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WHAT IF? X-MEN DEADLY GENESIS
Written by DAVID HINE
Pencils & Cover by DAVID YARDIN
In the best-selling and history-making limited series X-Men: Deadly Genesis, Professor X sent a secret team of young mutants to rescue the X-Men from the living island, Krakoa, before he sent the now-famous All-New, All-Different team. This secret second team was destroyed and this eventually led to the deadly corruption of its powerful leader, Vulcan. But what if this second team HAD survived? Today, Vulcan is a celebrity hero who leads a new team of X-Men. But when Krakoa is found drifting in space, it holds a terrible secret that threatens the fate of this new generation of mutants.
48 PGS./Rated T+ ...$3.99

WHAT IF? X-MEN AGE OF APOCALYPSE
Written by RICK REMENDER
Penciled by DAVE WILKINS
Cover by MARKO DJURJEVIC
What if Legion killed Magneto and Xavier? With no leader to create any incarnation of X-Men to resist the onslaught of Apocalypse, the new world is a horrific finalized vision of Apocalypse’s dream. On the dawn of the twenty-year anniversary of the murders of Magneto and Xavier, we follow a small group consisting of Earth’s remaining heroes, led by Nate Summers as they stage a final offensive in an attempt to escape this twisted reality altogether.
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

WHAT IF? WOLVERINE: ENEMY OF THE STATE​

Written by JIMMIE ROBINSON
Penciled by CARMINE DI GIANDOMENICO
Cover by DOUG ALEXANDER
What if the world’s deadliest killing machine was never de-programmed? Over half a year has passed since the Hand took control of Wolverine, forcing him to assassinate one great hero after another. Now only a handful of super-powered beings are left to stop him. Who will risk their life to end the path of death and destruction? Written by the creator of indie sensation BOMB QUEEN.
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

 

[Max J Power]

When do these come out? I'm definately getting the Deadly genesis one.

 

[Specter313]

Wolverine in November, the other two in December.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

hmm.. now the Deadly Genesis could be interesting but I think its far too early for it. We don't really know any of the characters enough to really care about them.

Wolverine Enemy of the State ones a bit sad. Theyve just done the obvious. If he hadn't been deprogrammed he would have been taken out by now. The story would have been more interesting if theyd had a no killing policy hero, like Captain America, spiderman or even cyclops.. who had been forced to beat wolverine to Death to stop him from killing again, and following their reactions and them falling apart.

AOA one actually looks pretty cool. I love the fact its got other non-X heros in it.. and that Nate/Apocalypse hybrid on the cover looks badass!!

 

[Specter313]

WHAT IF? WOLVERINE: ENEMY OF THE STATE
Written by JIMMIE ROBINSON
Penciled by CARMINE DI GIANDOMENICO
Cover by DOUG ALEXANDER
What if the world’s deadliest killing machine was never de-programmed? Over half a year has passed since the Hand took control of Wolverine, forcing him to assassinate one great hero after another. Now only a handful of super-powered beings are left to stop him. Who will risk their life to end the path of death and destruction? Written by the creator of indie sensation BOMB QUEEN.
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

 

[mightiest_mortal]

So wolverine enemy of the state one is gonna just be him going round killing all the heros?
LAME

 

[Specter313]

From wizarduniverse.com (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/001673390.cfm)

RAMPAGE REVISITED
Marvel's What If? Wolverine: Enemy of the State puts a vicious spin on Wolverine's recent history
By Matt Powell

Posted September 15, 2006 9:20 AM

Fans know that Wolverine is the best there is at what he does, but what if "what he does" leaves no hero alive?

You’ll find out this November, in Marvel's What If? Wolverine: Enemy of the State, a tale that revisits Mark Millar’s popular Wolverine story arc, “Enemy of the State.”

The one-shot is written by Jimmie Robinson, with art by Carmine Giandomenico, and stems from a turning point when, instead of being captured by S.H.I.E.L.D. as he was in the original tale, the Hydra-brainwashed Wolverine evades the government agency. As a result, he never receives the deprogramming that ends his murderous mission to wipe out Marvel's heroes.

“I spun a different Wolverine tale, pretty much ripping straight through the Marvel Universe,” said Robinson.

“Wolverine’s been brainwashed for six months, so he’s pretty far gone to the animal side,” said Robinson. “Wolverine and Hydra continue their killing spree, and now the few remaining heroes make a last stand against him.”

United against the rebel X-Man is an unlikely, but imposing, cast of heroes.

“We join Captain America, Sue Richards, Magneto and Kitty Pryde as they plan to trap and contain Wolverine,” said Robinson.

Even with a powerful, opposing team, Robinson promises the Ol’ Caknucklehead won’t sheathe his claws for too long.

“You’ll see us run through heroes in the double-digits and quite a few surprises too,” hinted Robinson.

Although this is a “What If?” book, Giandomenico, doesn’t leave fans guessing on the visuals.

“I tried to achieve a linear drawing in order to keep this book as close as possible to the [original] miniseries, which was masterfully illustrated by John Romita JR.,” said Giandomenico.

When asked how this “What If?” Wolverine would measure up in a fight against the Marvel U. version, Robinson said, “I’d have to give it to the villains.”

“As a fighter, the Hydra Wolverine is just too amped, too fast, and he has Hydra as back up," continued Robinson. "Of course, our 'friendly' Wolverine has backup, too. They’re called the X-Men."

“It would be a pretty good fight,” said Robinson.

 

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This probably counts too since Beast is a central figure in this one:

It was the darkest day in Avengers history. A number of Avengers lost their lives running a gauntlet of foes and sudden catastrophes and in the end it was one of their own who was ultimately responsible. When the dust cleared, Earth's Mightiest Heroes were no more. This was the premise for one of the biggest and most controversial Avengers stories ever, "Avengers: Disassembled," and this November the events of that story will come back to haunt the Avengers, as writer Jeff Parker and artist Aaron Lopresti reexamine that dark day from a different perspective in the one-shot special "What If? Avengers: Disassembled" from Marvel Comics" CBR News spoke with writer Jeff Parker about the book.

November will see the release of two other "What If?" specials that will also reexamine the events of two other huge Marvel stories from recent years, "What If? Spider-Man: The Other" and "What If? Wolverine Enemy of the State." "Editorial thought it would be fun to poke into the recent big events for the current 'What Ifs?' and I was asked to tackle 'Disassembled,'" Parker told CBR News. "So the mission this time: Would you like to go back into a wildly popular and controversial storyline and smack the bees nest again to see what happens- oh, and get that all across in thirty-six pages this time? So I said yes."

The Marvel Universe of Parker's thirty six page tale will be a familiar one to most readers. "It's the 616, and as with most 'What Ifs' there's a key moment when it diverges," Parker explained. "Or possibly not, in this case. I'm going to let the readers decide that."

The title of Parker's story is called "Witch Hunt" and the possible divergent point of the tale happens in the aftermath of "Avengers: Disassembled." "Well, as we know, the Scarlet Witch's power started getting the better of her, she began to lose her grip on reality, and some beloved heroes ended up dead. Dr. Strange shows up to help as the

Avengers' whole world falls apart, and shuts her down. Then Magneto bears her off, and the team calls it quits for a while," Parker stated. "Our story picks up from that point, when Hank McCoy decides that's just not enough information to end on. The curious Beast starts poking into matters further as our Sherlock Holmes, finding evidence and questioning people involved with the help of Ms. Marvel. Or as I call her, the world's hottest Watson as drawn by Aaron Lopresti. Beast becomes convinced that Wanda Maximoff didn't act alone, and as their investigation progresses, it becomes clear that the threat isn't gone at all."

As The Beast and Ms Marvel's investigation into the actual threat progresses, they will face opposition from both friends and foes. "We get to see some neat things like Ms. Marvel trying to protect Dr. Strange's body from a disgusting demon, but the main obstacle is probably the surviving Avengers themselves," Parker said. "As far as they're concerned it's all over, and digging back into the horrible day is just going to make things worse."

Parker chose to make his story a mystery because it allowed him to tell a different type of "What If?" tale. "I wanted to do something different with the 'What If?' format, which usually skips through time showing how events changed, the old 'and so he became Spider-Thor' type of development," Parker explained. "It's hard to avoid that because in a 'What If?' you're always dealing with a whole sequence of developments, often over the course of years. And you have to show what happened before, because you have to show what you're veering from. By treating the 'Disassembled' storyline as a murder mystery, we get to bring up the story from other characters' points of view and keep a lot of the developments in real time."

Some of the developments in Parker's story could actually fit into the "616" Marvel Universe quite easily. "Strangely, it doesn't contradict the original story at all, but I have a feeling Marvel isn't going to bring our key revelation into canon!" Parker said.

Although his artistic collaborator may be drawing a story that is non-cannon, Parker feels that Aaron Lopresti is doing an amazing job depicting the various Marvel heroes that get caught up in the story's plot. "Readers are going to really enjoy seeing how Lopresti breathes life into the Avengers and X-Men," Parker stated. "That guy is really firing on all cylinders."

Some "What If?" style stories leave room for sequels and return trips to the unique world of that story, but Parker feels that his tale has a nice, solid conclusion. "I think it works best if it ends here," he said. "But considering that I'm writing a miniseries based upon an issue of 'What If?'(#9 of the original series featuring the Secret Avengers that became 'Agents of Atlas'), I would never say never!"

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=8264

 

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COVER BY: DAVID YARDIN
WRITER: DAVID HINE
PENCILS: DAVID YARDIN
INKS: KRIS JUSTICE
COLORED BY: VAL STAPLES
LETTERED BY: DAVE LANPHEAR

THE STORY:
In the best-selling and history-making limited series X-Men: Deadly Genesis, Professor X sent a secret team of young mutants to rescue the X-Men from the living island, Krakoa, before he sent the now-famous All-New, All-Different team. This secret second team was destroyed and this eventually led to the deadly corruption of its powerful leader, Vulcan. But what if this second team HAD survived? Today, Vulcan is a celebrity hero who leads a new team of X-Men. But when Krakoa is found drifting in space, it holds a terrible secret that threatens the fate of this new generation of mutants.
48 PGS./Rated T+ ...$3.99

PRICE: 3.99
IN STORES: 2006-12-27

 

[mightiest_mortal]

hmmm... that Deadly genesis one does have some seriously sweety looking artwork in it

 

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In the tradition of “What If the Avengers fought evil in the 1950s?” (What If? Vol. 1 #9, “What If the Avengers lost the Evolutionary War? (What If? Vol. 2 #1), “What If Captain America had formed the Avengers?” (What If? #29), “What If the Avengers lost Operation: Galactic Storm?” (What If? #55-#56), and others, Marvel Comics’ What If? one-shots return with new installments that cover recent classics.

“There are plenty of cool moments left in the Marvel Universe to tap into and more created every month. It was about doing something tied into all the recent great arcs. And all of them beg a doosey of a What If,” editor Mark Paniccia said in an earlier interview when the new What If? projects were announced at Wizard World: Chicago.

Kicking off the latest batch is What If: Avengers: Disassembled by writer Jeff Parker and artist Aaron Lopresti.

The original solicitation copy reads:

WHAT IF? AVENGERS DISASSEMBLED
Written by Jeff Parker
Penciled by Aaron Lopresti
Cover by Gary Frank

"The Avengers have the same unfortunate tendency as ordinary law enforcement. Once we have a perpetrator to hang the crime on, we look no further."- Dr. Hank McCoy
It was the darkest day in Avengers history. Heroes died, the mansion was destroyed, and the team came to an end. But was the real problem solved? What if the greatest threat had gone undetected?
48 PGS

We spoke with Parker about this, and more.

Newsarama: What're some of your favorite Avengers stories?

Jeff Parker: The early ‘60s run still holds the most charm for me. Even though he was only there about ten minutes, I still like Hulk on the team. And of course, I have that in Marvel Adventures!

NRAMA: What did you think of the original “Disassembled” arc by Brian Bendis and Dave Finch?

JP: I liked the way the heroes related to each other, and it was certainly a massive shot in the arm to the title and group. It had grown complacent. I like the way Brian has the harsh developments keep coming before anyone can get a breath - that rings true of what catastrophe is really like. And the way they act in the face of it is just right; it really places the heroes on a human level.

My only problem is that the Avengers didn't solve the problem themselves, Dr. Strange did. But I can see the reasoning behind that, this is their lowest point and they're not supposed to win - it's a story about failure and you have to believe the group would break up.

NRAMA: And it also led to last summer’s event, House of M…

JP: Oh, of course. I enjoyed that and I really liked Wolverine in it. Which is something I don't often do. I was really liking that world, it's too bad it had to be put back to normal!

NRAMA: Did you read any of the What If? stories from back in the day? What're some of your favorites?

JP: Like a lot of people, the first one, with Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four sticks with me. Oddly, the other main one coming to mind at the moment is the one where Conan came to the present day.

NRAMA: So then - combining what we just talked about, next month, you're given a chance to re-write “Disassembled” and its subsequent events. Without spoiling it for the readers, what can we expect from your What If? Avengers: Disassembled one-shot?

JP: You can expect some maniacal theorizing on my part. While reading through the trade, I started to feel I was seeing a subtext that led to deeper motives and I ran with that. It's handled as a crime-scene investigation, wherein Beast and Ms. Marvel poke around and ask questions to get to the bottom of things, not being content with what their eyes saw that day. Aaron Lopresti breaks out some gorgeous art, too. There's no Marvel character he can't draw the heck out of. Heck, I said.

NRAMA: Yes you did. So where does your What If? tale pick up in what readers will remember from Disassembled?

JP: Our What If? picks the next day after it all went down, after Magneto flew off with Scarlet Witch and everyone was standing around feeling good and defeated.

NRAMA: So really, it’s not a “What if Avengers Disassembled didn’t happen?”, but more of a tweak of the aftermath?

JP: Right. Our Holmes and Watson of the story are The Beast and Ms. Marvel, who just can't let sleeping dogs lie, leave well enough alone, all that. Hank McCoy just doesn't accept that what he saw was all that there was to the Disassembling.

Since all What Ifs dealing with big storylines have to spend a lot of time recapping what happened, I thought we could put that to use by handling it as a crime scene investigation. Now you get the story as recounted by various heroes who were there that day.

NRAMA: So – with the “disassembling” still taking place…Hawkeye still buys it?

JP: Yes, he still ate the tail end of the Kree warship. He's so dead. And there's plenty of carnage, because it's just not What If? if heroes don't drop like flies! But now we find out that Wanda may have been manipulated.

NRAMA: Speaking of that makes a good What If? story…along with the heroes dropping like flies…what else needs to be there? A whale of a divergence form what did go down, or can an equally effective story be told if only minor changes are explored?

JP: I think they can diverge any number of ways as long as the developments are followed to a logical conclusion, not happening differently just because. Like someone misses a flight from LaGuardia and now Dr. Doom is the Hulk. Wait, that sounds pretty cool actually... (scrawls note).

Our conceit here isn't that something happened differently, it's that you didn't find out all the truth of those events and here's what happens if you do. So as I told fellow Portlander Brian Bendis the other day "I'm saying you lied!" I thought that would be a neat spin on the formula. I think some readers are expecting this to have a happier ending, but I think it will have the effect that they'll say "Whew. We got off lucky just losing Hawkeye and Ant-Man!"

Oh yeah, and Vision. Poor guy, no one ever counts him!


NRAMA: So – end of the day, and as a result of the changes in your story, is the Marvel Universe different from what we have now?

JP: Yes it is!

NRAMA: Moving on to your other Marvel projects, where are things headed for the Agents of Atlas?

JF: The group is going to have a lot of fun busting heads, and then some revelations are going to make their world pretty dark indeed. Still more revelations are going to really turn their world upside down!

You should read it because if you like it, this is a chance to expand the kinds of stories that can be told in the Marvel Universe. And Leonard Kirk, Kris Justice, and Michelle Madsen are working overtime to bring you a beautiful book!

And of course, we have Gorilla Man and no one else does.

NRAMA: The first issue of X-Men: First Class hit the stands recently. What’s in store for readers in the coming issues?

JF: We're backing up and seeing what the original X-Men still have to offer, and the series is eight individual stories that will be good jumping on points for readers who may think the mutant world is too convoluted to enter. Roger Cruz has morphed his art into a new style that I think readers will really like.

NRAMA: What else have you got in the works?

JF: More Marvel Adventures Avengers for one, and I think issue #9 is going to be embraced by readers who don't even follow the book.

I'm also writing a couple of books for Virgin Comics that I think will be announced soon.​

 

[CaptainCanada]

I'm really interested in the Deadly Genesis one, for the art alone (that two-page with all the characters is fantastic); also, Darwin is awesome.

I'm interested to see what exactly makes the Disassembled one a What If?

 

[usagicassidy]

It looks like these are all going to be great What Ifs?

Although I'm not sure if anyone can beat my favorite What If...the one where Gambit dies.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

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I'd love to see this inked and in full color. Beautiful artwork.

By the way, that looks like the old Chamber, next to Colossus (on the right)

 

[ghost113]

I have to to see that inked and colored

 

[CaptainCanada]

Inked and coloured, it stands a good chance of becoming my desktop.

If only Storm didn't have her horrid mid-80s look.

 

[ghost113]

mine also but it has to be inked and colored

 

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Marvel’s latest What If? continues with What If? Wolverine: Enemy of the State later this month..

Unlike the first two, What If? Avengers: Disassembled and What If? Spider-Man: The Other by Jeff Parker and Peter David, respectively, the third one-shot is written by Bomb Queen creator Jimmie Robinson, a writer who’s set to make his Marvel-ous debut with What If? Wolverine: Enemy of the State.

The solicitation reads:

WHAT IF? WOLVERINE: ENEMY OF THE STATE
Written by Jimmie Robinson, penciled by Carmine Di Giandomenico, cover by Doug Alexander.
What if the world's deadliest killing machine was never de-programmed? Over half a year has passed since the Hand took control of Wolverine, forcing him to assassinate one great hero after another. Now only a handful of super-powered beings are left to stop him. Who will risk their life to end the path of death and destruction?
32 pages, $2.99, in stores on Nov. 22.

Newsarama: How did you land this gig? After all, this is your first step into the world of Marvel...

Jimmie Robinson: The true story is Marvel knocked on my door. But makes no bones about it, when the window opened I was ready to jump. Especially when I was asked to write. My art never fit a Marvel/DC house style, so I've always been a self-publisher indie creator. So, I'd rather write for Marvel than draw. I have my own book(s) to sharpen my art skills.

I suspect my Bomb Queen tipped the Marvel hat my direction. This What If? story is a joy ride of blood spray and body parts. Perhaps there's a connection between the violence in my current Image title and the pools of blood I left on the floors at Marvel. However, I don't wish to become the "go to" guy for extreme violence. After all, there are others who are doing well with that right now. My fellow Image creator, Robert Kirkman being one of them.

NRAMA: For an indie sensation like you, have you been reading (and enjoying) the Big Two's books? Especially Marvel's?

JR: I like comics, period. You won't catch me in that indie-snob mentality. I grew up on Marvel/DC much like many did in my era. My coming-of-age with comics didn't feature stores chock full of alternative titles as you see nowadays. I like both the DCU and the Marvel Universe. But like I said, I like comics period. Just as I like movies, books, music, animation, et. It's all entertainment to me. Some of it more popular than others, but all of it enjoyable to me. I scratch my head when folks break up comics into competitive groups as if they orbit different industries. Like the oxymoron of manga and comics. The "big two" was all I had at my local corner store reading Teen Titans, ROM SpaceKnight, Batman, and G.I. Joe. I got in late with comics. My late teens, in fact. But I stepped in when the world of comics was changing. So I was at this fork of discovery with "old school", for a short time, then later alternative, then black & white boom, then the birth of Image, the melt down of the distribution system, and so on... up to now. A lot has changed within my career so far. But I've always enjoyed comics through it all - on all levels- from self-publishing to company owned.

NRAMA: What are your thoughts on Mark Millar's Wolverine run?

JR: I like what he did. Mark had a solid year to develop not only Wolverine, but also the battle within Wolvie's mind, then the revenge-filled Logan in the home stretch. And of course juggling all the characters between and within the scenes. It was a monumental effort and my hat is tipped off to him.

NRAMA: So, the world's deadliest killing machine was never de-programmed and he goes on a rampage and starts killing off superheroes. This is your chance to do a "Wolverine vs the Marvel Universe", right?

JR: In a long way 'round, yes... however... this really is a Kitty Pride story; from her view. And ultimately it becomes a battle of opposites. But reaching the main event is a path of blood and body parts. So yes, I painted Wolverine as a villain against the Marvel Universe. The heroes know he's brainwashed. Nothing can be done. It's like preparing for a hurricane, it's out there, you know it's coming. What do you do about it?

NRAMA: While it's not an in-continuity book, how are you approaching the character of Wolverine in November's What If? Wolverine: Enemy of the State? What makes him tick?

JR: Keep in mind, in this What If?, Wolverine has been brainwashed for six months and he's pretty far gone. His loyalty is now with Hydra and The Hand. This is not the Wolverine you know. However, I didn't want to waste a whole issue introducing a new type of Wolverine. In this format we learn about him through the view of others and what they plan to do about Wolverine. As for motivation, I continued Millar's plot with Hydra and The Hand's plan for world destruction. Wolverine is still "doing his job", collecting heroes and villains to be brainwashed just like him. The What If? spins from Millar's capture of Wolverine at the X-Men mansion. That never happened, Wolverine continues on. The impact is widely felt.

NRAMA: So, what's pissing him off?

JR: In this story, Wolverine is picking up a few loose ends. Captain America and Wolverine have unfinished business and it's time to settle up. In this What If?, instead of Capt. America containing Wolverine, they took it to the mud in a bloody battle. You'll see the results of that in the book. But the fight was never resolved and Wolverine needs to finish his job. However, Cap has a few surprised up his sleeve.

NRAMA: What are some of your favorite Wolverine runs? Stories?

Mariko love story arc. Because I'm a sucker for "love" stories. As much as I like working with powerful characters I think the power of love is the most challenging aspect between them all. Historically, love has brought down powerful people, nations and even gods. Everyone wants to be loved, no matter who you are, hero or villain. It often bugs me when characters are treated as "powers" and "abilities" and not as people with emotions. I admit, I wasn't too thrilled that Mariko had to die - and by Wolverine's hand at that. I'd like to see him with a steady girl, it builds character, defines his decisions and motivations. And makes him someone we can relate to. Whenever he's written as the "loner", or Ronin I think we're losing the bigger picture.

NRAMA: What else have you got in the works? And what's coming up in Bomb Queen?

JR: Bomb Queen art is wrapped up and cleared into 2007. The new mini-series kicked off last month, and it explores Bomb Queen's origin and how she came to rule New Port City. After that expect big, huge news from our lovely villain. In fact, I have stories mapped out into 2008. Sales on that title continue to rise with each issue. Bomb Queen isn't for everyone, but if it has found an audience then I'm working for them. Personally, what I really want to do in 2007 is launch more than one title. Watching my fellow Image creators like Remender, Kirkman and Moore juggle multiple books has made me insanely jealous. Believe it, or not I also have a romantic-comedy and an all-ages book I'd like to launch, too. I'm not all blood and gore... I hope I'm seen as a writer / creator of comics and not just one aspect of it.

 

[Havok83]

Im really looking forward to the DG one and the 1.5 team especially more of Sway. Her powers were interesting

 

[Harlekin]

The premise of the Wolverine What If? is really rather riducilious. Any sufficiently above street level grouping of heroes would be capable of taking Wolverine out.

 

[ghost113]

thats why I am only reading the deadly genesis one?

 

[perdev145]

so where are the original team members?? we don't see jean, angel, iceman, or havok in the team line-up. were they lost on krakoa? all except scott? if thats the case, maybe they're the ones that are pissed now.

 

[Exploding Boy]

Iceman is a girl in the DG one

 

[Specter313]

Iceman is a girl in the DG one

...The heck is you talkin about boy?