Ending of One More Day?

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Why are people NOT ok with this?

Because it's unwritable, my good Captain.

Think seriously for a moment about everything that's happened since that walk in the park where MJ first told Pete she'd always known... all the adventures... all the crossovers. If this rumor is true, it changes reality not just for Pete and MJ but for everyone in 616.

"Hey, Reed remember that time we... huh... yeah, me neither..."

Hundreds of issues, countless changes... there's no way to keep up with it! Who will know (from the reader's perspective) what actually happened and what didn't?

THAT'S IT!!

THAT is JQ's diabolical plan! Now NO ONE can know for certain (much like he and Bendis) what is in or out of continuity! He has created the perfect "out" for dealing with actual Marvelites! How vile.

 

[Sloth7d]

Yeah, it frees up writers to do creative things like have a "villain kicks Spidey's ass and is about to kill him, until Spidey thinks of how poor old Aunt May is depending on him and then finds the strength to come back and win" story. That would be sooooo different and creative! (And you know that's what they'll do.)

I thought it was so he could have sex and download porn. This is gold material here folks. Silver aged Spider-man at his best.

 

[Sloth7d]

Think seriously for a moment about everything that's happened since that walk in the park where MJ first told Pete she'd always known....

I'm not going to lie. I thought that was a very stupid retcon. I read Spider-man paper backs, and there's no way MJ always knew.

 

[Spade]

Because it's unwritable, my good Captain.

Think seriously for a moment about everything that's happened since that walk in the park where MJ first told Pete she'd always known... all the adventures... all the crossovers. If this rumor is true, it changes reality not just for Pete and MJ but for everyone in 616.

"Hey, Reed remember that time we... huh... yeah, me neither..."

Hundreds of issues, countless changes... there's no way to keep up with it! Who will know (from the reader's perspective) what actually happened and what didn't?

THAT'S IT!!

THAT is JQ's diabolical plan! Now NO ONE can know for certain (much like he and Bendis) what is in or out of continuity! He has created the perfect "out" for dealing with actual Marvelites! How vile.

That's why I said so many people will be pissed with this if it does indeed occur. No matter how it pans out, if this proves true they're making Spidey's problem the entire MU's problem.

If fans aren't pissed off now...

 

[BrianWilly]

Oh, so you're under the impression that this is somehow going to be permanent, and Peter and MJ will forever be seperated...ok.

I dont see 20 years of continuity being erased as much as "put on hold". And this frees the writers up to tell different types of Spider-Man stories instead of the typical "villain kicks Spidey's ass and is about to kill him, until Spidey thinks of his love for MJ and then finds the strength to come back and win" crap we've been getting force fed ad nauseum for WAY too long now.

But yeah,; you guys go right ahead and pout. Meanwhile i'll be reading kick-ass Spidey stories by Dan Slott.

If the best defense of the story is that its consequences probably won't last forever, that doesn't say much about the quality of the story now does it?

Now, quoting myself from another thread:

Here's another eye-opening epiphany: there are going to be writers who make Spider-Man stories suck ass whether or not he's married. Making him single is not The Magic Solution to making his stories Magically better; there are going to be great Spider-Man writers and horrible Spider-Man writers regardless.

Y'know what...here's what's actually going to happen. I'ma spell it out for everyone. Peter and MJ are going to be separated, and then every single freaking writer on his books are going to be writing stories about them getting back. Oh, they won't actually get back together, but they'll be teasing the hell out of it...just like they've been teasing their separation for the last seven or eight years. Years and years of Spider-Man stories will be bogged down by will-they-or-won't-they dramas of a Peter/MJ reunion. Writers love to write about that damned forbidden fruit, the one thing that they shouldn't have. It's the exact reason why Gwen Stacy still gets teasingly reintroduced all the time in every single alternate reality and every single slim opportunity. "What if Peter and Gwen got back together?" "What if Peter and MJ got back together?" "What if MJ died?" "What if Gwen came back from the grave?" And what if it did happen? What if Gwen really come back and get together with Pete? Of course, the same exact writers would start to tease MJ's return again. The drama of what shouldn't happen is exactly what drove so many haphazard stories over the last few years. Hell, it's exactly what's driving the One More Day story right now!

 

[Harlekin]

Because it's unwritable, my good Captain.

Think seriously for a moment about everything that's happened since that walk in the park where MJ first told Pete she'd always known... all the adventures... all the crossovers. If this rumor is true, it changes reality not just for Pete and MJ but for everyone in 616.

"Hey, Reed remember that time we... huh... yeah, me neither..."

Hundreds of issues, countless changes... there's no way to keep up with it! Who will know (from the reader's perspective) what actually happened and what didn't?

THAT'S IT!!

THAT is JQ's diabolical plan! Now NO ONE can know for certain (much like he and Bendis) what is in or out of continuity! He has created the perfect "out" for dealing with actual Marvelites! How vile.

Oh, that's easy. Everything still happened, but where necessary, someone other than MJ nudged him to do it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

If the best defense of the story is that its consequences probably won't last forever, that doesn't say much about the quality of the story now does it?

Now, quoting myself from another thread:

You're so pretentious.

 

[stillanerd]

Because it's unwritable, my good Captain.

Think seriously for a moment about everything that's happened since that walk in the park where MJ first told Pete she'd always known... all the adventures... all the crossovers. If this rumor is true, it changes reality not just for Pete and MJ but for everyone in 616.

"Hey, Reed remember that time we... huh... yeah, me neither..."

Hundreds of issues, countless changes... there's no way to keep up with it! Who will know (from the reader's perspective) what actually happened and what didn't?

THAT'S IT!!

THAT is JQ's diabolical plan! Now NO ONE can know for certain (much like he and Bendis) what is in or out of continuity! He has created the perfect "out" for dealing with actual Marvelites! How vile.

Even if Marvel does explain certain things in their comics to keep readers up to speed, the fact is that they will essentially create two different timelines within the 616. And, because, if any of this is true, MJ still remembers everything and that if she tells anybody, it will cause a "timewave shock" i.e. unbalance the space-time continuum you know darn well that, sooner or later she's going to reveal it to somebody due to the pressure of keeping such knowledge. Thus, Marvel has potentially planted the seed for the next big crossover event after the Skrull "Secret Invasion" in '08--their own version of Crisis on Infinite Earths. As Rich Johnson from Lying in the Gutters once said "Events in the Marvel Universe will still take place, only with slightly different events involving slightly different characters." Plus, MJ is still branded as the scapegoat because it will be "all her fault" that the universe is about to be unraveled.

 

[Doc Destruction]

I hope it's not permanent, although I could easily see it being 'permanent' for the duration of Joe Q's reign as EIC. Either way, I'm not reading ASM until Pete and MJ are back together.

This is my stance on it. I wish Slott had gotten a chance to write the marriage. Sigh.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'll miss seeing Slott, Bachalo, and all of the other great talent coming on after OMD, but I can't in good conscience give money to Marvel for the comic when they're running so counter to what I want to see in a modern Spider-Man comic.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I wish this OMD business would just go away

 

[PhotoJones]

I'll miss seeing Slott, Bachalo, and all of the other great talent coming on after OMD, but I can't in good conscience give money to Marvel for the comic when they're running so counter to what I want to see in a modern Spider-Man comic.

That's pretty much where I stand, too. It's going to be tough, and I can't say I won't sneak a peak at the Bachalo pages, but I think I'll be okay with not picking it up. There's a ton of quality Marvel books I can get my fill in.

I wish this OMD business would just go away

It's Brand New Day that saddens me more.

 

[Kaboom]

hmm......616 get sdestroyed and all we're left with is the ultimate line where Captain AMerica still liivesssssssssssssssssssss!

 

[Kaboom]

and if spidey never un masks?

no civil war?

heroes go back into hiding?

its like the clone saga all over again!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That's pretty much where I stand, too. It's going to be tough, and I can't say I won't sneak a peak at the Bachalo pages, but I think I'll be okay with not picking it up. There's a ton of quality Marvel books I can get my fill in.

Oh, I'm sure I'll be flipping through the issues in the shop and cursing Marvel for preventing me from buying them with their retcon-happy nonsense.

 

[PhotoJones]

I hope Bachalo gets to do the covers, too.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah? Well, I hope he gets to draw the speech bubbles and letter it, too.

 

[PhotoJones]

What does that matter? I thought you weren't going to read the speech bubbles.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'll admire the speech bubbles' placement and the hand-drawn lettering without reading it.

 

[PhotoJones]

You lie. You've already given into the temptation. I now stand alone.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I can admire the slender curves of a finely crafted S without reading the rest of the word that S is connected to.

 

[PhotoJones]

Your willpower is non-existent.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

My willpower puts a Green Lantern's to shame.

Except Alan Scott.

 

[PhotoJones]

That's not what your gut says.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I can stop anytime I wan--ooh, pie!