Dream Team League Rankings

[JewishHobbit]

And yet you don't answer them

 

[wiegeabo]

I did not.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Fear of confrontation, eh? I feel you.

Nightwing says he thinks Indigo Ray would be a DM and I think I agree with that. Fair assessment. Could that be a go so I can pick him up?

 

[wiegeabo]

With that skill to twist words around, you should really consider running for office.

The Indigo Lanterns, besides having their base power set of energy attacks, forcefields, healing, and teleportation, can also mimic the powers of any other Lanterns near them. So if they're by a Green Lantern, they become Green Lanterns. Near a Red, they become Red. This ability to copy uber powers, combined with their default uber power set (blasts not having a lot of effect on Black Lanterns doesn't mean they aren't uber attacks because BL's are so darn tough, even other Lanterns had trouble), means they are ubers. You tack on Ray's power as Atom, and you've got a potentially lethal powerset right there.

 

[JewishHobbit]

So Uber then huh? Hmm... I'll have to sleep on that. Powers are good, but if you aren't going against another Lantern he loses a big aspect of what makes him an Uber.

I'll decide tomorrow morning if I'm going to pick him up for certain. And should we then assume that his Indigo blasts or whatever are equal to a Green Lantern's.

 

[wiegeabo]

That's what it looked like. Indigo blasts looked just as effective as those from other Lanterns. It's just that they can't form constructs or do the various other things without another Lantern around.

Powers are good, but if you aren't going against another Lantern he loses a big aspect of what makes him an Uber.

Maybe that means he's not a good character.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I still say he's medium... just a really good one, but eh, I like him enough to give him a go as an Uber.

 

[Nightwing]

Darkseid - Uber or Tuber?

AS thinks Uber seen as Silver Surfer, Doomsday etc can trounce him...do we have any other views?

Im waiting on this decision for my pick up.

 

[Harlekin]

What ranking would The Top (Flash villain) be?

 

[wiegeabo]

When spinning, can't he achieve speedster, or near-speedster, speeds?

 

[Harlekin]

He's got speed, yeah, but as far as I can recall, he's nowhere near Flash's speed. The spinning just makes it easier to compete with speedsters. Medium?

 

[Nightwing]

Whilst researching for this weeks battle I couldnt help but notice I once again am against a mage and I'll be honest I was never a fan of them previously...

This mage I faced however was a worry to me and personally I think he should be Tuber.

Unless we have powerful mages ourselves we cant defend ourselves realistically.

I faced Mordru and in his bio it states this

'Only Darkseid and the Time Trapper (or Glorith) rival him in terms of raw power.'

Surely if only a Tuber matches him then he too should be uber. He has no limit to his power, has more mage skill than most mages I gather, not to mention a stupidly fast healing factor, strength levels within the tons and energy and molecular manipulation that few can withstand...

Surely this counts as Tuber, I may be wrong...

And personally I would prefer it if all mages were excluded from this competition...

But thats just me

 

[Harlekin]

One shouldn't forgot the sentence before the quoted part. "In the 30th and 31st centuries, Mordru is the premier sorcerer in the known universe, and arguably the Legion of Super-Heroes' most powerful individual foe." I have the present day Mordru, who is most definitely powerful, but not on the level of his future self.

Now, I have two questions about HotNA:
1) Why is Psylocke a medium? She should be a regular.
2) To which appearances does Captain Britain (w/ Excalibur) refer? His time as Ruler of Otherworld or his short stint with the sword in Captain Britain and MI-13?

 

[Nightwing]

I personally am not bothered what rank she is. but i think with her power set and her immunities etc deemed her medium a few seasons ago

As for Cap B he is the Ruler of Otherworld but it would be classed as a blitz if he could rearrange the cosmos with the sword...he is just powerful (toe to toe with Thor) and the sword is the same as the Black Knights...can cut through anything...he is also immune to telepathy and can see through mystical barriers such as illusions thanks to the magical embuement of the helmet given by Merlin...

 

[Harlekin]

Which would go against the three-issue rule, wouldn't it? I'm pretty sure we only see him handle Excalibur for one issue. It also doesn't jibe with the later appearance of the sword in MI-13. How much of this is conjecture and how much was actually shown in the comics?

 

[Nightwing]

Which would go against the three-issue rule, wouldn't it? I'm pretty sure we only see him handle Excalibur for one issue. It also doesn't jibe with the later appearance of the sword in MI-13. How much of this is conjecture and how much was actually shown in the comics?

I will look into this and I will find the issues with him wielding said blade and ill get back to you asap...

 

[Nightwing]

Do you know what? by the looks of things he barely used the sword...however his otherworld incarnation is at his most powerful...which I believe is similar to thor strength...his suit is embued with the amulet of right and the sceptre although this incarnation doesnt even need the suit to draw on his powers...

Unless someone else can clarify the extent of Captain Britains Excalibur wielding I will happily remove that from my line up as a useable weapon...

I didnt realise though that the weapon had to be used for 3 issues or more...It was my understanding that if they used it and it was due to be a set piece of kit they could have it...i might be wrong though but i was basing that on the Iron Man/Dr Strange what if armour...

 

[Harlekin]

This is true, but Excalibur wouldn't qualify as a set piece. If it were Captain Britain with something like the Ebony Blade, it would be different, I think. Excalibur is too much of an unknown.

 

[Nightwing]

I think that is what I meant...I've been writing Excalibur due to his side run comic...I meant Ebony Blade hence why I compared it to Black Knights...

D'oh

 

[Harlekin]

I think that is what I meant...I've been writing Excalibur due to his side run comic...I meant Ebony Blade hence why I compared it to Black Knights...

D'oh

Uh... what? Cap'n Britain has never handled the Ebony Blade, as far as I know.

 

[Nightwing]

Im a little confused now...im sure there has been a few issues where he has wielded a blade...im not sure what blade or when he did but im sure he has...

 

[Harlekin]

Captain Britain held the blade Excalibur in the Excalibur miniseries following the first series and before the Claremont reboot with Professior Xavier and Magneto in Genosha. This is what started his whole 'King of Otherworld' tenure. As far as I know, he only had the blade for the last issue and its properties are relatively unknown or otherwise tuber.

Then he held Excalibur again recently in Captain Britain and MI-13. Again, it was a one-issue deal and it didn't seem to have any particular special properties to it this time, it was just very very badass. He put it back in the stone, where it was then picked up by Faiza Hussain.

In his early days, he wielded a sceptre. The Ebony Blade might've crossed his hands during the last Excalibur series (New Excalibur), but I'm pretty sure it didn't.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Bringing this over from the Week 5 thread.

doi!
but she certainly transports anyone she wants(unlike any other teleporter) and her spears teleportation take up a small AREA, at which it only teleports who/what she wants and where(and over GREAT DISTANCES)

MEDIUM
the funny thing is, is that you act like as soon as she throws EVERY spear, that its going to hit. and whats blinks actual history before she became a "mass murderer"

I must have clarified this eight times by now.... THIS IS NOT THE BLINK FROM EXILES!!! Blink in the 616 doesn't throw javelins. Litterally, she appears near them, or walks up to them, touches them, and BLINK. That's it. There's no more to it. And her teleportation is one large or small disk, and she has to be there with it. She can't just reach out and teleport someone by creating the disk underneath them like in the Age of Apocalypse. She has to be there to do it. This Blink is very inexperienced, unlike the Age of Apocalypse/Exiles version... who has never been debated a Medium by the way.

As for her history, she was just in the Generation Next portion of the Phalanx Covenant. She was kidnapped by the Phalanx along with the other future Generation X kids just prior to their book's debut. She was a scared little girl who did absolutely nothing other than hurt one phalanx by blinking it (and it just kinda screwed with him a bit, that's it). Then at the end of the story she blinked the main one to help the others escape but she couldn't control her powers and blinked both the main Phalanx (Harvest) and herself pretty much out of existence.

Then Selene showed up, felt her existence, and pulled her back through. She was still a scared girl but Selene took her in for a time and taught her that she was destined to bring death and molded her mind into becoming a killer. We didn't see much of that time but later we see her show up at a man's doorstep and when he opens it she blinks him to pieces and death so that Selene and her followers can have his house.

Then in Necrosha she acts as the human teleporter to get Selene's forces to Utopia where the X-Men are, and then Selene begins raising the dead. Blink then took Selene and a few others to Genosha and raised the dead there. When the time was right, Blink then brought all the dead to Selene and she absorbed them into herself and became a God. In the process of all this Blink blinked off Archangel's wings, Vanisher's arm, and tried to kill pretty much everyone who came into contact with her, but mostly she stayed out of harm's way and stayed by Selene's side. When all was said and done Archangel gutted her with his newly grown wings and she teleported away. That's the last we've seen of her.

And that's her history fully.

 

[wiegeabo]

Ok, I'm still a little confused.

She has to actually touch something/someone to teleport it. Then what's up with the disks? Or do you mean by disks the teleportation portals? She doesn't create portals? She has to physically touch something?

 

[AnnoyingSilence]

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She didn't devour thousands of mutants, she brought them to Selene who devoured them.

doi!
but she certainly transports anyone she wants(unlike any other teleporter) and her teleportation takes up a small AREA, at which it only teleports who/what she wants and where(and over GREAT DISTANCES)

MEDIUM

And Blink is close to medium bar but I think what keeps her reg is the fact that besides basic teleportaion portals she actually has to touch the person to blink them. Puts her in a vulnerable position. Not to mention other teleporters (magic users, basic teleporters, etc.) can typically counter a basic teleporter.

so she teleports to who/whatever, touchs and instantly teleports w/e in the area away.... thats real vulnerable... in a split second kind of way(only a precog could see her coming).

a basic teleporter is nightcrawler. he can teleport him and a piece or a whole of whats touching him(and not very far(but w/e it is, hes goin with it))