Exposed - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[Serene]

How cool is it that my two favorite SV reviewers post here?

 

[triplet]

How cool is it that my two favorite SV reviewers post here?

I dunno, you tell me...

 

[RakuMon]

Triplet, about the diplomatci immunity thing, it's entirely possible that this guy was hauled in for crimes (perhaps even similar crimes) before, and been given a get-out-of-jail free, so Detective Sawyer knew detaining him wouldn't do anything more than getting him in custody for a few days.

I think the whole "diplomatic immunity" scene was just an homage to Donner's Lethal Weapon 2. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[avidreader]

mine finally went up on Kingdom along with a cool Marsters interview

http://www.dc-kingdom.com/index.php

Great review Hulk, and thanks for explaining the Diplomatic Immunity as that was really bugging me. I think its safe to assume that they just skipped over a few details for the sake of the story.

About Clark barging into Lex's house, well I always assumed that guests were announced, even Clark, but you just dont see it.

However, I do agree that the way they wrote that scene it looked liked Clark was the jerk. I can only guess that they are showing him this way to make us see that Clark needs to learn some lessons about thinking first and acting later and to be a little more discrete when going after the bad guy.

 

[AllThingsComic]

This is what's great about this show, they don't insult the viewers intelligence and sometimes even let you draw your own conclusion(although they really might not have a way to explain something and count on SHH threads to form thier own,lol). In my opinion, anything that has this many people talking has got to be brilliant work.

 

[NHawk19]

This is what's great about this show, they don't insult the viewers intelligence and sometimes even let you draw your own conclusion(although they really might not have a way to explain something and count on SHH threads to form thier own,lol). In my opinion, anything that has this many people talking has got to be brilliant work.

I dunno that printer thing felt like an insult to me.


BTW does anyone have the shots of Clark pulling the helicopter down?

 

[Brainiac 8]

I dunno that printer thing felt like an insult to me.


BTW does anyone have the shots of Clark pulling the helicopter down?

I know, that made me laugh too. I have never seen a printer that did that.

It was good for a laugh though.

 

[NHawk19]

Found the image:

This really bugged me. How was he able to do this? Shouldnt he have been lifted off the ground?

 

[AllThingsComic]

Yeah, I know, but some times I guess you just have to suspend reality for a moment. I look at it this way 7 good things to the 1 bad thing aint a bad deal. I mean, do they really want us to believe that Chloe and Lois would also walk into some guys office without even knowing who or when the guy would return? I thought to myself, yeah right, but then I said oh well whatever.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Found the image:

This really bugged me. How was he able to do this? Shouldnt he have been lifted off the ground?

In this episode Clark learned a new power, how to stick to things with his feet like spider-man.

 

[AllThingsComic]

He's Superman, you know the whole super human strength. I also thought it was a bit of an homage to Chris Reeves Superman in a way.

 

[avidreader]

I know, that made me laugh too. I have never seen a printer that did that.

It was good for a laugh though.

Dont to be too sure guys. I worked in an office where the printer did exactly that. It may be all in the way that its set up.

 

[NHawk19]

The Helicopter scene bugs me because of the lack of attention to detail. They could have fixed it 2 ways.

1) Have Clark loop the line under something. so it's not a straight pull.

2) Put those wavy things around him on this so it looks like he's distorting the space around him like flight. That way we could infer he's willing himself into place. They used them on the jump. However, I think it would have been more effective had they left it off there and used the effect here.

I went looking for the pics hoping option #2 would come true.

 

[avidreader]

He's stronger than the helicoper tho, so him keeping himself fastened to the ground is just like a normal person pulling a kite down out of the sky. Why would he be lifted up?

 

[triplet]

Dont to be too sure guys. I worked in an office where the printer did exactly that. It may be all in the way that its set up.

I betcha it wasn't a small inkjet printer like that one, though, was it?

I'm most familiar with HP inkjet printers, the bastards, but I don't know of any inkjet printer that would spit out another copy like that.

Small, personal inkjet printers are line printers in that they only remember one line at a time.

Larger printers, like networkable laser printers, are page printers and probably could (dependning on how you have them set up, the type of print job that is sent down, how much built-in memory they have, and whether or not they have an internal hard drive) remember their print jobs. However, that printer was too small to be that kind of laser printer.

The only way I could see it work was if the button on the printer somehow "asks" the pc to send the last print job down again, the printer itself isn't capable of remembering a whole print job.

It was too small, IMO.

 

[avidreader]

I betcha it wasn't a small inkjet printer like that one, though, was it?

I'm most familiar with HP inkjet printers, the bastards, but I don't know of any inkjet printer that would spit out another copy like that.

Small, personal inkjet printers are line printers in that they only remember one line at a time.

Larger printers, like networkable laser printers, are page printers and probably could (dependning on how you have them set up, the type of print job that is sent down, how much built-in memory they have, and whether or not they have an internal hard drive) remember their print jobs. However, that printer was too small to be that kind of laser printer.

The only way I could see it work was if the button on the printer somehow "asks" the pc to send the last print job down again, the printer itself isn't capable of remembering a whole print job.

It was too small, IMO.

Your right it was a laser printer, but I thought that printer looked pretty big at least as big as the one I used to use.

I guess its enough of a possibility that I just went with it and thought that a printer was capable of doing that.

My computer geek son was watching it and he didnt say anything and he's usually really quick to pick up on stuff like that.

 

[triplet]

Your right it was a laser printer, but I thought that printer looked pretty big at least as big as the one I used to use.

I guess its enough of a possibility that I just went with it and thought that a printer was capable of doing that.

My computer geek son was watching it and he didnt say anything and he's usually really quick to pick up on stuff like that.

<--- former professional computer geek who did tech support for high end HP (the bastards) laser printers

It made me wonder because I also used to be a tester and we used other company's ink jet printers in the lab and I have never seen a printer that can do that.

I suppose it doesnt' mean it doesn't exist, but Souders and Peterson also wrote Delete which had some of the most egregious computing errors I have ever seen on a major network TV series. That on an episode that dealt with a fairly technical plot line.

Awful and Stupid.

They have no clue what they're talking about when it comes to computers, IMO. They should give up ever trying to use a computer as a plot point ever again.

 

[NHawk19]

He's stronger than the helicoper tho, so him keeping himself fastened to the ground is just like a normal person pulling a kite down out of the sky. Why would he be lifted up?

The kite doesnt exert enough force to move a person. Unless your flying it in a Hurricane .

Think of it like climbing a rope. The rope is fastened to the roof of a building. When you exert force and pull, you move closer to the roof and further from the ground, because it takes less force to move you than it does to move the roof to you.

Unless Clark weighed more (or distorted the stuff around him similar to flight) than the force required to lift from the ground the Helicopter, when he pulled he would move up the rope, and wouldnt have stayed put on the roof.

However, if he would have looped the rope through something fastened to the roof stood behind it and pulled then he would have been able to stay on the ground.


<---------------------------Degree in Civil Engineering

 

[avidreader]

NHawk, Triplet you both beat me in the professional department , so I guess I'll just have to concede. However as a layperson I didnt find anything exceptionally wrong or out of the ordinary with either of those scenes.

 

[Serene]

Unless Clark weighed more (or distorted the stuff around him similar to flight) than the force required to lift from the ground the Helicopter, when he pulled he would move up the rope, and wouldnt have stayed put on the roof.

If we were dealing with a human being, you would be correct. But the way I can justify it is by assuming that the SuperStrength in Clark's arms is able to exert a much greater force than that of the helicopter. So, in other words, his arm strength compensates for his lack of weight. Totally unrealistic (and I believe, physically impossible)... but we are talking Superman.

 

[avidreader]

If we were dealing with a human being, you would be correct. But the way I can justify it is by assuming that the SuperStrength in Clark's arms is able to exert a much greater force than that of the helicopter. So, in other words, his arm strength compensates for his lack of weight. Totally unrealistic (and I believe, physically impossible)... but we are talking Superman.

That's what I was thinking.

 

[NHawk19]

If we were dealing with a human being, you would be correct. But the way I can justify it is by assuming that the SuperStrength in Clark's arms is able to exert a much greater force than that of the helicopter. So, in other words, his arm strength compensates for his lack of weight. Totally unrealistic (and I believe, physically impossible)... but we are talking Superman.

All he would have done was climb up the rope towards the helicopter, as it's easier to move his mass than that of the Helicopter. He weighs what 200lbs if we're lucky. Watch Fear Factor, they open with stunts like that all the time.

Now if he would have looped it under something similar to using a pulley to raising a flag I would have bought it but it was straight down. And you'd be 100% correct Serene.

Hence my comment that if he could fly he could essentially hold his position, and force himself to the ground.

 

[AllThingsComic]

Hawk, i'm not doubting you in any way, my thought process is that it's a fictional character from another planet who defies all the laws of this planet. It's sort of like disputing Chris Reeves catching the Helicopter with Lois in the other hand and him not being dragged down several floors. It's pointless to argue logic and reason when the character is fictional. Just my thoughts on this discussion.

 

[NHawk19]

Hawk, i'm not doubting you in any way, my thought process is that it's a fictional character from another planet who defies all the laws of this planet. It's sort of like disputing Chris Reeves catching the Helicopter with Lois in the other hand and him not being dragged down several floors. It's pointless to argue logic and reason when the character is fictional. Just my thoughts on this discussion.

I know . . .Its just that SV is trying to depict itself as a more realistic portrayal, and this particular item really really bugged the hell out of me. Like I said before had they done one of two things no problem.

I mean they get the 7th & Edgemont stuff, Dukes jokes, hidden \S/, etc. Then they spend tons of $ on effects. Just wanted to see a little more effort go into this item.

 

[AllThingsComic]

You're right on that, I would liked to have seen some kind of f/x on the ground, it would have made the whole scene cooler.