Flight 93 - What really happened?

[FlameHead]

Here's what I think about the whole government envolvement. If Bush did plan this out, for whatever reason, wouldn't it be in osama bin laden's best interest to say he had nothing to do with it and that was an american conspiracy? It seem that if he did do that it would cause more harm to America then just taking credit for it and making himself out to be a scapegoat.

Well, there are extreamly deep ties between Osama and Bush. Their families have a very long history. This attack was pulled off together, no doubt in my mind.

Even if it wasn't, there are reports shortly after the attacks of Bin Laden saying he had nothing to do with it (and he may not have, his family yes). The video that was later released with him confessing to it is a fake. Bin Laden is seen writting with with his right hand when he is left handed. Also, in that video, he's wearing a gold ring which goes against islamic law.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Back to the same old brain washing crap...yep you being 24 really makes you smart, so smart in fact you endoctrinate yourself to every David Icke theory that hits the market. David doesn't care about people like me, he knows he'll never hook myself or anyone else with experience. He preys on people like you, people who are so full of sh--. People who claim to want the "truth". You never wanted to truth, because if you wanted the truth first you'd realize there is no such thing...second you'd actually go out and research your position and from the research develop a founded position. You've already founded your position and that is the "establishment" is lying to you. Nothing I say can change your mind because all the photos I post are "faked" or news I post is from "reptilians" or some such nonsense. Live in your world of non facts and unfounded opinions. If it makes you happy, I guess its all right then. I'll just enjoy when Steven Colbert comes on TV and makes fun of people just.like.you.

Dude, say whatever you want, insult me until your mouth runs dry, it doesn't change the fact that I know that certain paranormal phenomena and certain government conspiracies are true, for I have personally seen and experienced their actions in my life, in my line of work. So I know that I'm most probably right and that I'm on the right track here, no matter what you and the rest of the world may believe.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

So were the guys who hijacked the planes Bin Lanen's guys?

No, black ops. Bin Laden's guys were eliminated by the NSA weeks before.

 

[FlameHead]

The American government lies to it's people. It conspires against it's own people. It has many times in the past, and shall continue to do so in the future. All governments do.

The notion that 9/11 was perpetrated by the American government and was essentially the modern equivalent of the burning of the Reichstag, in order to justify the perpetual "War on Terror" and eventually establish a de facto fascist state in America and throughout the Middle-East, is not that difficult to accept, unless you have absolute blind faith in the American government and in their "official" version of the story. Ever heard of Operation Northwoods? I suggest you look it up.

I'm very familiar with Northwoods. I completly agree with your theory. There's no doubt in my mind that this is what happened. I'd just prefere to stick to the elements that lead to that conclusion first before insisting to people that it was the american government. If these people just look into some of what we're saying, they'll come to that conclusion themselves.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Dude, say whatever you want, insult me until your mouth runs dry, it doesn't change the fact that I know that certain paranormal phenomena and certain government conspiracies are true, for I have personally seen and experienced their actions in my life, in my line of work. So I know that I'm most probably right and that I'm on the right track here, no matter what you and the rest of the world may believe.

THEN PROVE IT! or run for public office and try to change it, because sitting here behind a computer and posting conspiracy websites shows you don't really care. Why not rally a group behind you, publish an essay, publish a book...you don't care. Your so worried about looking like a fool you won't.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

indoctrinate

Sorry, my french sometimes steps on my english.

 

[Strange]

No, black ops. Bin Laden's guys were eliminated by the NSA weeks before.

so did these black ops guys survive the crash?

 

[TheSumOfGod]

THEN PROVE IT! or run for public office and try to change it, because sitting here behind a computer and posting conspiracy websites shows you don't really care. Why not rally a group behind you, publish an essay, publish a book...you don't care. Your so worried about looking like a fool you won't.

My quest for the truth is a personal one. I post here on the Hype because I sometimes have some spare time to kill.

 

[FlameHead]

Back to the same old brain washing crap...yep you being 24 really makes you smart, so smart in fact you endoctrinate yourself to every David Icke theory that hits the market. David doesn't care about people like me, he knows he'll never hook myself or anyone else with experience. He preys on people like you, people who are so full of sh--. People who claim to want the "truth". You never wanted to truth, because if you wanted the truth first you'd realize there is no such thing...second you'd actually go out and research your position and from the research develop a founded position. You've already founded your position and that is the "establishment" is lying to you. Nothing I say can change your mind because all the photos I post are "faked" or news I post is from "reptilians" or some such nonsense. Live in your world of non facts and unfounded opinions. If it makes you happy, I guess its all right then. I'll just enjoy when Steven Colbert comes on TV and makes fun of people just.like.you.

Actually, Colbert is making fun of you. He has a very great character and I admire him for his ballsy sense of humor.

As for research, I suggest you just break open your ball a little and do some more research. Reach some physics books. They'll tell you that what happened that day could not have happened the way it did.

The brain washing crap happens every single day. Media. We are obsessed with media. The few places we get our info is automatically assumed as true by masses of people. Just look at commercials for petes sake. We buy things, massive amounts of things, because of stupid commercials on TV. We are brainwashed and have been for a very long time.

Some more than others of course.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

so did these black ops guys survive the crash?

As I have previously stated, I have concluded that none of the four planes that were hijacked on that day ever crashed. A missile is what hit the Pentagon, remote-controlled military 777s (or hi-tech holographic projections combined with a series of pre-set explosives) are what hit the Twin Towers, and the debris field in Pennsylvania was planted. The REAL airplanes and their passengers safely landed somewhere in secret.

 

[Strange]

As I have previously stated, I have concluded that none of the four planes that were hijacked on that day ever crashed. A missile is what hit the Pentagon, remote-controlled military 777s (or hi-tech holographic projections combined with a series of pre-set explosives) are what hit the Twin Towers, and the debris field in Pennsylvania was planted. The REAL airplanes and their passengers safely landed somewhere in secret.

Well were are the people from the planes, they have had family members on tv talking about their lost loved ones. Some of the passengers from flight 93 made telephone calls and they have the recordings, now I'm sure it could all be faked but there are a lot of people unaccounted for. Did the governement just kill them? Again, I'm just asking, I don't buy into your theory but it is interesting.

 

[FlameHead]

THEN PROVE IT! or run for public office and try to change it, because sitting here behind a computer and posting conspiracy websites shows you don't really care. Why not rally a group behind you, publish an essay, publish a book...you don't care. Your so worried about looking like a fool you won't.

Actually, talking here is doing a world of wonder. People like Sum and I are spreading a message to people we share common interests with. By doing that, we are opening up people to this theory. Hopefully, by talking about it, you'll do the research yourself because the more that know, the more that will demand answers.

There is a very large movement of people in the world demanding these very same answers. Do a google search. Are ALL these people wrong? Are you going to tell all these people that they're full of **** and don't deserve a proper investigation into that day? Look it up man. This is building steam and it's building steam because the evidence is irrefutable.

There are already hundreds of books, thousands of essays. I have bookmarked at least 35 websites dedicated to the truth behind 911. What we're doing is trying to get you to read those things and to me, that's a very important job.

 

[Strange]

Actually, talking here is doing a world of wonder. People like Sum and I are spreading a message to people we share common interests with. By doing that, we are opening up people to this theory. Hopefully, by talking about it, you'll do the research yourself because the more that know, the more that will demand answers.

There is a very large movement of people in the world demanding these very same answers. Do a google search. Are ALL these people wrong? Are you going to tell all these people that they're full of **** and don't deserve a proper investigation into that day? Look it up man. This is building steam and it's building steam because the evidence is irrefutable.

There are already hundreds of books, thousands of essays. I have bookmarked at least 35 websites dedicated to the truth behind 911. What we're doing is trying to get you to read those things and to me, that's a very important job.

If Charlie Sheen believes it then it must be true

j/k

 

[FlameHead]

Well were are the people from the planes, they have had family members on tv talking about their lost loved ones. Some of the passengers from flight 93 made telephone calls and they have the recordings, now I'm sure it could all be faked but there are a lot of people unaccounted for. Did the governement just kill them? Again, I'm just asking, I don't buy into your theory but it is interesting.

There are several things that could be so. Yes, they could have been killed, that's one option.

The second is that every single passanger who boarded that plane was a secret agent of some sort (Isn't it funny that these 4 planes had very small passanger loads when every single other flight that day had huge ones?) and are now living under a witness protection program?

Or, maybe these familes are in on it. They are making money from this film that was just released... and they probably made millions more before that.

The phone call recordings that were released are extreamly suspicious. One has a guy calling his mother and introducing himself with his full name. When was the last time you called your own mother and said "Hi mom, it's Joe Doe calling". Another one has the lady talking about the events happening and she is calm as a button. Funny no?

 

[FlameHead]

If Charlie Sheen believes it then it must be true

j/k

Actually, I've very proud that he spoke up. He's the only celebrity to do so. He could have committed career suicide by talking about these things but, like us, he felt it was important to get these questions answered.

Bravo Charlie. Bravo.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

These photos show the final cleanup of the wall section. NO BOEING 757 EVER WENT THROUGH HERE:

This roof view shows the first floor still standing:

Like I said, NO Boeing 757 penetrated three rings of the Pentagon:

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Well were are the people from the planes, they have had family members on tv talking about their lost loved ones. Some of the passengers from flight 93 made telephone calls and they have the recordings, now I'm sure it could all be faked but there are a lot of people unaccounted for. Did the governement just kill them? Again, I'm just asking, I don't buy into your theory but it is interesting.

Where the passengers are today I simply don't know, only the true conspirators know.

 

[Strange]

The phone call recordings that were released are extreamly suspicious. One has a guy calling his mother and introducing himself with his full name. When was the last time you called your own mother and said "Hi mom, it's Joe Doe calling". Another one has the lady talking about the events happening and she is calm as a button. Funny no?

Well my mom does have alzheimer's, so it can be necessary sometimes.

 

[user123456789]

WTF is up with those pictures?

SB!!!?!?!? EXPLAIN!!?!?

 

[TheSumOfGod]

The first picture is the best. It clearly shows that a Boeing 757 NEVER passed through there.

 

[FlameHead]

Even if a plane did go through there (which could not have been a 757) why in the hell with the government not release the videos taken from nearby businesses? These caught the entire event and were taken by FBI officials shortly after the strike.

 

[FlameHead]

WTF is up with those pictures?

SB!!!?!?!? EXPLAIN!!?!?

Boyscout, you live in New York. I'm curious, is a noticiable movement of people fighting for this theory. Do you see people on the streets with signs? Any posters? I'm wondering because New Yorkers are probably the most pissed off outta anyone.

 

[Strange]

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html

 

[FlameHead]

Man, just look at the minimal amount of damage. A 757 would do much more than that. I mean, they did bring down much larger buildings than that on the same day right?

Sheesh.

 

[Strange]

Here's another good page.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html