Fant4stic Fantastic Four Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 5

[First Avenger]

Talk about inferiority complex. Do they have problems.

 

[Tymminator]

Yeah google "Xmen fans complex"

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qiQAw0-bPz1nPH-xsuEf5G24_-wa8Yeb7C5-iu6fdYY/edit

You'll get sent to that and to CBR's thread where

These people are so pissed that The Avengers-who were initially more popular than the X-Men, but were later passed for 20 years(1980s-2000) only to be overtaken by the Avengers again. They think Marvel doesn't want "their most popular characters to thrive" even though maybe two mutants have ever held a solo series for a 100+ issues.

Despite publishing 5 X-books at a time, despite putting Brian Michael Bendis on the X titles, they are persecuted-just like their X-heroes.

The Fantastic Four were lumped in, but after this bomb, they've retreated back because they never cared about this IP, just like Fox.

It's life imitating art at it's finest.

an excerpt from the google doc:

Oh, that's just too much.

I can't even find one appropriate smiley to convey my thoughts on this, I guys I could use several but...wow.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

The fun thing is,if you go to the Apocalypse boards,Every now and then they start talking trash about MCU,because apparently they can't just talk about the thread's darn movie. Last day one of Fox loyalists said Civil War was going to be CWINO,just like Daredevil was going to be DDINO because of his black costume. It's all Real.

They do this sort of thing all the time. Complain that we have to see Fantastic Four before we can judge it for ourselves and then bash several Marvel films sight unseen themselves. Those people (not all of those in support of this film, but you all know who it is I'm talking about) are hypocrites, plain and simple.

 

[First Avenger]

They do this sort of thing all the time. Complain that we have to see Fantastic Four before we can judge it for ourselves and then bash several Marvel films sight unseen themselves. Those people (not all of those in support of this film, but you all know who it is I'm talking about) are hypocrites, plain and simple.

It's also pretty hilarious.

 

[starscream22]

Yeah, for a little while certain people kept claiming we (the actual Fantastic Four fans) were all Disney employees over on the X-boards (shocker, I know). I used a smartalec sig about being Walt's frozen head for awhile after that. Worst of all? One of those people (won't name them, figure it out yourself, it's super easy) said at one point that they wish they worked for Fox, this person constantly hyped up Fox films that weren't even Marvel related, and said Fox should plant people in their Comic-Con audience.

The "positive" crew that blindly supports this film has been insufferable. It's been wonderful watching this whole thing explode in the faces of Fox, Trank, and the blind loyalists.

Amen!

What's crazy enough is that if this film would've done Antman's numbers we wouldn't have heard the end of it.... There'd be smiley faces and classic biggrin's in every post like: "Hi F4 loyalist! t:" How's your day going? t:"

And could you imagine Trank and Millar's replies...? *shudders*

 

[starscream22]

It fell out of the top 12 at Box Office Mojo and is too low to be shown on the friday list ! How can we mock it if it's too low to be counted?
Oh wait.....
Maybe if we look hard enough "we'll see it anyway."

 

[starscream22]

Only one thing can make all of this sweeter....hopefully we will hear something before the end of the year.

The end of November would be perfect! Instead of Turkey Fox's lot could dine on Crow. t:

 

[Flint Marko]

Pictured: Doom's loyal servant collecting Doom to put him in his comic accurate armor

Spoiler

Nothing says sequel hook quite like getting disintegrated!

This killed me. Keep up the good work, Eddie

 

[starscream22]

Yeah google "Xmen fans complex"

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qiQAw0-bPz1nPH-xsuEf5G24_-wa8Yeb7C5-iu6fdYY/edit

You'll get sent to that and to CBR's thread where

These people are so pissed that The Avengers-who were initially more popular than the X-Men, but were later passed for 20 years(1980s-2000) only to be overtaken by the Avengers again. They think Marvel doesn't want "their most popular characters to thrive" even though maybe two mutants have ever held a solo series for a 100+ issues.

Despite publishing 5 X-books at a time, despite putting Brian Michael Bendis on the X titles, they are persecuted-just like their X-heroes.

The Fantastic Four were lumped in, but after this bomb, they've retreated back because they never cared about this IP, just like Fox.

It's life imitating art at it's finest.

an excerpt from the google doc:

2) If you had two things, and on one you earned 100% of the revenues from the efforts that you put into making it, and the other you earned a much smaller percentage for the same amount of time and effort, you’d be more likely to concentrate more heavily on the first, wouldn’t you?” ~Brevoort

Common sense! I've been saying this for years now. Yet shellfish entitlement and blatant ignorance prevents people from understanding simple math and good business sense.

Instead of Fox and Sony ripping Marvel off one of them should've purchased the company before Disney had the sense to! So if you're that content with the Fox-men movies then don't complain about not having anything else X-men or F4 oriented.

The X-men and F4 fans who don't even like these Fox films are the real group that's suffering here so you wont get any sympathy from me when a Fox fan is complaining: "Why aren't there any bone claw toys in the Marvel section?!"

 

[Krystal]

Good news for Fox/Trank loyalists....
FFINO took 18th place this weekend!
It beat Inside Out, which took 19th. Now it only needs $288 million to catch Inside Out's domestic haul.

 

[Tymminator]

I'm a little shocked "Inside Out" is 19th.

 

[Krystal]

I do find it weird that after all the flak Fox took during production that one guy didn't say, " the main complaint of the fans is...."
And then they create a post credits sting of a 100% comic accurate Dr Doom watching the final battle thru the eyes of his replica (who is sending a live feed back to Latveria)--he nods and says, "Now they think they're safe." He turns from his massive array of advanced equipment walks by his cowering servants and doombot guards onto an open terrace of what turns out to be his castle and looks down on the city of Doomstadt.

Yeah the movie would still have stunk and bombed, BUT considering all the money they spent on reshoots and saved on 3D conversion-- why not do one freakin scene that would show fans that "we know what you want and here is an example."
Instead they end it with a blatant rip off of Age of Ultron.

 

[Krystal]

I'm a little shocked "Inside Out" is 19th.

It's been out well over 2 months and it's still bringing in some money for Pixar.
This is FFINO 4th and last week of release where it will make any money AT ALL

 

[InCali]

Good news for Fox/Trank loyalists....
FFINO took 18th place this weekend!
It beat Inside Out, which took 19th. Now it only needs $288 million to catch Inside Out's domestic haul.

Oh please don't put this movie down and just pick out the things that make things sound bad. According to Box Office Mojo, it is in a virtual tie for 17th over the weekend and not 18th. You are SO biased and are always trying to make it sound like this movie is doing really poorly.

Sure, it got passed by some poorly reviewed Vacation remake that opened 9 days before it did and on Sunday it was behind Ricki and the Flash; which opened when it did; and a very poorly reviewed Pixels starring Adam Sandler which opened 2 weeks before it did; and by Trainwreck that opened 3 weeks before it did (but Trainwreck got really GOOD reviews). You never said it was a whole $9K ahead of Inside Out which opened 7 weeks before it did as well as a WHOPPING $45K ahead to a VERY WELL reviewed Shaun the Sheep.

You guys and gals are just so, like, y'know negative about this movie. t:

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Boxoffice.com has it at 16th, haters. t:

 

[Tymminator]

It's been out well over 2 months and it's still bringing in some money for Pixar.
This is FFINO 4th and last week of release where it will make any money AT ALL

I know, just still shocked that's where it is.

 

[JKKS085]

2.51M behind Total Recall (2012) after 24 days of release. The gap is getting bigger.

 

[InCali]

2.51M behind Total Recall (2012) after 24 days of release. The gap is getting bigger.

Does anyone think it WILL bring in another 2.5+M? Given these numbers, I can't see it.

I think it ends its run under 55M DOM.

 

[Krystal]

I am shamed for gloating about is failure, shamed I wished for this, shamed I secretly hope Fox is losing even more money than we assume, shamed that I am glad the cast had their arrogant words stuffed down their throats, shamed that I hope that the blind boosters are devastated by it's failure, shamed that I knew they could never just say, " yep you guys were right, its simply awful"---and therefore have no regret about mocking them.
I feel guilty for not feeling guity.

 

[Tymminator]

The supporters have totally abandoned this thread and also pretty much this forum.

 

[InCali]

I am shamed for gloating about is failure, shamed I wished for this, shamed I secretly hope Fox is losing even more money than we assume, shamed that I am glad the cast had their arrogant words stuffed down their throats, shamed that I hope that the blind boosters are devastated by it's failure, shamed that I knew they could never just say, " yep you guys were right, its simply awful"---and therefore have no regret about mocking them.
I feel guilty for not feeling guity.

After reading this, I feel......very confused. t:

The thing that sort of bums me out is that I just wanted to see a good FF movie. I had every intention of watching it opening day, but every indication was that it was SO BAD, that I just couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger.

Maybe if I'm home late some evening with absolutely nothing to do and if it gets picked up by KDOC, KCET, ION, or some other high profile network ( ), I might start to watch it until something more interesting happens; like maybe I hear some ice cubes fall into the freezer's ice tray and it reminds me that I want a drink. Or maybe until my dog starts to lick its foot.

 

[Krystal]

The thing is that I was not a fan of Potter, Hunger Games, 50 Shades, Twilight, Divergent or a dozen other properties before they were adapted for the movies.
If I had visited web sites for those franchises as those movies were being made and the fans were upset and griping about all the changes and fearing it would flop and saying those making it had no respect etc.----
I may have felt they were silly, too involved, overreacting, or maybe just wrong, BUT I would not have engaged loyal fans in a many months long debate about a property I really didn't know or care about.
Because I'm not a contrarian jerk who likes to argue just for the sake of arguing.
Repeating "All I care about is if it turns out good."& " let's wait and see."---endlessly.
Really? That's all you care about? Then shut your trap wait till it opens and if it's a hit come back and say, "I told you it would turn out ok."
No, for sport you wanted to bait and antagonize loyal fans for whom this meant a lot---especially because if they got this wrong it might be many years till we got another chance.
And if Fox was monitoring these types of boards they could say, " a decent number of fans support our vision."
Wrong, they weren't fans, they just wanted to play devils advocate for a year about a subject they didn't know about or care about.

 

[Tymminator]

The thing is that I was not a fan of Potter, Hunger Games, 50 Shades, Twilight, Divergent or a dozen other properties before they were adapted for the movies.
If I had visited web sites for those franchises as those movies were being made and the fans were upset and griping about all the changes and fearing it would flop and saying those making it had no respect etc.----
I may have felt they were silly, too involved, overreacting, or maybe just wrong, BUT I would not have engaged loyal fans in a many months long debate about a property I really didn't know or care about.
Because I'm not a contrarian jerk who likes to argue just for the sake of arguing.
Repeating "All I care about is if it turns out good."& " let's wait and see."---endlessly.
Really? That's all you care about? Then shut your trap wait till it opens and if it's a hit come back and say, "I told you it would turn out ok."
No, for sport you wanted to bait and antagonize loyal fans for whom this meant a lot---especially because if they got this wrong it might be many years till we got another chance.
And if Fox was monitoring these types of boards they could say, " a decent number of fans support our vision."
Wrong, they weren't fans, they just wanted to play devils advocate for a year about a subject they didn't know about or care about.

Can't argue with this.

 

[JKKS085]

The thing is that I was not a fan of Potter, Hunger Games, 50 Shades, Twilight, Divergent or a dozen other properties before they were adapted for the movies.
If I had visited web sites for those franchises as those movies were being made and the fans were upset and griping about all the changes and fearing it would flop and saying those making it had no respect etc.----
I may have felt they were silly, too involved, overreacting, or maybe just wrong, BUT I would not have engaged loyal fans in a many months long debate about a property I really didn't know or care about.
Because I'm not a contrarian jerk who likes to argue just for the sake of arguing.
Repeating "All I care about is if it turns out good."& " let's wait and see."---endlessly.
Really? That's all you care about? Then shut your trap wait till it opens and if it's a hit come back and say, "I told you it would turn out ok."
No, for sport you wanted to bait and antagonize loyal fans for whom this meant a lot---especially because if they got this wrong it might be many years till we got another chance.
And if Fox was monitoring these types of boards they could say, " a decent number of fans support our vision."
Wrong, they weren't fans, they just wanted to play devils advocate for a year about a subject they didn't know about or care about.

I personally put self appointed guardians of the temple who don't want to see any change to their beloved properties who went through as many changes as you can think of during decades of publication in the very same bag as contrarians.
If it was for the "loyal fanbase", Nolan's Joker shouldn't exist, GoTG would suck because Drax wasn't engineered by Kronos and infused with the spirit of Arthur Douglas, Trevor Slattery would be the worst thing that ever happened in a cbm, Superman should still wear his red briefs instead of the kick-a** suit we got in MoS ... and I can go on and on. Some people cannot get the difference between cosmetic changes, useful changes that are dictated by the story, by the need to update some outdated cliches and changes that affect the very core of an IP.

I'm not coming in defense of those who defended and are still defending that abomination of a movie but lets not pretend fanboyism is doing the genre any service either.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

The supporters have totally abandoned this thread and also pretty much this forum.

That's because they feel...well... stupid.

They lost the battle and the war.