Even if both Goku and Superman had no powers....Goku would still win...

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  1. Ultra-Herald9 Registered

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    Man this is just sad. I don't even understand why someone would need to make this thread.....I mean Its quite obvious who would win.















    SUPERMAN!:supes:

    Just kidding lol. Goku takes this one easily! That is unless good ol' Kal decides to whip out the old kryptonian tech then Goku's done! But in a staraight fight with no powers Goku takes it with hardly any trouble!
     
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    Superman would win, and heres why.

    If Goku lost all his powers, he would lose all his martial arts training. All (most) of his powers come from his martial arts, unlike Superman.

    So if you really wanted to strip the characters bare, you'de have to say that Goku has little to no martial arts knowledge, as opposed to Supermans training on it.

    Superman would win, no question about it.

    Although most of you will come in here and go 'lololol no man ur dumb lol goku goku goku!!!' because you're ****ing idiots, but I can't help that.
     
  4. saiyan jedi Registered

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    GOKU

    gokus powers come from his chi not
    his martial arts.
     
  5. Jplaya2023 Registered

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    goku in DB had no powers but was still very well trained in martial arts. He learned martial arts ever since he was young trained by grandpa gohan. So your assertion is incorrect.
     
  6. SSJ4_Mikael Guest

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    Without powers do you mean like Gohan was on Namek, powerlevel zero.
    Couldent even stand up.
     
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  8. Sloth7d Escapist

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    Wow. This is the dumbest thread evaaaa!!!!!
     
  9. SSJ4_Mikael Guest

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    After Recoom beat the **** out of him.
    Than Juizu comfirmes that he have powerlevel zero.
     
  10. Jplaya2023 Registered

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    recoome broke his neck/spins of course he couldnt stand
     
  11. SouLeSS Registered

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    And his chi is focused through his Martial Arts, which therfor is something that gives him his powers, which would be erased from him, making him just an ordinary guy.
     
  12. Spade Seeking new challengers

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    :huh: Umm...hate to rain on your parade, but if Goku had no powers (which in this case would mean the inability to focus his chi) it doesn't mean he would lose. Sure, he wouldn't be able to channel his chi into techniques. But knowing how to defend yourself isn't a superpower. Even if you stripped him of all chi-related techniques he still moves so fast he leaves afterimages behind him. Without their superpowers Kal-El is a normal man and Goku is a skilled fighter.

    *insert yet another Classic Confused smiley here*

    Not exactly. Jheese just mentions that his battle power is insignificant once his neck is broken by Reacoom's kick. To have no battle power is to have no chi, and to have no chi means you're not alive. Chi is necessary for basic bodily function, so a little bit has to be in you for your body to live. Which, to tie this into the topic, is also a reason why if both were depowered Goku would come off the better- even if he couldn't manipulate his own chi his battle power would stay the same. You can't just strip a person completely of chi or they'd be dead.

    EDIT: To go further, Kaiô states that even inanimate objects contain chi. This fight can't happen unless Goku had chi. With latent chi in his body, even without being able to use it, his attacks would still be as powerful as before. So the logic of this thread is somewhat confusing...
     
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    but mr. satan knows martial arts and so does videl. mr. satan never used chi and videl was tought it.(how to manipulate it)
     
  14. Spade Seeking new challengers

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    Just because you can't use chi doesn't mean you don't have it, though. Even though Mr. Satan's erroneously weak he (like every other human under the principle of chi) needs some in his body to exist. If you just wanted a chi-less Son Goku you'd have to make a chi-less Superman, and without chi you are considered dead. So this fight would be pointless.
     
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    i know. at the end of my post i put ( manipulate it). thats what goku does
     
  16. Spade Seeking new challengers

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    I posted that before seeing your edit, to clarify. :cwink:
     
  17. Endless Mike Registered

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    So does Superman.....

    Besides, Superman often is in a situation where he loses his powers. Goku never has. So while Goku will be all confused as to why his kamehameha isn't working, Superman will put him in a half nelson.

    If anyone here has read "Return of Superman" you will see how he can handle himself without powers.

    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/notaboyscout.jpg
     
  18. Sloth7d Escapist

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    Goku knows martial arts. He'd escape easily and then knock him out.
     
  19. Warhammer Half Monk, Half Hitman

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    Goku beats down Superman without powers.
    This comes down to who can fight better/more efficiently and Goku will win. He's a master of martial arts, while Supes is not.
     
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    Except no.

    Superman trained for 1000 years in Valhalla, he was trained in martial arts by Mongul's son, and he has lots of experience fighting without his powers, whereas Goku does not.
     
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    Goku is a fighting genius.
    Im pretty sure he can adapt to any situation.
     
  24. Endless Mike Registered

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    If he was suddenly without powers he would lose, fast, as he would have no idea what was going on in the first few crucial moments that mattered.

    He's never even demonstrated the ability to fight effectively, or at all, without powers, while Superman has.
     
  25. OMEGAVEGETTO Registered

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    what? i bet mr. satan could take superman with no power. goku was trained by master roshi who was a champion and hardly had that much power when he was younger
     

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