Comics Final Issue of X-Men: Genesis

[OutcryX]

i dont understand this whole retcon thing..i mean i do, but damn what happens when u go back to read the old issue that has been erased? i guess just for good memories. Damn, Adam X was cool.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

They didn't really explain it, I guess they just took DNA from either Christopher or Katherine, but the words came straight from Vulcan's mouth. He's Scott's long lost younger brother. Probably get the full explaination in another issue.

a few possibilities

1) When on route in the plane they were abducted. They were going to see their [Scott and Alex's] grandparents. Why would they go see relatives so far away, well maybe to announce something monumentous, like Katherine Anne being pergnant

2) Perhaps Katherine Anne was raped by D'Ken. This would explain why Vulcan is significantly different from Scott and also why he never caught the attention of Sinister (we assume) since he would have Katherine Anne's and not Summer's DNA. Also could be why Xavier never sensed they were brothers right away.

3) Genetic clone made by Shi'ar. Why abduct humans if you are not using them for something.

4) After his wifes death its possible Christopher had a romance with a Shi'ar woman, perhaps someone who aided his escape.

 

[Darth Wolverine]

So Sway, Petra, Darwin, and Vulcan are the first team that were sent to Krakoa by Xavier? Then they died and he sent Storm and the others out?

 

[kbtoyz902]

On top of that, it appears Gabrielle(Vulcan), has/had the potential to be more powerful than Cyclops prior to his "accident." Xavier mentioned to Moira that he felt that Vulcan could be an X-Man sooner than expected, and not all of it had to do with a tie to Scott, which he never brought up. There was a part where the two trained, and Vulcan was able to do the same thing he did in the caves to Cyclops, control the direction of his beams.

So if he really was strong then, and now it appears he's taken some of the abilities of his peers(the rock formation, the Marvel girl "image", and if there's one for Darwin that I missed, please bring it up), he could be a pretty cool guy to add to the X-Men roster. Hopefully the story has him leave as an X-Men again instead of a dead guy. I think Brubaker has every right to continue writing this guy as a current member, with the way he's explained him.

BTW, Is the new Daredevil hard to pick up on? I LOVE Cap. America, and hopped on deadly genesis because of Brubaker, but I've never read any Daredevil. I want to make sure I won't get it on over my head if I begin reading it.

 

[SMroxs]

a few possibilities

1) When on route in the plane they were abducted. They were going to see their [Scott and Alex's] grandparents. Why would they go see relatives so far away, well maybe to announce something monumentous, like Katherine Anne being pergnant

2) Perhaps Katherine Anne was raped by D'Ken. This would explain why Vulcan is significantly different from Scott and also why he never caught the attention of Sinister (we assume) since he would have Katherine Anne's and not Summer's DNA. Also could be why Xavier never sensed they were brothers right away.

3) Genetic clone made by Shi'ar. Why abduct humans if you are not using them for something.

4) After his wifes death its possible Christopher had a romance with a Shi'ar woman, perhaps someone who aided his escape.

Interesting theories. But as for #2, Vulcan has caught Sinister's attention. The whole 3rd Summers Brother thing started back in X-Men 20-something when Sinister confronted Cylcops in Alaska and told him he wanted to see Cylcops and his "brothers" kept safe (from the Legacy Virus). Or something like that. Cyclops questioned what Sinister meant by "brothers" and Sinister said he just slipped up and really only meant to say brother, as in Alex. But we all know good and well it wasn't just a slip up. Sinister knows about the 3rd brother. Whether he has any interest in him or not remains to be seen!

Since Corsair seemed to know about the third brother from the conversation he and Xavier had (in ghost form) before Havok in Deadly Genesis 3, I'm going to guess that either option 1 or 4 will be correct. Or perhaps D'Ken did rape Katherine and when Corsair escaped from D'Ken he took the baby with him and then dropped if off on Earth. After all it probably would've been way too hard for him to raise the child himself due to the circumstances of its conception.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Interesting theories. But as for #2, Vulcan has caught Sinister's attention. The whole 3rd Summers Brother thing started back in X-Men 20-something when Sinister confronted Cylcops in Alaska and told him he wanted to see Cylcops and his "brothers" kept safe (from the Legacy Virus). Or something like that. Cyclops questioned what Sinister meant by "brothers" and Sinister said he just slipped up and really only meant to say brother, as in Alex. But we all know good and well it wasn't just a slip up. Sinister knows about the 3rd brother. Whether he has any interest in him or not remains to be seen!

Since Corsair seemed to know about the third brother from the conversation he and Xavier had (in ghost form) before Havok in Deadly Genesis 3, I'm going to guess that either option 1 or 4 will be correct. Or perhaps D'Ken did rape Katherine and when Corsair escaped from D'Ken he took the baby with him and then dropped if off on Earth. After all it probably would've been way too hard for him to raise the child himself due to the circumstances of its conception.

There is a good bit of evidence he meant Gambit when he said that (I know what quote you refer) so basically, judging by the Shi'ar connections Sinister most certainly would not know about this kid...especially since Sinister lost contact with Scott for the time during which he became an X-Man.

 

[OutcryX]

a few possibilities

1) When on route in the plane they were abducted. They were going to see their [Scott and Alex's] grandparents. Why would they go see relatives so far away, well maybe to announce something monumentous, like Katherine Anne being pergnant

2) Perhaps Katherine Anne was raped by D'Ken. This would explain why Vulcan is significantly different from Scott and also why he never caught the attention of Sinister (we assume) since he would have Katherine Anne's and not Summer's DNA. Also could be why Xavier never sensed they were brothers right away.

3) Genetic clone made by Shi'ar. Why abduct humans if you are not using them for something.

4) After his wifes death its possible Christopher had a romance with a Shi'ar woman, perhaps someone who aided his escape.

That storyline was already used....the baby that resulted is Adam X...and as far as we know, he has been retconned out of existence....That would be a major slap in the face to take HIS orign and re-write it for Vulcan.....unless of course...she had twins....

 

[ghost113]

I don't know, but i like this Vulcan character.

 

[OutcryX]

I'm kinda coming around to Vulcan as well....I do believe he may remain a villian though....I wouldn't forgive Xavier if he left me to die and then erased everybody who ever knew of my existances' minds. That said...I want Adam X back and I want a full explanation...but since when do the wants of one man ever amount to a hill of beans in this world?(it could happen though)

 

[kbtoyz902]

^Same here. I'd absolutely love him to come out of this situation as a good guy. He's on the sketch cover of the new UXM team post too. It's hard to tell if he's a good guy or not though because his eyes are always the same.

 

[Specter313]

^Same here. I'd absolutely love him to come out of this situation as a good guy. He's on the sketch cover of the new UXM team post too. It's hard to tell if he's a good guy or not though because his eyes are always the same.

Brubaker has said he has plans for this guy to hopefully stay a villain for a good amount of time.

 

[OutcryX]

Hmmm...this may a bit far fetched but...Scott and Alex...dark hair and light hair.....This Vulcan guy and Adam X...dark hair and light hair....just pointing out similarities that could(probably not) come into play in the future.....Would make sense for Corsair, trying to rescue Katherine...discovers she has two new baby boys...Katherine is killed during the rescue atempt, Cosiar only manages to save one child and brings him to Earth....while D'Ken or a member of the royal family raises Adam.....

 

[Specter313]

Hmmm...this may a bit far fetched but...Scott and Alex...dark hair and light hair.....This Vulcan guy and Adam X...dark hair and light hair....just pointing out similarities that could(probably not) come into play in the future.....Would make sense for Corsair, trying to rescue Katherine...discovers she has two new baby boys...Katherine is killed during the rescue atempt, Cosiar only manages to save one child and brings him to Earth....while D'Ken or a member of the royal family raises Adam.....

But why would Corsair abandon him in New York to survive in the streets? No, Vulcan got away from the Shiar on his own. And the colony that he grew up in had other people there besides Shiar. In fact, they had glowing eyes just like him, so it's likely that they were just given DNA of Corsair and/or Katherine and spliced it with DNA from one of their own species, and resulted in Vulcan.

 

[OutcryX]

But why would Corsair abandon him in New York to survive in the streets? No, Vulcan got away from the Shiar on his own. And the colony that he grew up in had other people there besides Shiar. In fact, they had glowing eyes just like him, so it's likely that they were just given DNA of Corsair and/or Katherine and spliced it with DNA from one of their own species, and resulted in Vulcan.

So then his explanation of being a 'brother' would be because he was genetically created in a tube? Thats VERY close to the Gambit as the third brother conclusion....at least it doesnt have him being the love child of Cyclops and Sinister....yet. Also...how does Sinister know of his existance and his relationship to Cyclops...especially if Xavier erased his entire existence....I am hoping the whole team survives, not just Vulcan with all their powers...that would suck

 

[ghost113]

Sinister practically knows everything about the summers family so why wouldn't he know about Vulcan.

 

[Specter313]

Sinister practically knows everything about the summers family so why wouldn't he know about Vulcan.

He probably knew about him, but he knew he was dead all this time.

 

[OutcryX]

Sinister practically knows everything about the summers family so why wouldn't he know about Vulcan.

Probably because he is from outer space and Sinister has always been kind focused on Earth-Bound studies...at least I haven't ever seen or known him to have interests in beings from space...about as far into space and Sinister i have seen was when his Dark Riders battled the X-men on the moon.....

Sinister would only have knowledge of the two children that Christopher and Katherine had PRIOR to them 'dying' in the plane crash. That would be Alex and Scott. Any child born to either after that...would be unknown to him. Which I would want an explanation of HOW he knows..whether it was Adam X or Vulcan..both have Shi'ar connections...that and with Vulcan possibly being 'created' as opposed to born....puzzling. I still think Adam X will have some play or resolution in this story.

 

[Specter313]

So then his explanation of being a 'brother' would be because he was genetically created in a tube? Thats VERY close to the Gambit as the third brother conclusion....at least it doesnt have him being the love child of Cyclops and Sinister....yet. Also...how does Sinister know of his existance and his relationship to Cyclops...especially if Xavier erased his entire existence....I am hoping the whole team survives, not just Vulcan with all their powers...that would suck

He'd be a brother because he shares some DNA with Scott, either through their mothers or fathers. As far as Sinister, Xavier just erased Vulcan from the minds of everyone who knew of this failed mission, so maybe Sinister just found something about it later on.

 

[OutcryX]

He'd be a brother because he shares some DNA with Scott, either through their mothers or fathers. As far as Sinister, Xavier just erased Vulcan from the minds of everyone who knew of this failed mission, so maybe Sinister just found something about it later on.

I know that. Thats why I said it was similar to Clarmeonts revelation of Gambit being the 3rd brother....except this time the rembered to include the parental DNA into the mixture and not Scott's....still is a lame and weak explanation.

 

[Specter313]

I know that. Thats why I said it was similar to Clarmeonts revelation of Gambit being the 3rd brother....except this time the rembered to include the parental DNA into the mixture and not Scott's....still is a lame and weak explanation.

Remember we don't have the full explaination either. Most of this is just speculation on the fans part. I wouldn't be surprised if Brubaker holds a more full explaination off until his run on Uncanny.

 

[kbtoyz902]

^That's probably gonna be the case.

@ the Vulcan as a villain comment. I guess it makes sense since the UXM team is following him through space. Regardless, Vulcan staying around is definitely going to be pretty cool, with or without his ties to Cyclops.

Brubaker hasn't disappointed with his other Marvel books(at least me), so I doubt he's going to that with this. Mostly because this book is probably the one he writes that gets the most attention.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

So then his explanation of being a 'brother' would be because he was genetically created in a tube? Thats VERY close to the Gambit as the third brother conclusion....at least it doesnt have him being the love child of Cyclops and Sinister....yet. Also...how does Sinister know of his existance and his relationship to Cyclops...especially if Xavier erased his entire existence....I am hoping the whole team survives, not just Vulcan with all their powers...that would suck

I think he was created in a tube...read this quote from Brubaker

"What happened to this team, though, will be revealed in Deadly Genesis #6, but it was revealed that Vulcan is related, somehow, to Scott and Alex Summers, that he's their brother."

 

[danielisthor]

IF Sinister knew of Vulcan's existence and ties to Scott and Alex, he still would have believed him dead on the moon and would not have referred to him as trying to keep alive. I think there are more Summer's "brothers" including Adam X and that rat bastard Gambit.

Sinister, in the Colossus:Bloodline Mini, believed that Peter, Mikhail, the cousin and uncle (who's names have escaped me) to have been the last of the Rasputins, But when the panel where the uncle kills himself, Petey Jr was shown being tormented. Obviously, Sinister doesn't know of him. Sinister is not all knowing.

 

[Specter313]

IF Sinister knew of Vulcan's existence and ties to Scott and Alex, he still would have believed him dead on the moon and would not have referred to him as trying to keep alive. I think there are more Summer's "brothers" including Adam X and that rat bastard Gambit.

Sinister, in the Colossus:Bloodline Mini, believed that Peter, Mikhail, the cousin and uncle (who's names have escaped me) to have been the last of the Rasputins, But when the panel where the uncle kills himself, Petey Jr was shown being tormented. Obviously, Sinister doesn't know of him. Sinister is not all knowing.

Yeah, I really wish they somehow worked Pete's son into that mini besides that brief cameo that he had. That was kind of annoying.

 

[Advocate05]

After reading the interview and hearing your explanations. I thik the new member of UXN is Adam X. That would make sense seeing as how Adam X had a similar storyline. And I wouldn't rule out there being more than 4 brothers. I mean Sinister did say "Brothers" being plural. And we always assumed that he meant a third bro, but what if theres MORE. Like 6 or 8? You have to figure ... Corsair was a horn dog. He probably spread his "genetic makeup" on a bunch of hottie space alien females.