Episode 11 - "Fallout" - Discussion Thread

[Abaddon]

does that mean sylar has precognitive abilities?

 

[Anubis]

It's possible. He's picked the brains of quite a few people since he started this whole thing.

 

[Mr. Credible]

so... does peter get the nuclear power from that one guy? and doesn't know how to control it, and that's why he explodes? or what?

i guess that nuclear man was in the jail somewhere near peter, and that's why he was sick at the end?

 

[Knives122]

His sickness could be from being around a lot of people with abilities. That or his powers could be evolving.

 

[Eddie Brock]

His sickness could be from being around a lot of people with abilities. That or his powers could be evolving.

he's sick because he's still bonded to Sylar, and Sylar got pumped with all those tranquilizers....THUS Peter felt the effects

 

[xdpakx]

i def think peter's vision was a metaphor and not a vision of the future because during his vision there is a banner that says vote nathan petrelli but we all know nathan had already won the election when hiro was 5 weeks in the future hwen the bomb actually exploded...

 

[Darren Daring]

He had won the election either that day or the day before. The don't take the banners down immediately.

 

[xdpakx]

he had most probably won the day before because hiro saw it in teh newspaper... and the banner was outside of nathan's campaign headquarters so i would think they would have taken down or replaced the banner with another one sayin he won or osmething, but you never know it could have still been up there

 

[Tyrinus]

he's sick because he's still bonded to Sylar, and Sylar got pumped with all those tranquilizers....THUS Peter felt the effects

I don't think his powers 'bond' him. If you recall HRG said something to Sylar along the lines of 'you're taking on so many abilities, you're degrading.'
I think being around Sylar, Peter picked up some of that degrading as well, hence his failing health and passing out. I think it'll probably work his way out of his system.

 

[Hiro]

So the only painting that didn't come to pass was the one where we actually saw Isaac's vision - him standing on the gate and watching Clair run into the amphitheatre and up the steps. But the actual event unfolds differently and there is no moment that coincides with the painting. It was Future Hiro that set the wheels in motion for Peter to be at the high school and with Clair on the steps. Future Hiro meddled with the time line and negated one of Isaac's paintings.

 

[Wolfwood]

I can't remember the episode that well, are we sure Sylar was there for the girl? If so then she would've had powers and I suppose you have a valid reason for wondering how she fits into all of this. But if not, then you may have read too much into it.

It's possible I'm reading too much into it, I sometimes obsess over the little things. I guess the fact that she hasn't been mentioned yet means one of two things: A.) She's not important and was just a one time character or B.) They're saving her for some big twist.

Then again, if she were important to Sylar, he probably would've kept going after her, though it's possible they put her in witness protection or Child Welfare Services took her and placed her somewhere safe and Sylar hasn't been able to track her done since. Gah, maybe I should just leave it alone.

 

[Tyrinus]

I seem to recall for a split second that Claire was running up the stairs alone, but then Peter came up quickly behind her and then they both ran up the rest of the way.

 

[Hiro]

I seem to recall for a split second that Claire was running up the stairs alone, but then Peter came up quickly behind her and then they both ran up the rest of the way.

I just reran the scene from Ep nine, and in it Clair's movements are exactly the same as they are in Isaac's original vision, right up to the moment when she turns around and sits on the steps and looks back in horror and tries to squirm away. That's the moment Isaac paints. But in the Ep nine version of things Peter is close on her trail, and casting a new shadow on the steps. When Clair gets to the 'snapshot' moment Peter is right beside her. The scene Isaac painted never occurs.

 

[Tyrinus]

I just rewatched that part of the episode and I still gotta say there was a distinct moment that took place with Claire running up the stairs that seems to represent what Isaac painted. The scene depicted in the painting is Clarie running up the stairs from someone...that's what happened. Peter doesn't come into frame till after that 'snapshot' happens.

 

[nexgenpresident]

hey guys jus looked in the interview section on the nbc.site and milo says that peter was overwelmed by the power he was absorbing and fell into that coma.... but i think the dream is jus showing what might be possible.if he doesnt learn how to control his powers he could jus meltdown completely and if ted or sylar w/teds ability is around it could mean trouble...well hear is where the good ol' DOCTOR who comes into play as peter's mentor hahah well thas my lil hypo.

 

[burning-robot]

Here are some of the things that happened just as Issac painted them, so far it looks like Issacs future visions are unavoidable, bad news for NYC.

 

[Poeman]

in The pic with niki's shoulder with the tattoo , i thought that looked like someones butt

 

[Caliber]

Can anyone give me a summary of the episode? Please.

 

[Hiro]

Burning bot I think your cap is too early for the snapshot.

Two frames before this one (trust me) Clair is in exactly the position she assumes in the painting when she's looking at Syler and not Peter. But this is the snapshot moment and Peter is most definitely there. Also note the Sylar shadow is late because Pete held him up. The clincher is that for this painting we got to see exactly what Isaac saw when he was in his precog trance and he didn't see Peter at all.

Future Hiro negated the painting.

Although since the events have transpired maybe the painting, last seen in Benett's possession, now has Peter in it. Somebody should go check.

 

[Antrax255]

Theory One Peter absorbs to much power and explodes
Theory Two Peter tries to stop Ted absorbs too much power and explodes
Theory Three Ted explodes
Theory Four Sylar kills Ted gains ability^see theory two

 

[Hiruu]

Well, so much about Sylar being a punk. He might have been playing possum, or perhaps the combination of the Haitian and Eden locked him down, dunno at this point. We really can't say, since nobody knows exactly HOW MANY and WHICH abilities, he's stolen. It's at least 7 or 8, since the FBI is tracking him as a serial killer, but he might have killed several people and their bodies have not been discovered as yet. We know he's got Telekinesis, Freezing, Rapid memory gain, but that's it so far. I'm kinda confused as to how he recovered so quickly from the 5 story drop, since he doesn't have Claire's ability, so he should have been a bit more injured, unless Bennett has or is a healer (btw, I have a feeling Bennett has some ability).

I'm not sure where Peter go the vision ability from, but here's a thought:

- He can mimic other people's abilities, but he needs to be in proximity to mimic their abilities...this we know.

- He mimics Sylar's ability, which COPIES others abilities and stores them on file, by altering his DNA to make a permanent imprint.

- You combine Peter's ability to Mimic and Sylar's DNA copy, and viola, Peter can mimic AND record the abilities, thus his sickness he's experiencing, since his body is spazzing out over the rapid exposure to 4 or 5 abilities his mimic and copy, PLUS whatever Sylar stole.

Just a thought.

 

[LadyVader]

Maybe one of Sylar's abilities is to generate a force field, around himself. You know... a bubble of telekinetic energy a la Phoenix.

 

[PowersOfMind]

so... does peter get the nuclear power from that one guy? and doesn't know how to control it, and that's why he explodes? or what?

i guess that nuclear man was in the jail somewhere near peter, and that's why he was sick at the end?

No Nuclear man has been MIA since escaping FBI custody. But Peter's dream could be one of many things. Maybe he comes into contact with Ted at some point and cant control the power. Or his vision was him seeing through Ted's eyes.

The reason Peter was sick was because his body couldnt handle coming into contact with all those powers in such a short span of time. Remember he met Claire, Sylar(who has more than one ability), Matt and then Nathan. Plus Hiro and Issac were not too far away but I dont know if we can count them since we dont really know the range of Peter ability.

 

[PLAS]

Maybe one of Sylar's abilities is to generate a force field, around himself. You know... a bubble of telekinetic energy a la Phoenix.

I was thinking about something much more simple: Sylar fell on top of Peter

 

[-Æ-]

You have to remeber history (and the future) repeats itself, no matter how you look at it. With the whole paintings yes events still do occur, yet alot of the events have been interviened to the point where its changed a bit from its original perspective.