E3 2014 - Part 1

[Soapy]

Were you alive in the 80's and early 90's? Because I assure you, it worked.

Nintendo was the biggest fish in the pond back then. Now they're the smallest.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Nintendo was the biggest fish in the pond back then. Now they're the smallest.

Gee, I wonder why. Maybe it's because they made a system no one wants to develop for?

A system so underpowered, even their own games will be inferior to what they could be on a more powerful system.

 

[Benstamania]

Yeah.. Who else were these 3rd party devs going to develop for? Sega?Lololol.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Nintendo was the only real player on the market back then. Sega wasn't actual competition.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Yeah.. Who else were these 3rd party devs going to develop for? Sega?Lololol.

It's not like there was a console war or anything...

 

[Benstamania]

Gee, I wonder why. Maybe it's because they made a system no one wants to develop for?

A system so underpowered, even their own games will be inferior to what they could be on a more powerful system.

Give it a year. If Nintendo pushes out a lot of Nintendo only games and they market it right. A LOT of homes will have a WiiU. Hell those figures alone will sell systems to homes with Skylanders obsessed kids.

 

[Benstamania]

It's not like there was a console war or anything...

There wasn't really. Once the SNES hit the Genesis was an after thought. I didn't know anyone with one.

 

[Benstamania]

Nintendo was the only real player on the market back then. Sega wasn't actual competition.

Yup.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Oh modern Nintendo fans. Enjoy last place.

Let me know how Watch Dogs is in winter.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Prior to the release of the Playstation, Nintendo was gaming. There was no actual competition. Once Smash Bros, the new Zelda hit the Wii U will be fine. MK8 sold incredibly well. They've got a new Star Fox on the way too, which will definitely be a seller. Throw in a new 3D Mario game a la Galaxy and the Wii U will be exactly where Nintendo wants it.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Oh modern Nintendo fans. Enjoy last place.

Let me know how Watch Dogs is in winter.

Oh noes. I can't play a mediocre game on my Wii U. Played it on the PS4, Wii U owners aren't missing anything.

 

[Thundercrack85]

There wasn't really. Once the SNES hit the Genesis was an after thought. I didn't know anyone with one.

You do realize that they sold 40 million of them right? Nintendo would be lucky to get half that with the Wii U.

 

[Havok83]

While I think many of you have good points, I think you guys are underselling Sega and the Genesis. That system had alot of support and it did do well. I dont think its quite fair to say they werent competition. They were during that gen.

 

[Soapy]

Gee, I wonder why. Maybe it's because they made a system no one wants to develop for?

A system so underpowered, even their own games will be inferior to what they could be on a more powerful system.

Inferior perhaps if the only thing you value in games is raw graphical fidelity.

Even still, if that's all you're looking for, I would argue that Nintendo's supposedly inferior games on the Wii U rival anything comparable you're seeing on PS4 and XBone.

Oh modern Nintendo fans. Enjoy last place.

Let me know how Watch Dogs is in winter.

Thundercrack confirmed for mad.

 

[Soapy]

While I think many of you have good points, I think you guys are underselling Sega and the Genesis. That system had alot of support and it did do well. I dont think its quite fair to say they werent competition. They were during that gen.

This. Say what you want about everything Sega did after the Genesis (except Dreamcast, talk **** about that and I'LL FIGHT YOU), but the Genesis was legit.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I think they do now. But in a year? Two years?

There's more to it than graphics, but the Wii U is a 7th gen console, only with more limited online capabilities. In a year, even run in the mill PS4 / Xbone games will blow away Nintendo games in graphics. Not to mention online play.

I really can't see how people can defend this console. It's a mistake.

I think Nintendo should ride it out, but people here pretending like third party support is irrelevant, are just out of touch with reality.

 

[Matt Mortem]

We all know a game is only a game if it has online and good graphics.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I've played games online with the Wii U and have had no problems. MK8 online is a blast

 

[Poetic Chaos]

You can't be a relevant first option without GTA or Elder Scrolls.

 

[Thundercrack85]

We all know a game is only a game if it has online and good graphics.

Doesn't hurt.

Nor does having a powerful console that can do more.

 

[Thundercrack85]

You can't be a relevant first option without GTA or Elder Scrolls.

Apparently Nintendo's new business strategy is being "that other console you buy".

 

[Matt Mortem]

Doesn't hurt.

Nor does having a powerful console that can do more.

So what was the gaming industry before PS4 graphics and Xbox Live?

 

[Thundercrack85]

So what was the gaming industry before PS4 graphics and Xbox Live?

PS3 graphics and... Xbox Live?

 

[Matt Mortem]

PS3 graphics and... Xbox Live?

My point is there were amazing games being made before hyper HD graphics and online play. Online is actually hurting gaming IMO. Online co-op and multiplayer is added to sell more consoles. Nintendo is at least still supporting local multiplayer because they know people actually *gasp* like to play a game in the same room as others. Online play and great graphics do not mean a game is great.

 

[Benstamania]

My point is there were amazing games being made before hyper HD graphics and online play. Online is actually hurting gaming IMO. Online co-op and multiplayer is added to sell more consoles. Nintendo is at least still supporting local multiplayer because they know people actually *gasp* like to play a game in the same room as others. Online play and great graphics do not mean a game is great.

I'm pretty much OUT of online competitive MP and I agree with you that it's hurting games... I've grown to understand that I can not, for the most part, stand the people that play games online. They tend to be the BIGGEST group of *****e bags on the planet. Give me online co-op with friends in a game like Diablo or couch co-op or *gasp* single player only stuff.