Fant4stic Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 32

[Sleiek]

It's only that big to keep a clean format heightwise.

 

[See Cap Run]

So if I purchased the four Crush flavors and got myself a free movie ticket, I assume that would still contribute to the movie's box office revenue? If so, I'll just wait for it to be on Redbox/Netflix/the library.

 

[Eddie]

So they ARE giving away free tickets to pad out that box office. Sheesh.

 

[See Cap Run]

So they ARE giving away free tickets to pad out that box office. Sheesh.

Well, I bought a few packs of Schick ST2 razors in 2012 and got a free movie ticket to The Amazing Spider-Man since I have to shave anyway and those razors work well for me. I'm one of the few Earthlings who don't like soda however. ;-)

 

[Eddie]

It's not an uncommon promotion, but it does pad the numbers. Making the MARVEL so prominent in these promotions is also a pretty blatant push to sucker the GA into putting their butts in the seats. I'm curious who's footing the bill on these tickets. I'm guessing Fox, but it could be the soda company.

 

[RAE072]

Ha. So you have to buy all four to get one free ticket.

At probably around 5.49 each(according to Target's pricing), and then after tax you're probably going to spend around 24 bucks.

You might as well just buy a goddamn ticket.

 

[Eddie]

Eh, Crush goes on sale quite a bit in my area. It's usually less than $4 on sale. It's still impractical to buy four packs of soda just for the tickets, but many Americans buy lots of soda anyway (my family included).

That said, I'd sooner use Crush cardboard boxes in the fireplace than get the codes for a ticket to Fant4stic.

 

[fantasticfan]

http://collider.com/x-men-fantastic...utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=collidersocial

 

[TeeKay]

Are they going to cross over? I thought they couldn't do that.

 

[Eddie]

If Fox goes forward with that crossover their investors should start questioning if their money is being spent well. Ignoring fanboy feelings on how awesome crossovers are and approaching it from a financial perspective, it makes no business sense. With no merchandise money coming in, you're really just looking at the numbers for the film itself with these Fox Marvel movies. Fox gives a larger cut of the box office to Marvel for Fantastic Four than they do for X-Men. There's no reasonable way that a crossover would see Marvel receiving X-Men money and not the higher percentage Fantastic Four money. Let's say the crossover costs $150 million and makes $600 million. Fox then has to deduct Marvel's FF deal cut. If, however, they do a crossover between X-Men and New Mutants at the same budget it's likely it would bring in similar numbers (no tracking has Fant4stic bringing in the kind of money the X-films have done, so it wouldn't be likely to provide any larger of a boost than New Mutants) and they'd only have to give Marvel the smaller X-Men cut. There's also the issue of actor contracts. Using up an X-Men actor appearance in a movie that will make less money on the investment than an actual X-Men film is not smart business.

 

[MadVillainy]

I'll believe it when I see it

 

[Zarex]

Are they going to cross over? I thought they couldn't do that.

We've got a lot of info suggesting a merger of the two separate Marvel licensing agreements would require the approval of the IP holder - just as FOX needs Mama Marvel's approval for the TV show.

In any case, we know FOX was in negotiation to release the FF family rights right before FFINO went into production. And FOX announced a TV show that cannot be made without wetting Ike's beak. So we probably shouldn't hold our breath for a crossover absolutely no one is asking for.

 

[RAE072]

http://collider.com/x-men-fantastic...utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=collidersocial

So many coulds and ifs.

 

[Docker2.0]

I doubt that a crossover will happen. This is all just talk, trying to build up the F4 brand under Fox. By promising a crossover, it means they are a part of a bigger universe which isn't happening. I honestly don't understand Fox's thinking because it seems they are barely breaking even with F4. The last Xmen film did good but not sure F4 will bring in much of a profit. I especially think the Fox-verse after XM:AoA is doomed because Jackman is leaving as well as most of the other stars. I honestly think the MCU and DCCU will completely drown out the Fox verse. The only saving grace they have right now is Deadpool and I honestly don't know how much money he can bring in being R rated.

 

[Sithborg]

(looks at Kingsman and Mad Max)

A good amount of money.

 

[Docker2.0]

(looks at Kingsman and Mad Max)

A good amount of money.

Was that a response to my post?

 

[Saitou Hajime]

(looks at Kingsman and Mad Max)

A good amount of money.

Pretty average numbers even for its rating, and these are GREAT films. Dredd, Watchmen, and both Kick Ass movies have abysmal numbers.

 

[ThePhantasm]

(looks at Kingsman and Mad Max)

A good amount of money.

Mad Max went a little over breaking even. That's not "a good amount of money."

 

[Sithborg]

Mad Max went a little over breaking even. That's not "a good amount of money."

For an R-rated movie of a fairly old, kind of obscure franchise? And some tough competition. I would say it did pretty good.

We aren't talking blockbusters here. And I doubt Deadpool will be a blockbuster. But, not all movies need to be super high expense blockbuster type movies.

 

[Flint Marko]

Deadpool will do pretty well I think. But yeah, I'm extremely skeptical that this crossover that no one is asking for will ever be made.

 

[psylockolussus]

http://collider.com/x-men-fantastic...utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=collidersocial

 

[psylockolussus]

For an R-rated movie of a fairly old, kind of obscure franchise? And some tough competition. I would say it did pretty good.

We aren't talking blockbusters here. And I doubt Deadpool will be a blockbuster. But, not all movies need to be super high expense blockbuster type movies.

Mad Max almost doubled Kingsman's production budget which was just $82 million. While Mad Max cost around $150 million. However, I think WB is fine with its box-office performance in North America.

 

[Orba]

Its from Latino Review which can be very hit and miss when it comes to Marvel scoops.

http://www.latino-review.com/news/the-fantastic-four-could-meet-the-x-men-onscreen-in-2018

Also I've been trying to figure out where they got idea from, they don't give much on that. I did notice in another of their new stories that they write a couple of lines that make me wonder if they got the idea from a Sony hack e-mail.

http://www.latino-review.com/news/a...riving-spider-man-sony-email-raises-questions

It should be noted that she's not talking about the Fantastic Four/X-Men crossover, because that film is all ready mentioned earlier in that list- slated for July 2018.

 

[fantasticfan]

http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/06...h--2-3301802?lt_source=external,manual,manual

 

[Dasher10]

Its from Latino Review which can be very hit and miss when it comes to Marvel scoops.

http://www.latino-review.com/news/the-fantastic-four-could-meet-the-x-men-onscreen-in-2018

Also I've been trying to figure out where they got idea from, they don't give much on that. I did notice in another of their new stories that they write a couple of lines that make me wonder if they got the idea from a Sony hack e-mail.

http://www.latino-review.com/news/a...riving-spider-man-sony-email-raises-questions

[/I]

Looks like Marvel is getting close to a deal with Fox. IMO, merging universes while also bringing the 80s X-Men into the present day is what I'd like to see happen. A merge keeps the continuity of both universes instead of having to scrap one or both. I'd also make it House of M and have Scarlet Witch be the catalyst for the change since she's present in both universes.

If Marvel and Fox are getting close to a deal that would allow something like a Fantastic Four/X-Men crossover and an X-Factor TV show to happen and it doesn't involve merging universes, Marvel should still work out something with Fox along the lines of the Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch deal where Marvel gets shared rights to some of Fox's characters. Namely Viper, Taskmaster, Kang, the Shi'Ar, the Brood, Juggernaut and the Badoon.

I'd still like a merge better since it opens up doors for both companies over IP which neither studio can develop due to the current deals and means that there won't need to be a reboot for characters who everyone is familiar with. Marvel gets to adapt War of Kings, Celestial Madonna, Annihilation and Galactic Storm and start a Darkhawk franchise. Fox gets the ability to develop Excalibur while also allowing the FF to get their reserve members who aren't named Wolverine. (Hulk, Spider-Man, Ant-Man, She-Hulk, Ghost Rider, Crystal, Black Panther, Medusa and Namor for those wondering.) We'd also get Spider-Man and Captain Marvel joining the X-Men while Wolverine, Beast, Havok and Rogue would become Avengers. Both studios win.