Fant4stic Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - - - - Part 27

[Paradox1]

I'm looking at the character and personality traits of Doom as they're being described by other people and seeing immediate parallels between those kinds of traits and the kinds of traits that drive terrorists and other types of extremists to propagate and spread their viewpoints.

For somebody with the kind of personality that people are attributing to 'classic' Doom, an Internet blog is exactly the kind of platform I'd expect him to use to 'lord' his superiority over people. It's not about 'sharing' his viewpoints with the world; it's about exposing the world to the fact that he sees himself as superior to everyone else in the universe and reveling in that superiority on a grand scale.

I've made a similar point but I didn't connect it with terrorism though that is valid. I was going with the assumption that Domashev is a refuge backed by Toby comment about creating an Eastern European accent.I also assume his blog is about the horrors of his homeland.

 

[Sithborg]

Blogging is essentially monologuing, so it would seem to make sense. We will see how it plays out in the film.

 

[wobbly]

'Aloof'. I bolded that when I described Doom for a reason. Those saying blogging fits that? Read up it's definition.

Someone who sees themselves 'above it all', distant and indifferent at best to others, would not indulge in mundane common practices, which to their minds are no more than petty wastes of time.

Doom doesn't want an audience nor does he desire any soap box medium to broadcast his opinions. He lets his deeds, not a website, speak for themselves and doesn't care what people think of them.

Comparing him to Terrorists is simply wrong. Terrorists use whatever they can to spread their misguided message and (as the term implies) instil terror. Doom's goals are beyond that and those who fear him do so because they already know what he can do. They don't need to read a blog from him.

I would be more impressed if they used this Doom to show his contempt and serve as a brief commentary for the trappings of the digital age we all have access to. Saying something like: "Dim witted sheep all too eager to flock at the bark of a pointless media trend. Technology and resources wasted on granting ignorant masses a voice and an audience. A futile connection that makes them all feel less pathetic, less ordinary, but all of them are ultimately meaningless. I have no need for such things."

Something like that would be in character for Doom. Blogging would not.

 

[metaphysician]

I can certainly see Doom *using* the internet, but blogging as its conventionally understood? No. He very well might do press releases via internet, or publish books full of his "wisdom", but not random articles about whatever hits his mind.

 

[The Guard]

The "Doom" handle may be stupid, but let's face it, the name "Dr. Doom" is cheesy as hell. It's part of the character's charm.

As for the idea that Doom doesn't want an audience or care about what people think of him, I call BS on that. Actions speak louder than words. This is a character who is CONSTANTLY monologuing, broadcasting his evil plans on giant televisions, telling people he is the supreme genius, etc.

Especially if its pre-Doom, Victor trying to get his opinions and point of view to as many people as possible, especialy in an anti-social capacity, that's pure Doom. I seriously doubt he has a "normal" blog.

 

[nogolf33]

At this point, I'm going to view Kebell's blogging description as a mistake. Doom may transmit information though a computer interface, he isn't creating a tumbler or posting on a message board.

 

[Drz]

But why not? It's what young people do.

 

[nogolf33]

I don't see a young Doom spending a lot of time on social pursuits. I don't think he would seek social contacts via the internet. What would he post, the world's greatest web page?

The archives on this page have the right attitude, maybe not the content the future monarch would have...

http://maddox.xmission.com/

I don't know what the young Doom would have to gain from blogging.

 

[marvelmadness13]

Did anyone else notice that during the interview with Tim Blake Nelson yesterday they confirmed that not only are they still doing reshoots, but they have more planned as well?

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/433773-tim-blake-nelson-talks-fantastic-four-reshoots#/slide/1

We talked a little about the reshoots for the film, which are currently taking place in Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Are the reshoots you’re doing next week a course correction to make it a bigger and hence more marketable movie?

So much for the "3 or 4 days" they insisted was the case.

 

[RAE072]

Did anyone else notice that during the interview with Tim Blake Nelson yesterday they confirmed that not only are they still doing reshoots, but they have more planned as well?

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/433773-tim-blake-nelson-talks-fantastic-four-reshoots#/slide/1

So much for the "3 or 4 days" they insisted was the case.

They're going to screw it up even more than it already was.

 

[Orba]

They are still doing reshoots? That would mean that they have spent at least as long on reshoots as they spent on principle photography. If that is the case I can't see Fox wanting Trank back, having reshoots go on this long must be adding millions (maybe tens of millions) to the cost of the film.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Wow. He's doing reshoots next week? Crazy.

 

[Link]

I don't think they have been doing reshoots all this time, probably more like pick-ups now and then. Although i do think that at this point possible reshoots could be a good thing for this movie, they are most likely just adding action shots. Which most likely wont hurt a movie that was rumored to have only few fight scenes?

Besides the thing is, sometimes filmmakers make errors with their first cut. Especially you know, young filmmakers. Reshoots might be bad news for Fox, but good news for us.

Obviously just speculating, but i guess speculations can be positive sometimes, even here lol.

 

[Orba]

I don't think they have been doing reshoots all this time, probably more like pick-ups now and then. Although i do think that at this point possible reshoots could be a good thing for this movie, they are most likely just adding action shots. Which most likely wont hurt a movie that was rumored to have only few fight scenes?

Besides the thing is, sometimes filmmakers make errors with their first cut. Especially you know, young filmmakers. Reshoots might be bad news for Fox, but good news for us.

Obviously just speculating, but i guess speculations can be positive sometimes, even here lol.

Even if they are just doing pickups now and then it will still be costing Fox millions, they are having to pay the filming crew for all the work as well as paying them to make sure that they keep themselves available. Also they have to keep all the sets up and locations reserved so that other movies can't come in and redress the locations for their own uses.

 

[Theweepeople]

Even if they are just doing pickups now and then it will still be costing Fox millions, they are having to pay the filming crew for all the work as well as paying them to make sure that they keep themselves available. Also they have to keep all the sets up and locations reserved so that other movies can't come in and redress the locations for their own uses.

Honesty, what extra footage could they be adding to the film at this point? Boring filler material because they sure as hell won't have time to fix the special effects with 3 months left.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Honesty, what extra footage could they be adding to the film at this point? Boring filler material because they sure as hell won't have time to fix the special effects with 3 months left.

Well they could be doing a lot of special effects work concurrently. My concern is if they're spending all this time and money on reshoots, will some of that money be taken out of the special effects budget?

I think what we've been hearing about reshoots points to some sort of a major re-write for reasons we can only speculate about.

It's not at all likely, but also not impossible that Trank had a bigger initial vision than Fox wanted to pay for. Once they saw how well he did with the scaled down story, they may have agreed to give him more money to do his bigger film.

Again, not saying that's likely, but as long as we're speculating wildly, that's one posiible interpretation.

But based in what we've been hearing and seeing for the past year, it seems much more likely it's a salvage job.

 

[Orba]

My concern is if they're spending all this time and money on reshoots, will some of that money be taken out of the special effects budget?

It might explain why the film appears to no longer be getting a 3D conversion.

 

[jaymes_e06]

What was so wrong with the film that they have to go to these lengths to fix it?

Reshoots are common but this much is unheard of and normally not a good sign.

 

[moviedoors]

It's not even remotely "unheard of."

 

[jaymes_e06]

This close to the film coming out? Really? I'm not even being facetious I just haven't heard of a film doing that so enlighten me.

 

[fantasticfan]

There are loads of photos online showing Ant Man reshoots on April 9-10 in downtown Los Angeles. Paul Rudd is in them. That's an example I guess.

 

[Theweepeople]

This close to the film coming out? Really? I'm not even being facetious I just haven't heard of a film doing that so enlighten me.

I've heard of some films having reshoots this close to the release date for a few days but, this film had reshoots for months. There's nothing typical about this production.

 

[DigificWriter]

The Lord of the Rings and Hobbit films were doing reshoots and pick-up filming right up until the time that Peter was required to have them completed and handed over to the studio, so this is "much ado about nothing".

 

[jaymes_e06]

I've heard of some films having reshoots this close to the release date for a few days but, this film had reshoots for months. There's nothing typical about this production.

Exactly it's not like it's just one or the other but both things that seems weird. And LotR films are all 3 hour long films and this one will probably barely be 2 so try again.

 

[Docker2.0]

Exactly it's not like it's just one or the other but both things that seems weird. And LotR films are all 3 hour long films and this one will probably barely be 2 so try again.

I honestly believe those rumors that when Fox execs saw the finished product, they didn't like it and Kinberg is cleaning up some of Trank's mess. Kinberg is being said to be more so in the driver's seat that Trank is at this point.