Ant-Man Edgar Wright's Ant-Man

[Joeyjojo72]

Why are they stuck on Scott Lang? Whats the attraction? If they go with Pym, they still have the option of including him as an Avenger down the road.

Frankly, I'd rather they do a Hank Pym movie, and give him the ability to both shrink and grow via his Pym particles. But I'm probably in the minority. I just don't think shrinking to the size of an ant is very practicle. A remote control nanobot would be a helluva lot simpler and safer.

On second thought, I dont really care about the character much anyway. He doesnt seem fit with the other Marvel heroes, and his scientific skills are redundant.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Why are they stuck on Scott Lang? Whats the attraction? If they go with Pym, they still have the option of including him as an Avenger down the road.

Frankly, I'd rather they do a Hank Pym movie, and give him the ability to both shrink and grow via his Pym particles. But I'm probably in the minority. I just don't think shrinking to the size of an ant is very practicle. A remote control nanobot would be a helluva lot simpler and safer.

On second thought, I dont really care about the character much anyway. He doesnt seem fit with the other Marvel heroes, and his scientific skills are redundant.

I want Pym over Lang too so you're not alone.

 

[Belvedere]

Everyone but Edgar Wright wants Pym.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Finally .

Okay, these two reactions got me for some reason. Probably it's because it's still freaking Ant Man.

But the footage sounded cool and I really dig the logo. Hopefully Wright can make this work and I will be happy to be wrong.

 

[louiebling$]

About God DAMN Time!

 

[HighFivingMF]

If they go with Pym, they still have the option of including him as an Avenger down the road.

You know who else they can put in Avengers? Anyone they want. Including Lang.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think Scott Lang's To Steal an Ant-Man story for the movie's basis can work. I too prefer Pym, but I can live with Scott Lang.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Lang by the comic book lore is an electrical engineer, which is by far Tony Stark's domain. Thus, I would rather welcome the natural scientist Hank Pym than Scott Lang.

 

[Belvedere]

Of course, those expecting Lang (including myself) might have jumped the gun mightily and Wright may have tricked us all.

That's what's happening here right, guys? Right?

 

[Aztec]

I'm surprised they didn't announce the date for this but appears to be 2015 before Avengers 2. Thus in Phase Two.

I've been critical of the concept of this film before but now I'm all in. I truly trust Marvel. They just seem to truly know what they are doing. Perhaps releasing the test footage on the internet will extra persuade me? LOL

Bring on Phase Two!

 

[VictusMortuus]

I know the Wright really wants to do the story with Lang in the present and Pym in the past. But I think it's highly likely that Marvel will force him to put Pym and Janet in the present and probably putting more focus on them too.

I think it will be something like...

Pym has just discovered the "Pym Particles," and with the help of his robotic assistant builds a prototype suit to shrink. I realize a lot of people will compare that to Stark and JARVIS, but Pym's ULTRON aide would not really have any personality and be a little more sophisticated, smarter.

Lang has just been released from prison and he is in desperate need of money so his daughter can have surgery, so he decides to break into Pym's home, and steals the prototype suit. After toying with it he figures out how to shrink, and goes on a bank robbing spree.

Pym meanwhile is contacted by SHIELD informing him that he is the only person with the ability to find and stop the bank robber dubbed "Ant-Man." Agreeing to help SHIELD Pym goes home and with ULTRON creates another upgraded suit, this one with the ability to grow giant as well as small, and inspired by the medias name for Lang installs a device allowing him to control ants. He locates Lang from the energy the suit emits and goes after him.

That's would be a decent first half. Throw in Wasp of course, he could modify her to help him take down Lang, or when they eventually team up with Lang.

 

[cherokeesam]

I know the Wright really wants to do the story with Lang in the present and Pym in the past. But I think it's highly likely that Marvel will force him to put Pym and Janet in the present and probably putting more focus on them too.

I think it will be something like...

Pym has just discovered the "Pym Particles," and with the help of his robotic assistant builds a prototype suit to shrink. I realize a lot of people will compare that to Stark and JARVIS, but Pym's ULTRON aide would not really have any personality and be a little more sophisticated, smarter.

Lang has just been released from prison and he is in desperate need of money so his daughter can have surgery, so he decides to break into Pym's home, and steals the prototype suit. After toying with it he figures out how to shrink, and goes on a bank robbing spree.

Pym meanwhile is contacted by SHIELD informing him that he is the only person with the ability to find and stop the bank robber dubbed "Ant-Man." Agreeing to help SHIELD Pym goes home and with ULTRON creates another upgraded suit, this one with the ability to grow giant as well as small, and inspired by the medias name for Lang installs a device allowing him to control ants. He locates Lang from the energy the suit emits and goes after him.

That's would be a decent first half. Throw in Wasp of course, he could modify her to help him take down Lang, or when they eventually team up with Lang.

If Marvel *forces* Wright to do *anything,* you can damn sure bet that Ant-Man will never see the light of day. In any form beyond cartoons.

Making a young Scott Lang Ant-Man with an older Hank Pym mentor still makes sense, and still opens the door for BOTH to take their rightful places in the Avengers. I'm all for this approach. I just hope to hell Wright/Marvel Studios doesn't neglect Wasp, because she needs to be part of this as much as Pym and Lang.

 

[VictusMortuus]

I phrased it poorly, I think Marvel and Wright would come to mutual agreement and switch the time around without compromising any integral plot points.
Also the relationship with Pym and Wasp should be played out like the one in Shaun of The Dead. Wasp and Pym break up in the beginning due to Pym being so obsessed with his work and his robots, and they get together midway through to take down and team up with Lang, and at the end are back in a relationship.

 

[Quasimod0]

So is it not gonna be pym in this movie? How do we know that?

 

[BatsDC]

I'm cool with Lang stealing the Ant Man gear, as long as Pym still has a prominent role in the film and isn't 60+.

 

[cherokeesam]

So is it not gonna be pym in this movie? How do we know that?

It's not for certain. But early drafts of the script definitely focused on Lang, with Pym as an older Ant-Man from the 60s who Lang stole the costume from.

The fact that Wright came out tonight displaying that particular Marvel Premiere issue about Lang, which Wright has always said his story is based around, pretty much seals the deal, afaik.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

The 1960s were fifty years ago. If Hank Pym was an active hero and scientist in his thirties back then, he'd be in his EIGHTIES now. Statistically ready to just drop dead.

Aging Pym would be a bad choice. If they want to focus on Lang (also an odd choice), can't they have Lang steal Pym's suit while retaining Pym's age and physical condition? Wouldn't that leave the door open to dual Ant-Men, an Avengers team-up, as well as all the other characters related to Pym such as the Wasp and Ultron? It seems so arbitrary to age him like that. It's not even that I'm a big Hank Pym fan, but I'm aware that he has a lot of histor behind him. I'm uneasy with a movie just tossing him aside and changing things like that.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

The 1960s were fifty years ago. If Hank Pym was an active hero and scientist in his thirties back then, he'd be in his EIGHTIES now. Statistically ready to just drop dead.

Aging Pym would be a bad choice. If they want to focus on Lang (also an odd choice), can't they have Lang steal Pym's suit while retaining Pym's age and physical condition? Wouldn't that leave the door open to dual Ant-Men, an Avengers team-up, as well as all the other characters related to Pym such as the Wasp and Ultron? It seems so arbitrary to age him like that. It's not even that I'm a big Hank Pym fan, but I'm aware that he has a lot of histor behind him. I'm uneasy with a movie just tossing him aside and changing things like that.

Until there's an synopsis of the film and cast/character listing, we don't know which way Marvel is letting Wright take Ant Man in his movie debut.

 

[Captain Marvel]

Yeah, using the story doesn't mean that he's copying it lock, stock, and barrel. It could be based on a Lang story while starring Pym. And honestly, that's the way I'd prefer it. There's no need to complicate things with two different Ant-Men. Just take whatever traits you like about Lang, apply them to Pym, and there you go. There's no reason Pym can't be a funnier guy. Hell, it'd work with him given all his other hangups. Personally I'm all for a dysfunctional superhero with a ton of hangups (So long as none of them involve hitting Janet, at least. He hit her ONE time, which is the EXACT same number of times Spider-Man hit Mary Jane. That's hardly a character defining characteristic. And if it is, then I want to see Pete knock Mary Jane's teeth out in the next Spider-Man movie).

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Yeah, using the story doesn't mean that he's copying it lock, stock, and barrel. It could be based on a Lang story while starring Pym. And honestly, that's the way I'd prefer it. There's no need to complicate things with two different Ant-Men. Just take whatever traits you like about Lang, apply them to Pym, and there you go. There's no reason Pym can't be a funnier guy. Hell, it'd work with him given all his other hangups. Personally I'm all for a dysfunctional superhero with a ton of hangups (So long as none of them involve hitting Janet, at least. He hit her ONE time, which is the EXACT same number of times Spider-Man hit Mary Jane. That's hardly a character defining characteristic. And if it is, then I want to see Pete knock Mary Jane's teeth out in the next Spider-Man movie).

I thought it was implied he had hit her more than once in incidents not shown in the comics. If not, than his reputation as a woman abuser is somewhat overblown.

 

[Captain Marvel]

Nope, just the one time, and it was after he'd gone a bit crazy and built a robot to attack the Avengers. It was in the Ultimate comics where he hit her on a consistent basis, but that was an alternate universe where Hulk was a cannibal, Thor was an enviornmentalist hippy who no one believed was really a god, Captain America was a rightwing nut, and Black Widow was a traitor who sold the team out.

In other words, it's hardly reflective of the actual Marvel Universe.

 

[Spider-Vader]

It seems like Marvel doesn't want to interfere with this movie (hence why it's taken so long JUST to get test footage), but they need to step in & tell Wright to make the movie about Pym.

But besides that, I'm game for this movie. This movie has the potential to have some amazing & unique action scenes. I really wish I could have seen the test footage.

 

[Captain Marvel]

It could be that it's taken this long because of numerous changes made from the original drift. No film gets filmed off the first draft, after all. A lot of things have changed since the day back when Ant-Man was first announced and Edgar Wright was stated to be attached to it. God knows how many changes have been made to the original script since then.

 

[Hawkingbird]

W....what footage :l ?

 

[Saitou Hajime]

The test footage descriptions remind me of "The Man in the Ant Hill" from EMH.