Fan Review Thread SPOILERS INSIDE - Part 2

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah I will check out the 1st season then. Thanks.

No probs, if you like fantasy you will love it.

 

[TeeKay]

No probs, if you like fantasy you will love it.

I'm an open minded person.t: I like trying out new things.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I'm an open minded person.t: I like trying out new things.

Good stuff . But yeah it is an amazing show, for me, it takes a little dip in season 2, but season 3 was amazing and the best yet.

 

[TeeKay]

Good stuff . But yeah it is an amazing show, for me, it takes a little dip in season 2, but season 3 was amazing and the best yet.

Yeah I hear people say it's amazing but I never really had time to check it out. I'm ordering the first full season on blu ray as we speak.

I have had a little more time to think about Malekith and I have come to this conclusion...Malekith is actually a pretty dark villain in terms of what he does. He's played more like a King who doesn't need to get his hands dirty but he makes battle command decisions, even ones that result in a LOT of carnage and death. Could he have used more development? Absolutely, though I'm not sure I want ANOTHER villain who is only a villain because of what a hero did. Honestly, I'm tired of that. It was refreshing to have a villain whose goal seemed to be to plunge the world back into a place he could rule it.

( btw this is not aimed at you AVEITWITHJAMON, just my overall thoughts on the character)

 

[GremlinZilla89]

calm the heck down... don't turn this into a flame war. You can dislike a film regardless of what heroes you prefer...

Urgh, thats exactly what I said.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Yeah I hear people say it's amazing but I never really had time to check it out. I'm ordering the first full season on blu ray as we speak.

I have had a little more time to think about Malekith and I have come to this conclusion...Malekith is actually a pretty dark villain in terms of what he does. He's played more like a King who doesn't need to get his hands dirty but he makes battle command decisions, even ones that result in a LOT of carnage and death. Could he have used more development? Absolutely, though I'm not sure I want ANOTHER villain who is only a villain because of what a hero did. Honestly, I'm tired of that. It was refreshing to have a villain whose goal seemed to be to plunge the world back into a place he could rule it.

( btw this is not aimed at you AVEITWITHJAMON, just my overall thoughts on the character)

I agree... it also gave us our first truly tragic death in the Marvel Cinematic Universe..

Russo also gave him one hell of a fight

 

[TeeKay]

I agree... it also gave us our first truly tragic death in the Marvel Cinematic Universe..

Russo also gave him one hell of a fight

He got his ass kicked lol

 

[samsnee]

Saw it a second time. Just as enjoyable and I liked it much more than Iron Man 3. The only parts that fell flat were the London scenes as Asgard was much more interesting. Needs more Sif though.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Just saw it with my wife. Really enjoyed it. For me the humor and Loki made the movie. The dramatic scenes were more hit or miss and Malekith, though sufficiently badass, didnt have much personality. I agree with those who say the first Act is rushed a bit. Most of the visuals were good to great. Better than the 1st imo. 7.75 out of 10.

edit: opted for 2D as ive now decided that Marvel movies look better without the 3D. I can see more details in the periphery and the cgi looks more convincing. I could see this once more, especially if i can find a 2D IMAX screening.

edit: the mid-credits scene looked cheap and thrown together, with some iffy performances and makeup. i can see why Taylor wanted it clear that he had nothing to do with it. hopefully it doesnt reflect on anything.

edit: the after credits scene was predictable but earned. something for the ladies.

 

[Herolee10]

The more I think about it, the more I kind of agree with others who have said that I think it would have been better if they kept Loki dead in this film. The death scene was brilliantly executed (no pun intended) on film, and truth be told, I can't see on how they can top this moment when Loki eventually bites the dust.

The problem with Marvel imho is that they're unwilling to keep their fan favorites dead when they kill them off, which somewhat cheapens the emotions that goes into their given death scenes.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yeah I hear people say it's amazing but I never really had time to check it out. I'm ordering the first full season on blu ray as we speak.

Prepare to become addicted ha ha!

I have had a little more time to think about Malekith and I have come to this conclusion...Malekith is actually a pretty dark villain in terms of what he does. He's played more like a King who doesn't need to get his hands dirty but he makes battle command decisions, even ones that result in a LOT of carnage and death. Could he have used more development? Absolutely, though I'm not sure I want ANOTHER villain who is only a villain because of what a hero did. Honestly, I'm tired of that. It was refreshing to have a villain whose goal seemed to be to plunge the world back into a place he could rule it.

I didnt want that either, but he wasnt even a good villain in the 'boo, hiss' vain. I got tired of sympathetic villains last decade so to get someone truly despicable would have been great. But Malekith was just nothing, he wasnt sympathetic, he wasnt the type of villain you love to hate, he was just there, and I just didnt feel anything when he was on screen.

Kurse at least struck a bit of fear into you in his short scenes and especially his short fight scene with Thor, Malekith couldnt even do that.

( btw this is not aimed at you AVEITWITHJAMON, just my overall thoughts on the character)

Yeah I caught that dont worry.

 

[Crimson King]

The guys at The Hodgepodge Podcast asked me to come on and discuss my views on The Dark World. We ended up talking about pretty much every comic book movie, I think.

 

[RoryTate]

A question for others who have seen the movie: do you think the Loki dungeon scene with Frigga was actually him talking with her, or just him creating an illusion of her to have a made-up conversation with? Initially I thought the latter: Odin had said Frigga wouldn't visit Loki, and then the way she just vanished (like she was one of his illusions) when she said he was lying to himself sealed it for me. It all worked quite well.

But then I saw other reviews and people read the scene straight, perhaps since Frigga was later shown to be able to project an illusion of Jane. At this point, I'm not sure exactly what was meant as truth, or if it is left to the viewer to decide. I tend to prefer the Loki talking to himself interpretation honestly, since he would only admit to himself how much he cares for his mother/family (and even that would be a struggle). OTOH, he does get a last direct conversation with his mother before she dies if it is really her, which makes losing her more powerful.

Or maybe I'm just coming up with a reason to go see the film again this weekend.

 

[cherokeesam]

A question for others who have seen the movie: do you think the Loki dungeon scene with Frigga was actually him talking with her, or just him creating an illusion of her to have a made-up conversation with? Initially I thought the latter: Odin had said Frigga wouldn't visit Loki, and then the way she just vanished (like she was one of his illusions) when she said he was lying to himself sealed it for me. It all worked quite well.

But then I saw other reviews and people read the scene straight, perhaps since Frigga was later shown to be able to project an illusion of Jane. At this point, I'm not sure exactly what was meant as truth, or if it is left to the viewer to decide. I tend to prefer the Loki talking to himself interpretation honestly, since he would only admit to himself how much he cares for his mother/family (and even that would be a struggle). OTOH, he does get a last direct conversation with his mother before she dies if it is really her, which makes losing her more powerful.

Or maybe I'm just coming up with a reason to go see the film again this weekend.

This movie is too straightforward to set up any ambiguous metaphorical dialogues that might accidentally give some of these characters some, well, character. The scene is meant to be played straight, like all the other illusions in the film: Frigga "visited" Loki in the dungeon via a thought/magic projection.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

I get the impression that Frigga has the gift of (limited) foresight. She probably sensed the danger and thought that maybe Loki had a positive role to play. Her death was the "push" Loki needed. Just a wild guess but who knows.

 

[Vartha]

This movie is too straightforward to set up any ambiguous metaphorical dialogues that might accidentally give some of these characters some, well, character. The scene is meant to be played straight, like all the other illusions in the film: Frigga "visited" Loki in the dungeon via a thought/magic projection.

the Young Readers novel describes that scene and says that's a Hologram of Frigga

 

[RoryTate]

the Young Readers novel describes that scene and says that's a Hologram of Frigga

What did it mean by hologram? That sounds like it's neither Frigga or Loki, which is strange.

This movie is too straightforward to set up any ambiguous metaphorical dialogues that might accidentally give some of these characters some, well, character.

I would disagree with that, but I understand why someone could see it that way, given some of the movie's problems. To me, the way Kurse and Loki faced off in the cell break scene, and Kurse deciding not to let Loki out -- all without any dialogue -- was an excellent example of great characterization for Loki.

 

[Human Torch]

I thought it was actually Frigga talking to Loki in the cell.An obvious set up to explain her powers of illusion.

I was left with another question (or several!)

Does Frigga have those powers in the comics?

how did Loki "inherit" those powers from Frigga? (since he's famously adopted)

If Frigga taught this magic to Loki,why didn't she teach it to Thor?

 

[Vartha]

The Frigga IN loki's prison cell is like a tv monitor. A hologram image made of light. Something Loki wouldn't be able to harm

 

[Feenix]

I thought it was actually Frigga talking to Loki in the cell.An obvious set up to explain her powers of illusion.

I was left with another question (or several!)

Does Frigga have those powers in the comics?

how did Loki "inherit" those powers from Frigga? (since he's famously adopted)

If Frigga taught this magic to Loki,why didn't she teach it to Thor?

I think I remember reading somewhere that it's because of all the love and attention Odin gave Thor that Frigga wanted something special for Loki. Plus, with Thor being the older brother, it would make him first in line for the throne. Loki gets magic, Thor gets the throne.

Also, I don't think the Thor in the MCU would have interest in learning magic. He sees magic as trickery and so would focus his energy on getting stronger and being tougher as opposed to learning "tricks."

 

[Human Torch]

I think I remember reading somewhere that it's because of all the love and attention Odin gave Thor that Frigga wanted something special for Loki. Plus, with Thor being the older brother, it would make him first in line for the throne. Loki gets magic, Thor gets the throne.

Also, I don't think the Thor in the MCU would have interest in learning magic. He sees magic as trickery and so would focus his energy on getting stronger and being tougher as opposed to learning "tricks."

That's what I suspected as well.

 

[Vartha]

okay here it goes,
I give Thor Dark World a 9-10 (I wish I could get that poll to work)
I saw really nothing wrong with Malekith's performance being a Dark Elf and all. I think people are too busy reading what he says most of the time to actually pay attention to the performance. I think what would have helped is if they spoke in English. That is really my only problem.
I absolutely LOVED the look of the entire film. I saw nothing wrong with any of visuals at ALL.
The entire audience laughed at all the right places, Specially the Lokicap. lol
The fight scenes were ALL great, just wish we had more of Sif and Hogun.
What really stood out to me was the end with Loki/Odin. Anthony nailed Tom's movement, as Odin sat down in the throne as Thor walked away to leave for Earth. I'm still trying to actually figure out when Odin disappeared. I'm thinking it was when we last saw him with Heimdall.

 

[Human Torch]

I'm not sure if I missed a line or something,but did they ever explain why Selvig was acting like a loon?I guess the events of the Avengers were too much for him?

It was funny,but I actually found myself feeling bad for the character (and the actor.)

 

[Senator Pleasury]

I'm not sure if I missed a line or something,but did they ever explain why Selvig was acting like a loon?I guess the events of the Avengers were too much for him?

It was funny,but I actually found myself feeling bad for the character (and the actor.)

Not that I remember. I feel they were thinking, ok now how can we make THIS character funny for the sake of it. No pants? Great. No pants on TV? Better. No pants on TV twice? Fabulous.

 

[Feenix]

Not that I remember. I feel they were thinking, ok now how can we make THIS character funny for the sake of it. No pants? Great. No pants on TV? Better. No pants on TV twice? Fabulous.

I was under the impression that it was because of what Loki did to his mind in the Avengers that he was acting all bonkers.