Fant4stic Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 31

[TeeKay]

Bleh.:

 

[marvelmadness13]

Someone needs to photoshop the title of the next Divergent film on this so we can see how many people it fools. This costumes would be a million times more at home in that franchise.

 

[Eddie]

I don't know why y'all are whining about that new picture. It's the most honest promotion they've done to date. Fox is protecting what matters the most: their film rights contract.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

The second generation X-men (with Wolverine) didn't have matching uniforms, and Robin doesn't wear a batman uniform.


Thing has always had a different uniform. Sue has had some variation from Reed and Johnny. The colors scheme, if that is one, is the same.

I hope they are still evolving. I'd hate for those to be the final uniforms, but I don't mind them as prototype suits.




I agree about the movies, though I would have toned down Darcy.

the X-men post origin have really been more about individuality than the "team dynamic" same with batman and his bat-family... they arn't so much a "team" as they are "people who work together" if that makes sense.

The Fantastic Four are a brand in the comics....

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

If you look at the most popular characters in film, they almost all have a very distinctive and instantly recognizable look. James Bond, The Man with No Name, Darth Vader, Indiana Jones, John McClane, Marty McFly, Harry Potter, etc.

These just look so boring and generic in comparison. Aside from The Thing, who isn't in this photo, none of them stand out at all.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

I have a lot of problems with a lot things Marvel has done with a lot of their films.

But I've never looked at any major Marvel character in costume and, without context, said: "Who is that supposed to be?" the way anyone who doesn't know this film would do with this:

Honestly this looks to me like the discount "No Frills" brand of Fantastic Four.

Which would you rather have?

This?

Or this?

 

[Eddie]

A truly memorable character is one that you can instantly recognize by silhouette alone. I don't know who the hell these people are supposed to be in decent lighting.

 

[Kelly]

Honestly this looks to me like the discount "No Frills" brand of Fantastic Four.

Which would you rather have?

This?

Or this?

 

[Spiderine]

I have a question. And this is just for discussion and not to turn into an argument but something that has peaked my curiosity. I want to know that IF marvel had the F4 back under their belt. But had made the movie the same way Fox has. Even though they wouldn't but just say for discussions sake they did. Would the people who are against it currently be supporting it? I've wondered this because say Marvel went with Doom the programmer/hacker/user etc and black Torch with a white sister and had Trank on board all that with production problems all just the same. Would you still all go see it? My presumption is you would because it's under Marvel right? Like I said this is a general question I'm just interested. I'd watch it if it's Fox, Marvel or any studio. But that's me personally. This is hypothetical so don't say something like Marvel wouldn't do that or whatever.

And this isn't going anywhere or a set up. Just my own curiosity. And also for something different to discuss if possible lol. We seem to go round and round in circles.

I would still hate it. Everything about it from the look, feel, and tone is all wrong. It appears as a dull film and leaves very little to be excited about in an era where there are numerous other comic book films to compare it to. U got to come with something different and yet still be exciting to the eyes.

I couldn't even pretend Marvel made this film because it doesn't even feel like part of the family. I doubt if I would be interested in it but at the very least Marvel would likely try to sell it as a bigger part of its cinematic universe. That alone could get it some support.

 

[Eddie]

*looks up price of bai5 in relation to a can of coke*

Ah,you're saying you want something that actually costs a bit of money and is different from the various "colas" that flood the market, but all you're seeing is a cheap, generic product.

That's one helluva Fant4stic metaphor there, Kelly.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I would feel the exact same way if Marvel had it. I'm not even sure if I'll bother seeing Ant-Man either.

 

[Docker2.0]

I would feel the exact same way if Marvel had it. I'm not even sure if I'll bother seeing Ant-Man either.

You dirty rat!!

 

[Flint Marko]

If Marvel made this movie I'm relatively certain there'd be even more of an outcry. Remember those hardcore Mandarin fans that came out of the woodwork in 2013?

 

[Shikamaru]

The fans have turned on Marvel many times. Thor 2, Agents of SHIELD's early days, the whole Edgar Wright fiasco, recently AoU (though to a lesser degree), etc. People aren't the Marvel drones others make them out to be.

Peyton Reed was booed at Marvel's Comic Con panel last year.

 

[UltraSuperGuy]

I have a lot of problems with a lot things Marvel has done with a lot of their films.

But I've never looked at any major Marvel character in costume and, without context, said: "Who is that supposed to be?" the way anyone who doesn't know this film would do with this:

I think the most amusing thing about this picture is how completely unheroic it looks. All three of them just look like "why am I here? This sucks. Can I go home now?" which I'm sure was exactly what the actors were feeling during filming.

 

[Eddie]

It's a moot point. Marvel never would have made this film. It's not at all their sort of film. Had they done it, however, the outcry would probably be worse as more people would have heard about the damn thing to begin with.

 

[Marvin]

I have a lot of problems with a lot things Marvel has done with a lot of their films.

But I've never looked at any major Marvel character in costume and, without context, said: "Who is that supposed to be?" the way anyone who doesn't know this film would do with this:

That's your entire problem right there. Judging a 'things' merit on how it 'performs' without context. As if that's some kinda category that needs to be met. Second, there is the discussion of the 'context' of prototype suits...The context of DD running around in all black or spidey in a ski mask, scarlet witch.., you've simply never seen this anywhere else.

Then there is this new issue of how enthusiastic people look in marketing? Before I list off all the other places this occurs outside of FFINO(see everywhere), especially in movie posters, I'd have to ask why such a thing would matter. This isn't some miss america stage where such a thing is very much the point, it's a still from a dramatic film.

People who are long time fans of the material don't enjoy Fox's liberal interpretation of characters they have grown up loving, especially in light of the way other studios have been handling their comic book properties. It's very easy to understand, Marvin.

Like I said, I've never seen pages and pages, mods et all.
These circumstances you are in fact describing have been present for alot of movies. More to the point sequels and produced by people with far less celebrated pedigree. What is it about this film that hits your circumstances far more than anything that has come prior. Other than some what 'other studios' are supposedly doing. Or is that it? Cause I was told it wasn't.
I mean doesn't every single xmen movie meet this evil criteria? Where are it's pages and pages? Outside of an actual thread dedicated to skepticism that is.

I for one do recall all the outcry marvel generates. It's what makes the idea that they would certainly produce something 'better', wishful thinking imo.

 

[TeeKay]

Except DD's prototype suit looked better and was actually influenced by Frank Millar's run. Wanda's costume looked better. Its not really about whether these FF costumes resemble canon or not. Its about them being goddamn awful. Springs on Reed's costume, really? Lawd have mercy they even have vents on Johnny's suit smh.

I for one do recall all the outcry marvel generates. It's what makes the idea that they would certainly produce something 'better', wishful thinking imo.

Not in the costume department. Even their so called prototype costumes have been far better than the catastrophe we're looking at here with the FF.

 

[Eddie]

The fire guy gets hot, though. Obviously his costume needs vents. How do you suggest the fire guy keep cool if he has no vents? A fire guy with no vented clothing... nope, I don't think I could believe that.

 

[TeeKay]

The fire guy gets hot, though. Obviously his costume needs vents. How do you suggest the fire guy keep cool if he has no vents? A fire guy with no vented clothing... nope, I don't think I could believe that.

He needs some fresh air to come through those vents. His body can get quite warm you know.

 

[Dasher10]

Someone needs to photoshop the title of the next Divergent film on this so we can see how many people it fools. This costumes would be a million times more at home in that franchise.

I can't unsee it now.

 

[Best]

The rights

 

[Marvin]

Except DD's prototype suit looked better and was actually influenced by Frank Millar's run. Wanda's costume looked better. Its not really about whether these FF costumes resemble canon or not. Its about them being goddamn awful. Springs on Reed's costume, really? Lawd have mercy they even have vents on Johnny's suit smh.


Not in the costume department. Even their so called prototype costumes have been far better than the catastrophe we're looking at here with the FF.

When you say "better"
I assume you mean you liked them more.
But yes, it's not about canon, nor should it be unless someone actually wants to defend all canon as being 'better' than any single artists interpretation. That in itself is stupid considering how many times artists come along and 'improve' on something in canon(See Miller).

As for springs followed by face palm. It's almost ironic because they aren't confirmed to be springs nor do they look like them. Not sure what exactly is so wrong about vents in this circumstance, it's not like they added vents to spiderman or something. The simple mention that he has cooling issues in controlling his powers or simply can't turn them off on his own accord adds a context...
This is almost literally like pointing out that they gave Pietro treaded running shoes(literally) and how it's pointless logic in the face of that sleek costume he's always worn. Ironman isn't the only character that should get to enjoy the context of function over form.

I didn't know Wanda was wearing a costume tbh.

 

[Dasher10]

The fans have turned on Marvel many times. Thor 2, Agents of SHIELD's early days, the whole Edgar Wright fiasco, recently AoU (though to a lesser degree), etc. People aren't the Marvel drones others make them out to be.

Peyton Reed was booed at Marvel's Comic Con panel last year.

Again, I dislike the liberties taken with Ant-Man even more than the ones taken with Fantastic Four but I'd never boo Peyton Reed. I plan on seeing both films this summer anyway, provided that reviews are good.

Yeah, that means having to live with an elderly Hank Pym and a young Reed Richards but I won't turn down a good film.

And Age of Ultron is what the first Avengers should have been. I get the hate for Hulk/Widow but other than that, it was a very good film.

 

[Eddie]

It's such a shame Marvel won't produce merchandise for this film. Now children everywhere will have to go to junkyards and salvage multiple stereos just to make a single Human Torch costume.