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Evolution is a lie

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Goddessreicho said:
Did I spell your name wrong, oops. It was me expressing my GOD given free will to type faster than I can spell.

As for your statement, I say to you again: How very Christian of you to open your mind and understand my ability to balance faith and common friggin sense. :o

Besides, what do you care. My beliefs in God should and are none of your concern. So does the Bible say its ok to but in my ideas and tell me I'm wrong.

Last time I checked Judging in christiandom was to be left to God. So what the heck are you doing?

I don't think she was judging u, and it is up to God to judge not us. It's just that if you do follow the Bible in any way it does say it's the living word, the truth, and you are not supposed to half believe or you are luke warm and God will spew you out like the salt of the Earth. You can believe as you will and have the right to do so, just pointing out that it's like believing fire is hot and then saying it's cold too. You can't have it both ways, either you believe in it or don't as half believing is spoken of badly in the very Bible some say they believe only half of.
 
vibeke_T said:
No, its not possible.
You're either hot or cold for the Lord not lukewarm...the Bible says this. Either you believe the words of the Bible and subsequently Jesus or you dont...not anything in between.
Says who? You? A book written two thousand year ago by men? A church who needs people to believe in said book in order to stay in power? Yeah right.

I'm sorry but I give "God" {for lack of a better word} more credit than that. I know "God" is better than the petty emotional thing the bible tries to make it out to be.
 
Superman said:
Says who? You? A book written two thousand year ago by men? A church who needs people to believe in said book in order to stay in power? Yeah right.

I'm sorry but I give "God" {for lack of a better word} more credit than that. I know "God" is better than the petty emotional thing the bible tries to make it out to be.

Whats wrong with emotions? They are beautiful.
But God inspired the Bible to be written by many different men.
But why call yourself a Christian if you dont believe what the Bible says ...thats the only testament of Jesus -- trully; its the most archaeologically verifiable ancient text...all the original texts are accounted for in some manner and the majority of the events have been archaeologically and genetically verified.
 
Goddessreicho said:
Did I spell your name wrong, oops. It was me expressing my GOD given free will to type faster than I can spell.

As for your statement, I say to you again: How very Christian of you to open your mind and understand my ability to balance faith and common friggin sense. :o

Besides, what do you care. My beliefs in God should be and are none of your concern. So does the Bible say its ok to butt in my ideas and tell me I'm wrong, oh wait...it does doesn't it.

Aah, but wait.

Last time I checked Judging in christiandom was to be left to God. So what the heck are you doing?

Are you a Jehovah's Witness?

Also, people oft quote "Judge not lest thou be judged" -- theres more to that than meets the eye...read the whole verse around it as well as the chapter its contained it. What the verse really means is "dont judge people according to your own personal measure of righteousness -- for that with which you judge you shall also be judged" however the Bible calls us to righteous judgement, to point out what is the problem to edify someone not to tear them down...now while no one is perfect, my intentions were just that...to clarify the issue presented "secular and christian" cannot coexist and it says so in the Bible, numerous times...literally and through examples of those individuals written about in the Bible.
 
Satan's not so bad of a guy.

I think he gets a bum rap.
 
FadingCB said:
I don't think she was judging u, and it is up to God to judge not us. It's just that if you do follow the Bible in any way it does say it's the living word, the truth, and you are not supposed to half believe or you are luke warm and God will spew you out like the salt of the Earth. You can believe as you will and have the right to do so, just pointing out that it's like believing fire is hot and then saying it's cold too. You can't have it both ways, either you believe in it or don't as half believing is spoken of badly in the very Bible some say they believe only half of.

Ok, here's something that I find very hypocritical in the bible from the Old Testament to the New.

God has said through prophets that Women are not to preach, or have a place of, well, verbal power in a church. Their place is in the home. So, according to the Bible Women are not to preach, or work otuside the home for that matter in the Old Testement.

Then why do Ruth and Ester have thier own books, why was it Mary who was the first to see Jesus as a risen deity? It was she who had to tell the others that the Messaiah came. Techinically she was the first to preach after the ressurection.

So which is right, according to what you say there is no lukewarm, God doesn't do inbetween, yet the role of women in Christianity has been very much in the gray.

I became very disallusioned when the Bible when I realized that Women were not suposed to be preaching. That 86 year old lady who got fired from teaching sunday school after 60 years because the new preacher didn't want her there is ridiculas and stupid.

This is another excuse of why its ok to judge as a christian, the "Bible says this and that." I don't believe it. I do believe in God, Jesus, sure, the Book, not so much. Its my God given right that I can pick and choose, and therefore be "lukewarm". If it doesn't make sense, yes I will question it and pick through it. Did the holy spirit guide the book? Well seeing as how it has been abused nearly as much as it has been for good, that idea should be up to each indivisual to choose.

That's how change is made and how progessive thinking will always win over. Jesus was the world's biggest progessive thinker. He wanted change, hated the buracratic control of his religion, and preached open-minded thinking.

Somehow it got lost in translation.

Oh, and then there's my favorite: Orginial Sin.

One of the reasons why I hate it when people tell me what's in the book. I know what's in it, I can read. And I choose to believe what I want to. I don't need someone to yell and scream at me on a stage to tell me what I should think about what I read. Church is for those who want it. I prefere to keep my indivisuality and free will. My good deeds don't need to be sanctioned by a minister/preist/preacher.

Thank God for the Quakers:yay:
 
vibeke_T said:
Are you a Jehovah's Witness?

Also, people oft quote "Judge not lest thou be judged" -- theres more to that than meets the eye...read the whole verse around it as well as the chapter its contained it. What the verse really means is "dont judge people according to your own personal measure of righteousness -- for that with which you judge you shall also be judged" however the Bible calls us to righteous judgement, to point out what is the problem to edify someone not to tear them down...now while no one is perfect, my intentions were just that...to clarify the issue presented "secular and christian" cannot coexist and it says so in the Bible, numerous times...literally and through examples of those individuals written about in the Bible.

How are you a hard-core Christian and comic fan? That's a total no-no. Talk about secularism. That's totally the pot calling the kettle.
 
vibeke_T said:
i've heard a bum rap before too! it made my ears bleed.
I make bums rap.

Then I throw pennies in the street for them. Good fun watching them scurry on the steet for pennies.

Sometimes they get run over.

But I am just helping society out a little by getting rid of them:up:
 
God has said through prophets that Women are not to preach, or have a place of, well, verbal power in a church. Their place is in the home. So, according to the Bible Women are not to preach, or work otuside the home for that matter in the Old Testement

he has not said that...there are conditions in which certain women are not allowed to talk...but read the rest of the surrounding verses...

anyway...I think Quakers are a cult...unless, of course, you're refering to the oatmeal dude...and ONLY him
 
VenomFang said:
All I can say is, do you really want to blame me for things other people did? God says in His word, every man shall be put to death for his own sins.

I didn't burn the mayan text's.


Wow you are contradicting yourself. If we are punished for our own sins yet we all suffer from original sin(you believe suffering from the he that birth defects and stuff are from sin ruining perfection) then that child born with a defect like autism is a sinner or is he suffering from the sins of his ancestors? Isn't the child being punished for nothing he has done...?
 
Goddessreicho said:
How are you a hard-core Christian and comic fan? That's a total no-no. Talk about secularism. That's totally the pot calling the kettle.
Am I a hard-core comic fan? No...just a general, average geek. Am I a hard-core Jesus fan -- heck YES! I love the Lord with all my heart...and liking comics or ice cream doesnt make me secular. However, if its something I can see (using the Bible) is not in line with my Christian faith, then I will pray to God for a way that I can drop it faster than a hot potato. I am NOT a secular person... I am a Christian. I enjoy secular television shows...but washing your hands it holy water is not what makes someone holy...what makes them holy is who they put their trust in wholly...and the holy spirit will minister through them and lead them and guide them in their obedience to do what is God's Will.
If one day, I am convicted that my like of comic book movies is a hinderance to my witness to others of the salvation of Christ then I will ask for God's mercy to remove it from me.
 
Hades said:
I make bums rap.

Then I throw pennies in the street for them. Good fun watching them scurry on the steet for pennies.

Sometimes they get run over.

But I am just helping society out a little by getting rid of them:up:
awwwww :csad:
 
So go to church. Here's question where do all the diffrent shades and variation found in the race of man come from?
 
Weiser_Cain said:
So go to church. Here's question where do all the diffrent shades and variation found in the race of man come from?

Poop?

Melanin?

Huh?


You pick the answer!!!
 
vibeke_T said:
he has not said that...there are conditions in which certain women are not allowed to talk...but read the rest of the surrounding verses...

anyway...I think Quakers are a cult...unless, of course, you're refering to the oatmeal dude...and ONLY him

Are a cult of what? Christians who don't believe in a heiarchy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorestown%2C_New_Jersey
my hometown.

I'll have you know that Quakers are an important part of American history, and Black history at that. They were the most reconized and secure part of the underground railroad, and they helped define the consitution and the delcaration. They founded Pennsilvania and fought against unjust treatment. WHY, because Quakers believe that no one should be treated equally.

Women, men and children were believed to have the same rights in and out of the church. NO HEIARCHY, no creeds, no BS, no hypocrisy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Society_of_Friends

A Quaker meeting is the only time I have ever seen Christiany be what people say its soposed to be, equal under the eyes of God.

You keep telling people to read what you have to say, and you thow bible quotes around, but you think the Quakers are a cult. :o:cmad:

They have done more for people then lower cholesteral in a tasty hot ceral. Try following your own advice and reading up on them.
 
Goddessreicho said:
Are a cult of what? Christians who don't believe in a heiarchy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorestown%2C_New_Jersey
my hometown.

I'll have you know that Quakers are an important part of American history, and Black history at that. They were the most reconized and secure part of the underground railroad, and they helped define the consitution and the delcaration. They founded Pennsilvania and fought against unjust treatment. WHY, because Quakers believe that no one should be treated equally.

Women, men and children were believed to have the same rights in and out of the church. NO HEIARCHY, no creeds, no BS, no hypocrisy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Society_of_Friends

Quaker meeting is the only time I have ever seen Christiany be what people say its soposed to be, equal under the eyes of God.

You keep telling people to read what you have to say, and you thow bible quotes around, but you think the Quakers are a cult. :o:cmad:

They have done more for people then lower cholesteral in a tasty hot ceral. Try following your own advice and reading up on them.

Its a cult because its doctrine doesnt seem to be biblically sound...it has nothing to do with an alleged "heirarchy" among Christians.
I've read about them. In fact, I've read extensively about many things.
I'm just speaking what I know and you have no idea what I think or have read or understand.
I also do not care for what "Quakers" did for Blacks no more than I care for what "Lincoln" did for blacks.
 
vibeke_T said:

there are so many religions and denominations how do we know where right. Also how people follow christianity today to how it was followed 200 or 600 years ago is different to today so we whos to say we practise religion today is even the right way.

my advice accept we are all going to hell and not worry about it.:up:
 
Assassin said:
Think of Heaven like a Club, the only way in is to get on the VIP List, Mr. Jesus is the bouncer.


this
 
vibeke_T said:
Poop?

Melanin?

Huh?


You pick the answer!!!
I'm assuming you're a christian-type bible thumper, acording to your book the earth is only a few thousand years old but it takes way longer for groups to adapt to their enviroment and all the other things that happen(if this seem weird I'm sleepy) before you could cosider them a seperate people? Oh and here's another thing if we all came from adam and eve by what process did humans adapt to the diffrent places they've expanded to?
 
vibeke_T said:
Its a cult because its doctrine doesnt seem to be biblically sound...it has nothing to do with an alleged "heirarchy" in among Christians.
I've read about them. In fact, I've read extensively about many things.
I'm just speaking what I know and you have no idea what I think or have read or understand.
I also do not care for what "Quakers" did for Blacks no more than I care for what "Lincoln" did for blacks.

But you've never been to a Quaker meeting, have you? The meetings expect you to read the Bible and discuss it, instead of being told what to think. The heiarchy is the preach/minister/preist. Quakers do not have someone telling them how to think.

Questioning everything is encouraged. Why, cause Jesus questioned the common way of thinking. So did other great progessive thinkers: Martin Luther, Gandi, Martin Luther King Jr, Republicans pre Vicotorian age, Gloria Stienim, Baraba Chislohm, John the Bapist,...all people who questioned what they were told to believe without thinking otherwise, and yet they still managed to have faith, and change the world to be a better place than before they came along.

If you want to question Evolution, fine. Go ahead question away. But when people question the lack of common sense in the bible, or the hypocrisy, don't set a double standard that only applies to you.

When you get back from a Quaker meeting let me know. And you can tell us all about the crazy cult activity. It will make an intresting read.

Although you may want a pillow, it may be dull if your used to the action-packed activity of a regular church.
 
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