Dream Team League Rankings

[AnnoyingSilence]

She has to actually touch something/someone to teleport it. Then what's up with the disks?

the disks are the effect of her teleportion

She has to physically touch something?

by body part

 

[JewishHobbit]

Ok, I'm still a little confused.

She has to actually touch something/someone to teleport it. Then what's up with the disks? Or do you mean by disks the teleportation portals? She doesn't create portals? She has to physically touch something?

I'm sorry, I said disks but I mean portals. Kinda like Magik. It's nothing to really worry about though. Basically, she just teleports people and a pink portal is the visual aid of it as it. It's really been shown as nothing more than a visual effect so you know that she's teleporting.

doi!
but she certainly transports anyone she wants(unlike any other teleporter) and her teleportation takes up a small AREA, at which it only teleports who/what she wants and where(and over GREAT DISTANCES)

MEDIUM

So she teleports to who/whatever, touchs and instantly teleports w/e in the area away.... thats real vulnerable... in a split second kind of way(only a precog could see her coming).

a basic teleporter is nightcrawler. he can teleport him and a piece or a whole of whats touching him(and not very far(but w/e it is, hes goin with it))

Who says that anything about Nightcrawler is a Medium? Illyana Rasputin is a Regular and she has not only the teleportation but also some good magical deals. Exiles/AoA Blink is a regular and she can do all my Blink can do and more. Pixie is a stronger teleporter and she's barely a Regular.

And yes she's quick but it's not split second. Nightcrawler is quicker than she is. In fact, I'd say she's fairly slow as far as teleporters go. She has to come up on you to touch you, or appear beside you and then touch you. And when she does whole areas, it's the whole area. She can't just pick and choose who gets taken. She's very inexperienced. And if all you can think of that can beat her is a precog then you're not very creative. I mean, I think I've written her defeated or killed off in nearly every, if not every, write up that I've done, and only one of those battles involved a precog. It's not too difficult.

The only thing that makes her seem Medium is that she'll kill, and honstly, if that was a deciding factor then nearly every badguy Regular should be Medium.

She's a great Regular but she'd be a crappy Medium in my opinion.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Ok, I'm still a little confused.

She has to actually touch something/someone to teleport it. Then what's up with the disks? Or do you mean by disks the teleportation portals? She doesn't create portals? She has to physically touch something?

Sorry, I said disks but I meant portals. It's basically just an aura to show she's teleporting, nothing specific. There's never been shown any physical attributes to it. Mostly just pink light. She can't cut with it like Illyana Rasputin or anything.

And she teleports in two ways. One way is just covering an area and everything teleports. No picking or choosing, everyone. And yes, she can do long distance but I don't see how that'd be an issue in this game where we battle on location.

The second way is by touching. In order to teleport someone or pieces of someone she has to physically touch the person to do it. Just like with Nightcrawler, only she can be a bit more creative with it.

And of course, she can just teleport herself like any other teleporter.

 

[Nightwing]

Yeah I have to admit I think Blink is just a reg...Deadpool and Nightcrawler can both teleport and they are regs...same with Proctor too isnt he a teleporter with a whole list of powers to boot and an indestructible sword and he's still a reg?

I think Blink is a long way off being medium

But thats my opinion

 

[AnnoyingSilence]

Who says that anything about Nightcrawler is a Medium?

no one....

if you can't "comprende", i was pointing out the most basic of teleporters

Illyana Rasputin is a Regular and she has not only the teleportation but also some good magical deals(her magic is weak and her disk swallow everything in it).

Exiles/AoA Blink is a regular and she can do all my Blink can do and more(pretty much the same person thats under question....).

Pixie is a stronger teleporter and she's barely a Regular.(i don't know anything about her)

And yes she's quick but it's not split second. She has to appear beside you and then touch you.(whats not split second about that?)

And when she does whole areas, it's the whole area. She can't just pick and choose who gets taken. She's very inexperienced.(whats inexperience when shes teleporting to protection and teleporting everyones limbs off)

And if all you can think of that can beat her is a precog then you're not very creative(personal attacks now).

I mean, I think I've written her defeated or killed off in nearly every, if not every, write up that I've done, and only one of those battles involved a precog. It's not too difficult.(your right, its not hard to write-off someone as being stabbed in the back or shot in the head from afar or invisibly)

and i concede. shes a reg.

 

[AnnoyingSilence]

Yeah I have to admit I think Blink is just a reg...Deadpool and Nightcrawler can both teleport and they are regs...same with Proctor too isnt he a teleporter with a whole list of powers to boot and an indestructible sword and he's still a reg?

your WAY off.

DeadPool? Proctor?.. thier teleporters?.. not.

only to thier bases(using devices) and never rapidly...
And i think everyone needs to read the storyline, as JH will confirm that proctor does NOT have teleparthy.

Only through the Gan-jin was he able to drive Sersi insane... INSANE!. Not even then could he control her.

 

[wiegeabo]

Proctor doesn't have telepathy. But he can screw with the chemicals in your brain, do things like cause you extreme pain.

 

[wiegeabo]

Proctor doesn't have telepathy. But he can screw with the chemicals in your brain, do things like cause you extreme pain.

 

[Nightwing]

I never said he had telepathy I said teleporting...anyway another reg who teleports at a rapid speed and has other powers to boot which put him above Blink is Death Wolverine...

 

[AnnoyingSilence]

I never said he had telepathy I said teleporting...

yes... and they don't...

and please take it in people, but the Proctors telepathy was a second subject(clarifying the charater. because in both me and JH's understanding, is that the league thought he had ACTUAL telepathy).

 

[Nightwing]

If you look here this states he has both telepathy and access to teleportational devices and technology...so yes he is a teleporter...

 

[wiegeabo]

Time to talk about rankings. I'm just going to start at the top and go through each team one at a time. JH is the first on the hot seat.

Onslaught (Magneto/Xavier) (MU)
Vulcan (MU)
Sinestro (DU)
Ultraman (DU)
Magneto (Fatal Attractions) (MM)
Domina (MU) 1, 2[/b]
New Son (MM)
Dr. Light (DM)
Proctor (MR)
Blink (MR)
Deathstroke (DR)
Prometheus (DR)

Issues
So, the only issue I really have is with Onslaught. I really can't tell what his power level is supposed to be like. He seems to be on both sides of the tuber bar, and it's made all the more confusing because it's apparently the second version of the character, but bios I've looked at focus on the first version.

Questions
What should Domina's rank be? I find her powerset confusing, and I know she's been a middleweight at different times. But I think she was bumped up to uber.

New Son. Another character that could be on the border of uber with the level of his powers. Although, given other ubers in this thing, probably not.

Dr. Light. Probably belongs as a med, but now that he's not a loser anymore (before dying), he seemed to be able to handle the (Teen) Titans pretty well.

Proctor. Top notch reg, or good med?

Prmetheus. Another top notch reg or good med.

 

[AnnoyingSilence]

Onsluahgt the way i understand it, is that he ONLY has xavier's and magneto's powers. no melee threat(except to a reg(in which point i'd say wolvy'd tear him up))

Domina. is possibly a reg. I know, her power set LOOKS threatening, but they seem to be on small lvls AND she can use only one at a time AND (which is a mote point because we DO treat them differently)perfers hand to hand combat. even with her base powers(peak human everything and her constructs(which in her 4 appearances used twice))

NewSon: strong Medium. only has the only power AND human durability

Dr. Light... thats tough. he took a beaten from superboy and wondergirl, takes(not as his own power) SB's eye beams and WG's lasso lightning, explodes the beam, but loses concentration(and the lightning) in a fight AND hes got a MEAN light explosion... Vic was the only to defeat him by absorbing solar energy... Medium

proctor is a reg. his telepathy is extemely limited(the only people he was ever able to effect was his own alternate version, people in his gathering(which is stated that he had power over them) and sersi(gan-jin?)) and (since NW brought it out) the only telepotation he EVER DOES is to his base and back

bumping prometheis up is like bumping forge up(except forge can make things in the mist of battle)

 

[wiegeabo]

I wonder about the sheer number and variety of powers she has access to. The intensity of those abilities, and if she can even access them without those members of the Neo around her.

 

[AnnoyingSilence]

1 power at a time(which she wouldn't have much exp with them), but she really doesn't even use her own powers. the neo's are basically melee. i won't worry about the other powers, like i said, she barely uses her own

 

[Nightwing]

Time to talk about rankings. I'm just going to start at the top and go through each team one at a time. JH is the first on the hot seat.

Onslaught (Magneto/Xavier) (MU)
Vulcan (MU)
Sinestro (DU)
Ultraman (DU)
Magneto (Fatal Attractions) (MM)
Domina (MU) 1, 2[/b]
New Son (MM)
Dr. Light (DM)
Proctor (MR)
Blink (MR)
Deathstroke (DR)
Prometheus (DR)

Issues
So, the only issue I really have is with Onslaught. I really can't tell what his power level is supposed to be like. He seems to be on both sides of the tuber bar, and it's made all the more confusing because it's apparently the second version of the character, but bios I've looked at focus on the first version.

Questions
What should Domina's rank be? I find her powerset confusing, and I know she's been a middleweight at different times. But I think she was bumped up to uber.

New Son. Another character that could be on the border of uber with the level of his powers. Although, given other ubers in this thing, probably not.

Dr. Light. Probably belongs as a med, but now that he's not a loser anymore (before dying), he seemed to be able to handle the (Teen) Titans pretty well.

Proctor. Top notch reg, or good med?

Domina - if the power list could be posted then we could get a proper understanding

New Son I see him as a Medium...Gambit with enhanced powers was a medium and he could do pretty much what New Son can with kinetic energy so id say stick at Med....

Prmetheus. Another top notch reg or good med.

Ok so lets see

Prometheus I would keep at a regular...He's just a very skilled hand to hand fighter, nothing much to push him out of the regs ranks...most fighting regs can still take him

Proctor again I would keep at reg...he''s an evil Black Knight with a few extra goodies but nothing to make people worry about his ranking

Dr.Light now at first I was thinking reg but from what I gathered (especially from the BN arc) he is very skilled with the light creating constructs etc which is similar to the skills of a GL. I personally would place this guy at a Med...maybe even Uber.

 

[wiegeabo]

And don't let my questions or issues stop any of you from bringing up your own about those or other characters.

Because it's fun to pick on the Jew.

 

[JewishHobbit]

double post

 

[JewishHobbit]

Oh it's like I'm in 1943 again

Okay, here's some of my thoughts on the characters:

Onslaught - This is the first version of Onslaught. He IS Xavier but with Magneto's powers in addition, and with Magneto's mindset about mutant supremecy. The major powerlevels came later once he absorbed Franklin Richards, and then later Nate Grey. He's very easy to figure out. Xavier's powers... Magneto's powers... oh, and oddly he also has telekinesis, though I'm not sure why because it's from neither Xavier or Magneto.

I think he's an awesome Uber, but that's it. He can be physically assaulted, as was shown by Iceman, Cyclops, etc. The Fantastic Four issue showed thatXavier is still within the armor (and this was later echoed when Xavier was broken out of it by Thor).

I've shown in every write up but one that had him in it that he can be defeated, and in most situations by regs if I'm not mistaken.

Dr. Light - This one is a strong Medium for me but I can see the argument to make him an Uber. I'm just worried that he'd fall into the same category as Crystal at that point. A great character with great powers, but worthless at the powerlevel they're cast at. He's a great Medium, but I don't know if it'd be worth it to class him an Uber. He'd be a pretty weak one. And my personal opinion is that if classifying someone as an uber pretty much keeps people from picking up the character as it's a waste of a slot, theys should probably be kept as a powerful Medium. I kinda feel the same about New Sun. Great Medium... kinda crappy uber.

Proctor and Prometheus are both Regs all the way. No question.


Now, I've been rooting through Domina's appearances and I think she might still be Uber, though it's possible she could be a Medium. My initial thought was that she could only use one power at a time, but after looking through the comics I see at least twice when she's using more than one power simoultaneously. The first is when she was using Anteus's strength while fighitng Colossus also Scramble's power to screw up Psylocke and Cecelia's assets. Not long after that she's using Salvo's ability to create weapons from her hands, while using someone else's powers to neutralize the mutants's powers.

And whiel I thought she was more melee, and she is, she readily uses the other powers WHILE melee attacking. She really is a tank. Add the fact that she can use more than one power at once, I think Uber's a good place for her. I have a feel she'd just be too much as a Medium. If she only used powers one at a time like I originally thought I'd say Medium, but since she can use more than that, I say Uber. But if people still feel that she'd make a better top notch medium then I'm all for it.

 

[wiegeabo]

So, except for Domina, I'm not seeing any reason to change rankings. I do wonder if absorbing mutants is still one of Onslaught's powers, though. And what that could mean.

Domina is sounding like a Med except for two things. I'm not quite sure what her energy weave power is. And, more importantly, her bio says that she can borrow all the powers of the Warclan to create a super-powered gestalt. Not only am I unsure what that means, but, whatever it means, it sounds like she actually can call upon more than one power at a time.

 

[wiegeabo]

While we're still debating JewHob's team, it's time for the next team on our list to get a look. Mine.

Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner) (DU)
Captain Atom (DU)
Superman (DU)
Flash (Wally West) (DU)
Shanzar (MU)
Exodus (MU)
Blue Beetle (Jaimie Reyes) (DM)
Silver Sorceress (DM)
Iron Spidey (MR)
Deadline (DR)
Boy Blue (DR)
Batman (Dick Grayson) (DR)


Nothing immediately stands out as being a ranking problem to me. Any issues guys?

 

[JewishHobbit]

Domina is sounding like a Med except for two things. I'm not quite sure what her energy weave power is. And, more importantly, her bio says that she can borrow all the powers of the Warclan to create a super-powered gestalt. Not only am I unsure what that means, but, whatever it means, it sounds like she actually can call upon more than one power at a time.

From what I could see she could basically make a net or lasso type of thing out of energy. It's nothing major. I don't know about it's strength but I don't think it's anything overly impressive.

As for the "super-powered gestalt" basically she just has tons of powers to pull from, all of which listed in the link I provided. And yeah, from what I saw she can pull from more than one at a time.

 

[Nightwing]

While we're still debating JewHob's team, it's time for the next team on our list to get a look. Mine.

Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner) (DU)
Captain Atom (DU)
Superman (DU)
Flash (Wally West) (DU)
Shanzar (MU)
Exodus (MU)
Blue Beetle (Jaimie Reyes) (DM)
Silver Sorceress (DM)
Iron Spidey (MR)
Deadline (DR)
Boy Blue (DR)
Batman (Dick Grayson) (DR)


Nothing immediately stands out as being a ranking problem to me. Any issues guys?

Oh where to begin...

They should all be one rank above what they are

Nah I agree I see no real issues with any of these characters.

 

[wiegeabo]

Nah I agree I see no real issues with any of these characters.

That's because I'm not a trouble maker

 

[AnnoyingSilence]

boy blue: The Witching Cloak acts as Blue's impregnable armor, it cannot not be burned, stretched or ripped, it provides endless personal carrying capacity, and it allows a large degree of shape-shifting and teleportation. with the vopal sword that can cut through anything

ironspidey: invisibility, precognitive senses(his spider-sense allows him to dodge almost any attack, even gunfire at point blank), super str, agility and durability, multiple types of vision, shapeshifting, webs, gliding(which when dropped from a distance might as well be flight), audio visual amplification