have been rapidly sinking within the first month on-air.

 

[Marvolo]

The best thing for this show is for it to be released by Netflix. It can go to even darker places and just have more story options, doesn't have advertisements and time slots and can be released all at once.

I don't want Amazon anywhere near this show. I ain't paying $100 a year for Prime or $1.99 per episode. Forget that!

 

[Sawyer]

The best thing for this show is for it to be released by Netflix. It can go darker places, doesn't have advertisements and time slots and can be released all at once.

I don't want Amazon anywhere near this show. I ain't paying $100 a year or $1.99 per episode. Forget that!

If worse comes to worse, you'll have to take what you can get.

 

[Primal Slayer]

The best thing for this show is for it to be released by Netflix. It can go to even darker places and just have more story options, doesn't have advertisements and time slots and can be released all at once.

I don't want Amazon anywhere near this show. I ain't paying $100 a year for Prime or $1.99 per episode. Forget that!

$5 difference, not gonna make you or break you.

 

[Marvolo]

If worse comes to worse, you'll have to take what you can get.

I have options. I already plan on picking up the blurays so I'd really rather not pay $26 to watch it on Amazon then turn around and have to buy the bluray too. I'll just have to find some other way to watch it while it's airing and pick up the bluray so I can support the show.

$5 difference, not gonna make you or break you.

Yes, Netflix costs $96 a year, but I have a LOT of stuff I watch on it. If I get Prime for this show I'll essentially be paying $100 for a single show. I'd have to cancel Netflix to afford that. So I'd be giving up an entire library of stuff on Netflix for a single show on Prime video. Or I could just buy each episode for $1.99. So that's $26 for the season on top of $96 for Netflix and what I pay for cable monthly. It's just an added expense I don't want.

 

[John Locke]

I thought once you had Prime Amazon's library is free.

 

[jonathancrane]

I used Prime cos of their student discount + embedded two day shipping which is nice. I found I liked their library, and did not have a need to switch to Netflix. As for the Marvel shows, I'll wait until they come out on BD.

 

[Marvolo]

I thought once you had Prime Amazon's library is free.

I think some shows are. Regardless like I said the only way I can fit Amazon Prime into my budget is canceling Netflix and their original programing interests me more and I prefer their library of shows so I don't want to lose it if I can help it.

For me it's a budget and total value for cost thing. As much as I love Hannibal it's not enough value for me to cancel Netflix and subscribe to Prime.

But we'll see Ill work something out. I certainly won't be quitting the show, and I want to support it but I want to stay on top of my budget too.

 

[Primal Slayer]

lol lets get not to ahead of ourselves here, NBC hasnt even decided the shows fate yet.

 

[The Shape]

Hannibal is a show that does NOT belong on NBC. Plain and simple. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I credit NBC for taking such a risk with a show like this and sticking with it thus far, but airing on this network is probably the worst thing that could have happened to this show. There's just a bit too much pressure to bring in a certain standard of ratings in prime time for a show like Hannibal. I have no doubt that it would have excelled elsewhere.

It just doesn't get the attention it deserves on NBC. It has had the weakest marketing for any prime time show I've seen since season 1 aired. It doesn't fit in well with NBC's weekly prime time schedule, nor does it appeal to the typical NBC/network television viewer. A show of this quality deserves to be the shining light of a cable network like Breaking Bad or TWD are on AMC, where it can be marketed fiercely and unabashedly...and even where it can be aired multiple times in a night or week for viewers to catch up. Instead, NBC has stuck it in a Friday night death slot at 10pm, when most people who WOULD be interested in the show are either out for the evening or otherwise pre-occupied.

Hannibal's lead-in is Dateline. Does that make any sense whatsoever? I can only imagine the conversation with whoever's bright idea this was. "Hey, guys. What should we put in the slot after Dateline, a show that features investigations into absolutely tragic real-life murders and is generally depressing overall?" "Well...how bout Hannibal? I'm sure casual viewers of Dateline will be ITCHING to watch a show that glorifies sadistic murders after they've just watched a show about how a beautiful mother of two had her throat crushed by a weight bench at the hands of her cheating husband!!"

Imagine how epic it would be if Hannibal's lead in was...Game of Thrones. What a combination that would be. Its success would be all but guaranteed. Hell, it would excel if it was paired alongside ANY HBO or Showtime drama...

 

[HighFivingMF]

It's lead-in is usually Grimm. Except when there's Dateline.

 

[Maximus One]

Think if it had been produced by HBO.

 

[The Shape]

It's lead-in is usually Grimm. Except when there's Dateline.

Either way, Hannibal is just a bit too cerebral and dreary for where it airs right now. For a show this great, the fans shouldn't have to worry week-to-week about its fate.

 

[Sawyer]

Hannibal is a show that does NOT belong on NBC. Plain and simple. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I credit NBC for taking such a risk with a show like this and sticking with it thus far, but airing on this network is probably the worst thing that could have happened to this show. There's just a bit too much pressure to bring in a certain standard of ratings in prime time for a show like Hannibal. I have no doubt that it would have excelled elsewhere.

It just doesn't get the attention it deserves on NBC. It has had the weakest marketing for any prime time show I've seen since season 1 aired. It doesn't fit in well with NBC's weekly prime time schedule, nor does it appeal to the typical NBC/network television viewer. A show of this quality deserves to be the shining light of a cable network like Breaking Bad or TWD are on AMC, where it can be marketed fiercely and unabashedly...and even where it can be aired multiple times in a night or week for viewers to catch up. Instead, NBC has stuck it in a Friday night death slot at 10pm, when most people who WOULD be interested in the show are either out for the evening or otherwise pre-occupied.

Hannibal's lead-in is Dateline. Does that make any sense whatsoever? I can only imagine the conversation with whoever's bright idea this was. "Hey, guys. What should we put in the slot after Dateline, a show that features investigations into absolutely tragic real-life murders and is generally depressing overall?" "Well...how bout Hannibal? I'm sure casual viewers of Dateline will be ITCHING to watch a show that glorifies sadistic murders after they've just watched a show about how a beautiful mother of two had her throat crushed by a weight bench at the hands of her cheating husband!!"

Imagine how epic it would be if Hannibal's lead in was...Game of Thrones. What a combination that would be. Its success would be all but guaranteed. Hell, it would excel if it was paired alongside ANY HBO or Showtime drama...

 

[The Shape]

^ Sorry that I wish for a show I love to be successful...and on a station where it has more of a fighting chance.

But hey, if you're cool with the show teetering on the edge of cancellation every other week, more power to ya.

 

[Sawyer]

I'm just tired of this tendency to throw accusations and blame and attitude at the network that's providing you the show to begin with. Everytime someone brings up cancellation, we're projecting a sense of danger that might not even be there to begin with, you guys get that, right? The ratings were **** last year too, and yet we still got a second season. What's going on in the making of this series is entirely different from most others. They're playing by different rules. What the network considers important for most of the series doesn't apply here, because there are different factors in play.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, I don't fault NBC for their handling of this show at all. I mean, given its content, they could never have put it in a "prime" spot, and so far, they seem to be letting Fuller and Co. just do their thing without interference. I haven't gotten the impression that they're expecting any significantly higher ratings than they've been getting in this time slot, either, so unless they suddenly cancel it without warning, I'd say they're treating fairly well.

 

[The Shape]

I'm just tired of this tendency to throw accusations and blame and attitude at the network that's providing you the show to begin with. Everytime someone brings up cancellation, we're projecting a sense of danger that might not even be there to begin with, you guys get that, right? The ratings were **** last year too, and yet we still got a second season. What's going on in the making of this series is entirely different from most others. They're playing by different rules. What the network considers important for most of the series doesn't apply here, because there are different factors in play.

But, you see, I'm not necessarily placing blame towards NBC entirely. I even gave them credit for taking such a risk in airing a show like this. It's not necessarily the network's fault that Hannibal isn't the best fit for their schedule at this point.

Yes, Hannibal is cheap to produce and has a unique deal in place with NBC. Yes, there are different factors at play than with most network series, but why am I supposed to be happy or thankful that Hannibal is just getting by in the ratings and is being kept on its current network because it doesn't cost NBC too much? I'm not worried that the show is in danger, because I know it will more than likely be picked up by another provider or something, but that's still a major inconvenience for a lot of people who have been following the show.

My point was that Hannibal should have been somewhere else from the start. HBO would have been my pipe dream network, but even so, shows like The Walking Dead, American Horror Story, and Sons of Anarchy have been killing it on cable, bringing in "record" ratings every week and creating a buzz that most network dramas doesn't even have. Hannibal is a show that belongs in that class of television programming where it would have excelled, built an even stronger audience from the start, and been promoted like crazy by FX or whichever network aired it.

I'm not talking about what's best for me or for us, but what's best for the show. Having favorite TV shows or movies is no different than having a favorite sports team. You root for them to succeed (even when they sometimes suck). I don't really want to hear things like "The ratings were **** last season and yet we still got a second season"...and I also don't really like hearing excuses made for the show like "It's cheap to make so NBC might leave it on". Do you remember how miserable we all were in this thread waiting for weeks as every other show was renewed or cancelled and we heard nothing about Hannibal? If that's how it's gonna be this time, I'd rather NBC let it go after this season.

A show this good with a cast this strong should be making way more waves than it does currently. It should be a weekly event like other TV shows are. Am I wrong in feeling that way?

 

[slimshady247]

You would want NBC to let the show go just because you're not patient enough to wait for a renewal? Really?

 

[The Shape]

You would want NBC to let the show go just because you're not patient enough to wait for a renewal? Really?

Let the show go to another network, sure. Would you care?

 

[slimshady247]

Oh ok. I thought you were saying to just let it die. I agree there then, sorry. And indeed I wouldn't (care if it went to another network).

 

[The Shape]

Oh ok. I thought you were saying let it die. I agree there then, sorry.

Nah, I wouldn't want the show to die out of spite for NBC. Lol

But I'd be down for the show to move on from NBC to a place that would let Fuller continue whilst promoting the show more heavily.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Amazon could pick it up, FXM or SundanceTV could use it.

I hope Amazon isn't the one to pick it up if the situation arises. Means I'd have to sign up for Prime, and none of their series has gotten physical releases, yet, as far as to my knowledge.

EDIT: Oh missed that this whole page was discussing this. I'd have the same problems with Netflix picking it up, too.

 

[slimshady247]

Well, someone has to pick it up if it gets dropped, and it's better Netflix or Amazon Prime than no one at all.