F'dup Chapters in American History(The Trump Years) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 29

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If Thiel can destroy Gawker, Bezos will annihilate National Enquirer.

Pecker and Trump deserve to be taken down.

It makes perfect sense that the Enquirer's story about Bezos' sexting his mistress was politically motivated. It's blowing up in Fatty's face most spectacularly.
 
Why is the National Enquirer so concerned about Bezos saying they're politically-motivated when everyone already knows they silenced two stories to protect Trump?

They're trying to protect a cat that's already out of the bag.
 
Why is the National Enquirer so concerned about Bezos saying they're politically-motivated when everyone already knows they silenced two stories to protect Trump?

They're trying to protect a cat that's already out of the bag.

Because if it was politically motivated, it would have likely run a foul of AMI's deal with Mueller. I think they mainly just wanted Bezos to not raise a stink and kill his own investigation.

Which, going to blackmail isn't exactly going to help with the situation.

Also, Bezos isn't exactly being subtle about who may have been helping AMI hack his phone. Which is another thing that will likely get them screwed.
 
If Trump is blackmailing those congressmen then its gonna be a hot time in the town when Trump loses that leverage.

And let's consider the possibility that Russia could be behind all of this blackmail. Itd certainly explain why the GOP has protected Trump and tried to kill the Russia investigation. Could the explanation for the past 2 years of bizarre GOP behaviour really be as simple as blackmail?

And consider the consequences if it is blackmail and it became public. Another nation getting their tool installed as president and blackmailing congress. If that became public... it would destroy public trust in the government. Not just that, but I dont think Congress would be able to deny that the whole thing qualifies as a serious act of war against America. People would want Russia's blood.

Edit: Oh and I just have to :lmao: that anyone would try to blackmail Bezos. Hes worth $137 billion. His company is an impregnable online retailer juggernaut. He doesnt need to worry about public opinion or public support. He doesnt need to pretend to be a saint. Trying to blackmail him is the equivalent of a human trying to threaten a dragon. Like seriously, wtf did they think was going to happen?
 
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I WISH that was something I could believe was real. But I think we all know that the reality is that unlike genre fiction, there's unlikely some single thing that with a silver bullet will get slain and then we can all just get along.



Graham, Cruz etc., the Evangelicals? They don't need blackmail to explain support for Trump. They are just fulfilling the slide into reactionary madness that everyone who wasn't a Conservative/Libertarian/Evangelical could see coming decades ago.

Frankly, while I think that to oppose Trump that there needs to be a big tent coalition... There's still a part, a very big part, that wants to side-eye many of the "Never Trump" GOP/Conservatives that are ostensibly allied with the "Resistance". More should come out with more verve against Trump, and we NEED them to. And they should... But there's still the fact that there's some real soul searching and self analysis that the Conservatives/Libertarians/Evangelicals must do to stop this level of cluster****ness from occurring again in the near future and given how the Republican Party has acted for going on five decades now I don't see it a real reckoning happening after Donald's time is over. Because he didn't happen in a vacuum. He's not the cause of our problems politically, at least not the truly important problems. And no fake "centrists" the Democratic Party and it's rank and file, for all their flaws aren't the root cause either, nor is their contribution on the same level of magnitude to what has been the CHOICES of the GOP for fifty years. Saying that both sides are the same is just a way to say that NOBODY is to really blame and that we all should just keep on doing what we are doing without guilt or shame, politically speaking.

Trump is the inevitable result of the party that would give Newt Gingrich any important standing or ability to chart a course on policy and rhetoric within the GOP. A guy like Joe Scarborough would clap back with a "Yeah, but it was Republicans that chased Newt out of D.C.!" To which I say... Gingrich on every level that should really matter was always morally and intellectually bankrupt. He never should have been given the standing he had in the first place and everyone at the time that wasn't a card carrying GOPer who was paying attention knew it.

Trump is the inevitable result of a group that would elevate an empty suit like Paul Ryan base on how supposedly serious and scholarly he is when it comes to policy and commitment to fiscal conservative ideals. Sent back to congress again and again to rise to the Speakership while BS-ing the rest of the country but ESPECIALLY Republicans that his agenda was all about balanced budgets. And where are we on those issues? It seems that once again the impact of policy on real people, the majority of whom aren't the wealthy donor class, isn't as important as tax cuts. The state of the world today, as anyone who has had their eyes and ears open since the year 2001 should realize, is the way it is at least partially because for at least election cycles, the majority of Republicans decided that above all else, tax cuts were more important than literally anything else. The gross incompetence of the Bush II administration on the world stage, the staggering loss of life, the spread of terrorism, the general instability in the world order... Apparently all worth it to get those tax cuts. And that same mindset seems to have survived into the Trump era because Ryan as Speaker hand waved possible criminal conspiracy with a hostile foreign power, obstruction of Justice, varying and long lived financial crimes, racial demagoguery, gross incompetence (if one wishes to be charitable...) and an authoritarian character and proclivities... All for tax cuts.


Time and again I find myself getting resentful at the David Brooks, Bill Kristols, Bret Stephens or John Podhoretz, Ralph Peters and Andrew Napolitano types out there who can for sure be seen out there daily talking about the unfitness of Trump and were doing so in late 2015 and throughout 2016. They and those like them are held up as examples of principle over party. And, yeah... I guess that is the truth. Here's the problem though... The underlying political landscape that made a run and win like Trump possible? Yeah... The hand prints of those above named are all over that. Many prominent Never Trumpers themselves were part of bald faced lies to the American public going back at least to the second war in Iraq and were part and parcel of the Right Wing Echo Chamber that trafficked in doomsday prognostication, hyperbolic criticism to the point of zero resemblance to reality and demonization of political opponents through all 8 years of Obama's two terms (And which they Beta Tested during the previous Democratic administration of Bill Clinton). They want to look at themselves (and they for sure want the public in the country at large to look at them) as being dedicated to principles and morals over political agendas or ideologies. Sure... They are rock ribbed American Conservatives, BUT... They aren't Glenn Beck/Alex Jones Wing Nuts... RIGHT? Doesn't opposition to Trump prove this? Except that again, none of them in particular and the American conservative voter in general, want to look at themselves and the choices they have made and what they've chosen to believe in as contributing to a Donald Trump not only running on the GOP ticket but winning it and the presidency ultimately. That happened because of the policy and rhetoric that I would say all the Never Trumper Conservatives actively took part in for decades. Unlike the Democratic Party, the fringe extremists were allowed to take over and thrive while promulgating a worldview that is untethered from facts, history or evidence. They indeed seeded the wind and are now reaping the whirlwind.

So while I really wish that the GOP's supine nature when it comes to dealing with Trump's obvious shadiness was something as simple as them being strong armed against their will I am sure the problem is a lot more deep and thorny than just kompromat. Because my gut tells me even the Never Trumper Conservatives, however this ends, will not honestly look at themselves and come to grips with even the possibility that perhaps what's happened to the Republican Party isn't about some outside force reshaping it, or of a lack of conviction towards upholding "Conservative/Libertarian/Evangelical" values and ideals. Maybe, as they are being practiced, understood and put into action by conservatives, along with the character of the philosophy's adherents themselves... Maybe it's the values and ideals and beliefs in and of themselves that are the problem? Maybe there's something inherently wrong when the base, the most ideologically driven component of any political party, embraces a figure like Trump with zero second thoughts.
 
Because if it was politically motivated, it would have likely run a foul of AMI's deal with Mueller. I think they mainly just wanted Bezos to not raise a stink and kill his own investigation.

Which, going to blackmail isn't exactly going to help with the situation.

Also, Bezos isn't exactly being subtle about who may have been helping AMI hack his phone. Which is another thing that will likely get them screwed.

It's not like we've seen that type of show before...

The News International phone-hacking scandal was a controversy involving the now defunct News of the World and other British newspapers published by News International, a subsidiary of News Corporation. Employees of the newspaper were accused of engaging in phone hacking, police bribery, and exercising improper influence in the pursuit of stories. Whilst investigations conducted from 2005 to 2007 appeared to show that the paper's phone hacking activities were limited to celebrities, politicians, and members of the British Royal Family, in July 2011 it was revealed that the phones of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler, relatives of deceased British soldiers, and victims of the 7 July 2005 London bombings had also been hacked. The resulting public outcry against News Corporation and its owner Rupert Murdoch led to several high-profile resignations, including that of Murdoch as News Corporation director, Murdoch's son James as executive chairman, Dow Jones chief executive Les Hinton, News International legal manager Tom Crone, and chief executive Rebekah Brooks. The commissioner of London's Metropolitan Police Service (MPS), Sir Paul Stephenson, also resigned. Advertiser boycotts led to the closure of the News of the World on 10 July 2011, after 168 years of publication.[1] Public pressure shortly forced News Corporation to cancel its proposed takeover of the British satellite broadcaster BSkyB.

The prime minister David Cameron announced on 6 July 2011 that a public inquiry, known as the Leveson Inquiry, would look into phone hacking and police bribery by the News of the World, consider the wider culture and ethics of the British newspaper industry and that the Press Complaints Commission would be replaced "entirely".[1][2] A number of arrests and convictions followed, most notably of the former News of the World managing editor Andy Coulson.

Murdoch and his son, James, were summoned to give evidence at the Leveson Inquiry. Over the course of his testimony, Rupert Murdoch admitted that a cover-up had taken place within the News of the World to hide the scope of the phone hacking.[3] On 1 May 2012, a parliamentary select committee report concluded that Murdoch "exhibited wilful blindness to what was going on in his companies and publications" and stated that he was "not a fit person to exercise the stewardship of a major international company".[4] On 3 July 2013, Channel 4 News broadcast a secret tape in which Murdoch dismissively claims that investigators were "totally incompetent" and acted over "next to nothing" and excuses his papers' actions as "part of the culture of Fleet Street".[5]

News International phone hacking scandal - Wikipedia

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May the Enquirer one day reach the same fate.
 
News of the World would have been fine had they not hacked the phone of the murdered schoolgirl (missing at the time and their actions influenced the police investigation as it made it appear the girl was still alive) ... that's what did them in.

Will Bezo be the one that takes down the inquirer?
 
News of the World would have been fine had they not hacked the phone of the murdered schoolgirl (missing at the time and their actions influenced the police investigation as it made it appear the girl was still alive) ... that's what did them in.

Will Bezo be the one that takes down the inquirer?

We will see. Maddow last night pointed out how the deal Pecker and AMI have in regards to the Cohen/Trump Campaign Finance case with the Feds has strings attached in regards to newly commited crimes. Well... Now we have this Bezos thing and you have to ask WHY would anyone put themselves or their company at risk like that given what legal trouble they just barely missed?

Which makes me wonder if the Bezos story will fork over into Trumpworld ir if this is about the Saudi kingdom trying to flex over the Kashogi killing the WP will not let go of? Or will it dovetail into both?
 
saw that Maddow sequence after posting that... it's an interesting detail on the whole SNAFU.

Also seeing how Gaetz reacted to his stupidity yesterday.... Dude is a sick ****.
 
Blackmail and extortion is Russian tradecraft to keep people in line.

The Washington Post - Was tabloid exposé of Bezos affair just juicy gossip or a political hit job? (February 5, 2019)

Bezos’s longtime private security consultant, Gavin de Becker, has concluded that the billionaire was not hacked. Rather, de Becker said in an interview, the Enquirer’s scoop about Bezos’s relationship with former TV anchor Lauren Sanchez began with a “politically motivated” leak meant to embarrass the owner of The Post — an effort potentially involving several important figures in Trump’s 2016 campaign.

As the Daily Beast first reported last week, de Becker has publicly named only one subject of his investigation, Michael Sanchez, Lauren’s brother and a pro-Trump Hollywood talent manager who is also an acquaintance of provocative Trump backers Roger Stone and Carter Page.

“We are studying many people who might have been involved in this, and Michael Sanchez is one we’ve spoken with and been looking at,” de Becker told The Post.
 
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Last night and Morning tanTrump, not happy with Schiff (so Schiff is doing something right):

 
So why do people keep confessing and getting arrested?

And the Trump Tower meeting was collusion. An email was sent that the Russians had info on the Clinton campaign. Jr writes back “I love it”. How much more do you need?
 
Mueller has so far gotten indictments and/or guilty pleas from 32 people and three Russian companies, including Trump's national security adviser, campaign chairman, foreign policy adviser, and his longtime personal lawyer.

But yea, "hoax".


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Whitaker starts being problematic from the first question...
 
Yeah, telling the chairman of the committee that his five minutes up is a... bold move to be certain.
 
spent most of his opening statement promoting the wall... and used a murder as a basis to do that, even though the victim's family do not blame immigration one bit.

he also fudged around answering stuff about Mueller to Nadler, then happily spoke about Mueller to Collins.... who is trying to build a conspiracy around CNN getting leaks from the Special Counsel's office.
 
Everyone knew Roger Stone was likely to be indicted as all his buddies were being dragged in. It's not like CNN had to guess in the dark that on a Friday (AKA indictment day) following a big Grand Jury meeting on a Thursday who it could be.
 
Good God.... Whitaker is infuriating. He's being asked yes or no by Dems and he blabbers to waste time, then he quickly and easily answers everything the GOP ask him
 
Attempting to follow the playbook the GOP have been using for the past 2 years.

Not going to work out so well with Dems in a position of power.
 
I can’t tell who is making me angrier, Whitaker or the Republicans sitting up there, grandstanding, spewing conspiracy theories while dismissing legitimate evidence of collusion, and clearly trying to provide cover for him and Trump.
 
I can’t tell who is making me angrier, Whitaker or the Republicans sitting up there, grandstanding, spewing conspiracy theories while dismissing legitimate evidence of collusion, and clearly trying to provide cover for him and Trump.
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It's the Kavanaugh hearing all over again.
 
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