Ant-Man Edgar Wright's Ant-Man

[Lord]

Why do we need an "ACTUAL" Ant-Man film? Disney has ABC Family, so why not put together a TV movie. That way Ant-Man exists in the MCU and the character wouldn't need an origin story by the time Avengers 2 happens.

An Ant-Man theatrical release would flop, but I think a TV movie could do well.

Why? Because Edgar Wright wants to do it

 

[chiefchirpa]

Ant Man could certainly made to be a romantic, beauty and the geek movie.

 

[ironmaidenrules]

I think ant man would be a bit too serious and would require too much effects for abc family. Think a more attractive and slightly more adjusted doctor venture. rare to see a hero that doesn't want to be a hero and then becomes a hero and then ****s everything up with robots

 

[babykhris]

where in comic book history did you get the notion that Antman is a kiddy superhero that deserves a Disney show?

I'll wait.

I did not say to make it a Disney show or a kiddy superhero. I said why not make it a TV movie. They are cheaper to make and would get the character out there before Avengers 2.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Pym is not TV material. He belongs to the big screen.

 

[MarvelKnight]

Ant-Man is one mentally effed good guy. Definitely has to be big-screen material, or at the very least an HBO,Starz, or showtime type of movie. which most likely wouldn't happen.

 

[DrCosmic]

Why do we need an "ACTUAL" Ant-Man film? Disney has ABC Family, so why not put together a TV movie. That way Ant-Man exists in the MCU and the character wouldn't need an origin story by the time Avengers 2 happens.

An Ant-Man theatrical release would flop, but I think a TV movie could do well.

The point of a big theatrical release is to get everyone (not just DisneyPhiles) familiar with and excited about the character. If the goal was 'just getting him out there' they could write a book, or do a cartoon. It has to be big, or he's not ready to be in a team up movie.

Ant Man could certainly made to be a romantic, beauty and the geek movie.

I've said this several times. It caters to a wider demo and is cheaper to make.

Pym is not TV material. He belongs to the big screen.

By what standard? His powers are one of the few that is easily doable on Tv.

Ant-Man is one mentally effed good guy. Definitely has to be big-screen material, or at the very least an HBO,Starz, or showtime type of movie. which most likely wouldn't happen.

I dislike the psycho/wifebeater version of Pym. I like him how he is in the 616 comics, as opposed to the Ultimate universe.

 

[marcvader]

I like the way he's done EMH as a pacifist and reluctant hero but I also like him as the trying to find his niche on the team type with all the different identities as well. These characteristics he has are best suited in the team setting and that's why I really want to see him in an Avengers movie someday.

 

[babykhris]

I'm sorry but Ant Man as a TV movie makes sense. If Ant Man was a theatrical release I think it would flop big time.

For all those wanting a big screen version sell it to me. Who is the villain? It's not going to be Ultron that would be an Avengers villain. Just make it make sense to me.

 

[MarvelKnight]

Well, he did have chemically induced schizophrenia in 616 universe. , not that I want to argue, just saying .

And I don't think Marvel would ever delve into the wifebeater aspect of the Ultimate Pym. However, you can't "disneyfy" him either. I think you can find a happy medium though, to at least show the cracks in the armor.

Maybe taking a cue from EMH and hating all the violence, plus creating a robot that wants to vaporize all of humanity. I just think completely ignoring it would be a mistake is all. Even if they do the bare minimum, do it well. He is a hero, but he still has demons.

 

[DrCosmic]

Interesting. Didn't know about the Schizoid stuff. He has his demons they try to give him, yes, but I like him best with his EMH arc. He's someone who's out of his depth. He has to figure out how to cope with that. He's not a great superhero, but he has to be a superhero anyway. That's fresh to me, and is the only way I know of to make him likeable and give him contrast with the other Sci-fi biologists and technologists on the squad.

I'm sorry but Ant Man as a TV movie makes sense. If Ant Man was a theatrical release I think it would flop big time.

For all those wanting a big screen version sell it to me. Who is the villain? It's not going to be Ultron that would be an Avengers villain. Just make it make sense to me.

What would be the point of a TV movie? And Loki is an Avengers villain, he's also a deeply personal Thor villain, so the right way to handle him was create him during the Thor movie, and then have him all uber and badass during the Avengers. Ultron could/should be done the same way. Here's how I'd do it.

The pitch: Hank Pym is a loser. He's brilliant, so he has a bunch of almost-working half-finished inventions that he can't quite sell. An AI robot sidekick called "Ultimate Electronics," a helmet that controls bugs, some particles that can change the mass of inorganic matter, a world monitoring system called VISION, other stuff, but he's losing his research grants, he has no game, constantly rejected, and his only friend, fellow scientist Bill Foster, wants to go back to normal jobs. Nick Fury stops by, not to recruit him, but to tell him to stop his dangerous experiments. He is, in a word "The Poor Man's Tony Stark." It sucks to be him, but he's got so much potential, y'know?

Then a chance meeting comes, and Pym ends up at a big soire and meets Janet Van Dyne, a socialite, fashion designer and impeccable business woman. A perfect ten. It turns out her father had similar research and she brings it by his dilapidated labs/office to let him see it, and sees potential in the place. She helps him sell his ant control invention (the trademark helmet) and with the late Dr. Van Dyne's research (stored in Jan's wing-laden DNA), Pym actually gets the Pym Particles to work. Janet designs costumes, and Pym becomes a real live superhero. Of course, now everyone wants his stuff. Janet Van Dyne meets a new suitor, who turns out to be a merc named Paladin, trying to get close to the tech, thieves Scott Lang and Eric O'Grady try to steal the particles, and things just start to go wrong for Pym.

The power and fame goes to his head, and Pym turns arrogant, spanks Paladin thoroughly but loses Jan, and public support. It's only when he's down and out that he realizes that his computer is at fault, that this "Ultron" has been manipulating Pym's life, trying to take his place. When Pym shows him this isn't possible, Ultron decides to go postal, captures shrunken Jan, shuts down the city and goes on a rampage, ordering the military's computer-guided systems to attack Giant Man. Bill Foster shows up, also giant, to help distract Ultron, Pym shrinks, reunites with Jan, using her stingers and his ant control devices they actually take down Ultron from the inside before SHIELD shows up.

We last see Scott and Eric accidentally shrunken inside Pym's labs. We last see Hank and Jan riding off into the sunset together on something hilariously tiny. After the credits, Ultron is in SHIELD containment and his eyes light up, and he begins to list his next targets, all of the Avengers...

 

[HellBound]

May need a creative title change, but I hope Antman gets the green light real soon

 

[marcvader]

Was liking your story Cosmic, a lot actually, till you got to Ultron.

 

[DrCosmic]

^Yeah... that part needs work. I thought I had it, then it just slipped out from under me.

 

[MarvelKnight]

Yeah, that, at least from what I know, is how he comes up with Yellowjacket. Sort of a separate personality where he'd take all the chances (asking janet to marry him and what not) that he wouldn't normally.

I like what you are trying to do though with your story. The EMH was a nice take on the character though. I just think you can go a little grittier on the silver screen. Edgar Wright is great, I think he'll do Pym justice.

I just can't figure out how if it's going to take place in the 60s that he'd translate to the current avengers. Unless they do 2 separate movies at some point. Wright's and then one that ties in with the MCU they have. Maybe they use a different Ant-Man? Would be a last resort but you never know.

 

[MarvelKnight]

I kind of like the concept. I thought about that too with Ultron. Sort of setting things in motion that they can't figure out. I thought maybe leave the Ant-Man movie as sort of a cliffhanger, and start A2 with pym and Janet enlisting the help of the Avengers, and then Stark figures out its Ultron trying to set himself up for his Extinction protocol or whatever they want to call it. It'd be a nice way to get them into the Avengers (even if it isn't official at the start) they face the big bad and try to stop global extinction (maybe take a cue from Ultron EMH episode) I'd love to see how they would do the graphics for ultrons self-repair

 

[cherokeesam]

I'd be willing to bet that Marvel has leaned on Wright and Cornish to have Ant-Man focus on Hank Pym, not Scott Lang, and not do the 1960s mentor thing that the first draft described. The logical thing to do would be to make an Ant-Man movie about Hank and Janet in modern times, and integrate them into an Avengers sequel immediately after.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I hope not. I'd rather it not have anything to do with Avengers if that meant the best movie possible.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Avengers 2 could mean subtracting Iron Man and Black Widow, and adding Pym/Van Dyne.

 

[The Morningstar]

I dislike the psycho/wifebeater version of Pym. I like him how he is in the 616 comics, as opposed to the Ultimate universe.

He hit his wife in the 616 comics too. Millar took that into the Ultimate universe and made it more extreme though.

He is constantly trying to make up for all his faults, like creating Ultron and hitting Jan. That is part of his character. He's guilt plagued, even though he wasn't fully responsible for his actions, and feels he can never make up for it, but keeps striving to do that anyway. That's why he is awesome.

 

[cherokeesam]

I hope not. I'd rather it not have anything to do with Avengers if that meant the best movie possible.

But considering that Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne are known almost *exclusively* as Avengers characters (you can count the number of "solo" titles devoted to either character on the fingers of one hand), then yes, it's crucial that they are integrated into the team that they're actually associated with. It'd be like making solo movies of Cannonball or Dani Moonstar or Sunspot and *not* making them part of a New Mutants movie.

 

[MarvelKnight]

They won't be subtracting Iron Man from the Avengers anytime soon, until at least after the third. IM3 will be just like IM1 in that it will get the ball rolling with the next round of sequels leading into number 2. I'm pretty sure the whole main Avengers cast each have 6 picture deals (IM, Cap and Thor for sure) 3 "solo" movies and 3 avengers movies.

It'd be sweet to see the Iron Man armor have space-flight ability in A2.

 

[MarvelKnight]

Yeah, if you're not going to include Giant Man and Wasp in this incarnation of the team, fine, but then I wouldn't have them in the MCU at all. You can't have them out there on the silver screen and not have them apart of the avengers. Like Cherokee said, they are pretty much exclusive to the avengers.

 

[cherokeesam]

They won't be subtracting Iron Man from the Avengers anytime soon, until at least after the third. IM3 will be just like IM1 in that it will get the ball rolling with the next round of sequels leading into number 2. I'm pretty sure the whole main Avengers cast each have 6 picture deals (IM, Cap and Thor for sure) 3 "solo" movies and 3 avengers movies.

It'd be sweet to see the Iron Man armor have space-flight ability in A2.

I'm thinkin' you might not have to wait any later than this May to see Iron Man in space-capable armor....

 

[rayc1971]

i want to see ant man but looks like it aint hapening anytime soon! wright is going to film night stalker with johnny depp now!