Game of Thrones - Book Readers' Thread - Part 18

[Marvolo]

Game of Thrones Season 5 Trailer 1 Official HD
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[Marvolo]

Two more new pics.

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[DarthSkywalker]

Pls.

Jon Snow > All others except Arya.

You emoticon implies this isn't true, when it really is.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Boo Arya Yay Jon

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Boo Arya Yay Jon

I'll take that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Sansa in a bathtub...

Anyways, you can see in that one trailer just how much they have changed this season from the books. It is kind of shocking, though I am all for it. Not much good in the mountains of text that are AFFC and ADWD.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That little girl will never sit on the Iron Throne. It belongs to Ice, it belongs to Fire, it belongs to a Snow.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Personally I think that whole wretched chair is gonna be destroyed and it'll be seven kingdoms again.

 

[godisawesome]

The Boltons look like they're receiving some official guest at Winterfell in that one image. maybe they're greeting the Frey in-laws or we're actually going to see some part of the marriage here.

The Wall storyline is interesting from the standpoint of adaptation expansion vs filler. There's not a lot of meat at the Wall after Jon wins the election, and we've got a glimpse of Lord O' Bones, someone using a nasty looking axe who may be Leathers, and what looks like the rumored Hardhome scene. There's a lot of potential for the show to paint a far more implicating picture of Jon being a Wildling traitor in his rivals' eyes if they show him taking a more hands on approach to the Watch-Wilding-Stannis situation. I can easily see them having him personally recruit or conquer some tribes into his new Watch with Stannis's support, with that providing the catalyst for the suspicion that eventually erupts against him.

 

[Reek]

so at 140 in the trailer, who is clenching the chair in pain?

 

[Reek]

or... what looks like it...

also, i like the 'new' bolton sigil

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

Personally I think that whole wretched chair is gonna be destroyed and it'll be seven kingdoms again.

I don't know about 7, but i think that chair is nearing it's end. the whole geography of westeros might be different by the end of it. i think the wall's coming down, the riverlands could still be loyal to the north, and the vale might come into the fold as well.

 

[Iceman]

The Wall was always going to come down.

 

[Reek]

could be a Hasselhoff

 

[Lord]

Great trailer. Looks more exciting then the meandering books. Glad that they seem to be dropping Aegon and the Greyjoys.

I can see why Aegon would be cut, but i'm a bit disappointed to see them not use the Greyjoys, would give them more importancy to the storyline than they've been having so far.

 

[Reek]

 

[Victarion]

A summary for A Feast For Crows from 2002, courtesy of Amazon.

Continuing the most ambitious and imaginatve epic fantasy since The Lord of the Rings The action in Book Four of A Song of Ice and Fire begins the day after the end of A STORM OF SWORDS. While the remaining northern lords war endlessly with each other and the ironmen of the isles attack the Dreadfort, Sansa becomes a skilled player in the game of thrones with Littlefinger as her mentor, Arya a skilled assassin, and Bran a magician and shapeshifter of great power. All seek to gain revenge for the death of their parents and Robb Stark, whose head was cut off and replaced with the head of his direwolf. Valar morghulis. All men must die, and wolves, too. Danerys trains her growing dragons and learns from Barristan the secrets of her father, her brother Rhaegar, and other matters that will culminate at Starfall. And Jon Snow is the nine-hundredth-and-ninety-eighth lord commander of the Night's Watch. The Wall is his. The night is dark, and he has King Stannis to face. The cold wind is rising, and still there are inhuman powers gathering in the north. "
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[Lord]

 

[Marvolo]

A summary for A Feast For Crows from 2002, courtesy of Amazon.

Continuing the most ambitious and imaginatve epic fantasy since The Lord of the Rings The action in Book Four of A Song of Ice and Fire begins the day after the end of A STORM OF SWORDS. While the remaining northern lords war endlessly with each other and the ironmen of the isles attack the Dreadfort, Sansa becomes a skilled player in the game of thrones with Littlefinger as her mentor, Arya a skilled assassin, and Bran a magician and shapeshifter of great power. All seek to gain revenge for the death of their parents and Robb Stark, whose head was cut off and replaced with the head of his direwolf. Valar morghulis. All men must die, and wolves, too. Danerys trains her growing dragons and learns from Barristan the secrets of her father, her brother Rhaegar, and other matters that will culminate at Starfall. And Jon Snow is the nine-hundredth-and-ninety-eighth lord commander of the Night's Watch. The Wall is his. The night is dark, and he has King Stannis to face. The cold wind is rising, and still there are inhuman powers gathering in the north. "
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People were in for a rude awakening.

 

[Reek]

*slow admiring clap*

 

[Victarion]

It certainly helps me better appreciate the majority's response to A Feast for Crows. I've wondered about the time skip GRRM had originally planned. I know he said the prologue grew to about 100 pages, at which point he decided it wasn't feasible...but we get plenty of backstory on Robert's Rebellion and the Greyjoy Rebellion throughout the first three books. I wonder why this method wouldn't have worked for the time skip.

 

[Reek]

Fire clenses better than anything else.

I think the people of Meereen have hunters and huntresses to go out and Charl meat for Dany's dragons.

Well, Barristan's not there and the rumors were that he'd get hurt in place of Strong Belwas, and that Daario would be Hand, so maybe it's to do with that.

I wouldn't look at the show as a reflection of the books. They've said before they're doing their own thing with it from here on out.

Effectively the next Dance is cut, since it's just Dany.

Boo Arya Yay Jon

Personally I think that whole wretched chair is gonna be destroyed and it'll be seven kingdoms again.

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Had to be done.

It certainly helps me better appreciate the majority's response to A Feast for Crows. I've wondered about the time skip GRRM had originally planned. I know he said the prologue grew to about 100 pages, at which point he decided it wasn't feasible...but we get plenty of backstory on Robert's Rebellion and the Greyjoy Rebellion throughout the first three books. I wonder why this method wouldn't have worked for the time skip.

George is an *******?

 

[Marvolo]

It certainly helps me better appreciate the majority's response to A Feast for Crows. I've wondered about the time skip GRRM had originally planned. I know he said the prologue grew to about 100 pages, at which point he decided it wasn't feasible...but we get plenty of backstory on Robert's Rebellion and the Greyjoy Rebellion throughout the first three books. I wonder why this method wouldn't have worked for the time skip.

I'm a pretty big fan of A Feast for Crows, but had I been a fan of the series when AFFC came out I doubt I would like the book. Fans waited five years for A Feast For Crows only to discover it only dealt with half the characters and then on top of that had to wait another 6 years to find out what happened to the other half and then GRRM bumped the finale of ADWD to WOW which means they are still waiting for the rest of the book they thought they were getting over 10 years ago. It's a wonder the man has any fans at all.

 

[Drz]

It certainly helps me better appreciate the majority's response to A Feast for Crows. I've wondered about the time skip GRRM had originally planned. I know he said the prologue grew to about 100 pages, at which point he decided it wasn't feasible...but we get plenty of backstory on Robert's Rebellion and the Greyjoy Rebellion throughout the first three books. I wonder why this method wouldn't have worked for the time skip.

Because he didn't like the idea of a few years where nothing was happening outside of Jon becoming a good leader, Daenerys learning how to rule and Arya becoming older.

 

[godisawesome]

It certainly helps me better appreciate the majority's response to A Feast for Crows. I've wondered about the time skip GRRM had originally planned. I know he said the prologue grew to about 100 pages, at which point he decided it wasn't feasible...but we get plenty of backstory on Robert's Rebellion and the Greyjoy Rebellion throughout the first three books. I wonder why this method wouldn't have worked for the time skip.

Someone somewhere said that the real problem with a time skip in hindsight would be that the new status quo Martin was setting up, while an excellent starting point, was both a) a bit too complicated, and b) had far too many interesting things happening to far too many characters the audience was already invested in.

It's one thing to be introduced to a character who's famed in legend when we meet him, then get to know him. It's another thing entirely to get to know a character, enjoy them, then come back and find that you missed out on some totally awesome **** between books.

In other words, Martin wanted to "reset the game board" but the new set up was far too epic to be skipped over. The issue is that to set it up, Martin had to let characters stew around each other and go off on quests to burn time while BIG things were happening, but not at the pace of the first three books. And like any author of a successful series, at a certain point while writing, he was inspired to expand other parts of the world and cast, and no editor would tell him "No."

Anyways, do you guys think the Wildling fort in the trailer is part of Hardhome? Or is that a different setting?