Game of Thrones - Book Readers' Thread - - - - - - - Part 24

[Marvolo]

Sexy

 

[Victarion]

Lol I wonder if Reek chose gifs from that movie on purpose.

 

[stillanerd]

Not all of what is known came from the fake synopsis.

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We know cersei ignites the Wildfire under KL, and the safe bet is she blows up the Sept. Since Marg's and Cersei's trial is supposed to be taking placeplace its a safe bet that Kevin, Mace, and Marg will be at the Sept when it happens. The High Sparrow will be their too.

Don't forget that

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Tommen will likely be at the trial, too, since he represents "The Crown" and the "The Crown and the Faith are the twin pillars of the Seven Kingdoms" and all that. So if Ceresi attempts to blow up the Sept with Wildfire, he'd get caught in that mess, too.

Not snow... Ash...


We also know that [BLACKOUT]Olenna, Varys and the Sand Snakes meet... Varys convincing them to join Dany ...thats his mission. [/BLACKOUT]

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Oh so thats what he is up to. I wasnt sure what he would be doing since he wasnt going to kill Kevan.

Ugh this means Dorne will be in the finale. I hope Varys and Olenna can make those scenes interesting.

If that is indeed

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what Varys is up too, I hope it also results in revealing to Ellaria that Prince Doran, similar to the books, has been plotting for years to restore House Tarrgaryaen to the Iron Throne, first with Viserys and now with Dany, that Varys and Doran have been working together this whole time, and that's the real reason he seemed slow to avenge Oberyn's death, then caps it all off by telling her, "And because of you and your silly Sand Snakes, your actions nearly ruined years of careful planning, all because you were too impatient and short-sighted to trust that your brother-in-law knew exactly what he was doing!"

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

Don't forget that

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Tommen will likely be at the trial, too, since he represents "The Crown" and the "The Crown and the Faith are the twin pillars of the Seven Kingdoms" and all that. So if Ceresi attempts to blow up the Sept with Wildfire, he'd get caught in that mess, too.

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I think she'll try to detonate that bomb beforehand, and unbeknownst to her, Tommen will be visiting the Sept at that time and be caught in it, or the caches are interlinked in an unknown way so that setting one off starts a chainreaction that sets them all off and he'll be caught above another cache, perhaps under part of the Red Keep. Tommen is going to die and I believe she will be ultimately responsible. It's too good of a tragedy to pass up.

 

[Marvolo]

Don't forget that

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Tommen will likely be at the trial, too, since he represents "The Crown" and the "The Crown and the Faith are the twin pillars of the Seven Kingdoms" and all that. So if Ceresi attempts to blow up the Sept with Wildfire, he'd get caught in that mess, too.

If that is indeed

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what Varys is up too, I hope it also results in revealing to Ellaria that Prince Doran, similar to the books, has been plotting for years to restore House Tarrgaryaen to the Iron Throne, first with Viserys and now with Dany, that Varys and Doran have been working together this whole time, and that's the real reason he seemed slow to avenge Oberyn's death, then caps it all off by telling her, "And because of you and your silly Sand Snakes, your actions nearly ruined years of careful planning, all because you were too impatient and short-sighted to trust that your brother-in-law knew exactly what he was doing!"

Regarding Tommen,

Open if you dont mind being spoiled

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He is heartbroken about Marg and the High Sparrow dying and he kills himself by jumping out a window.

Im guessing Cersei somehow manages to hold Tommen at the Red Keep so that he isnt at the Sept when it blows up.

 

[Fist of Khonshu]

Regarding Tommen,

Open if you dont mind being spoiled

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He is heartbroken about Marg and the High Sparrow dying and he kills himself by jumping out a window.

Im guessing Cersei somehow manages to hold Tommen at the Red Keep so that he isnt at the Sept when it blows up.

How do you know this?

 

[Reek]

Most of those spoilers that leaked with the Tommen stuff were debunked... could still happen though, no doubt.

 

[Reek]

the only confirmed ones i have don't mention tommen at all so I dont know

 

[Marvolo]

[Blackout]Well at the very least its safe to say he dies either at the sept or by taking a swan dive. If she really is planning to blow the sept it seems likely that she would not let him go to the sept so it seems likely he doesnt die in the fire. And suicide over marg's death makes sense. [/blackout]

 

[Reek]

yep agreed. i hope he finds out the truth about his parentage too

 

[Ezio Auditore]

If that is indeed

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what Varys is up too, I hope it also results in revealing to Ellaria that Prince Doran, similar to the books, has been plotting for years to restore House Tarrgaryaen to the Iron Throne, first with Viserys and now with Dany, that Varys and Doran have been working together this whole time, and that's the real reason he seemed slow to avenge Oberyn's death, then caps it all off by telling her, "And because of you and your silly Sand Snakes, your actions nearly ruined years of careful planning, all because you were too impatient and short-sighted to trust that your brother-in-law knew exactly what he was doing!"

Ohhh i would be sooo on board with this happening.
Doran is suposed to be a mastermind. I love his line in AFFC about Oberyn:

“I am not blind, nor deaf. I know that you all believe me weak, frightened, feeble. Your father knew me better. Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him. I was the grass. Pleasant, complaisant, sweet-smelling, swaying with every breeze. Who fears to walk upon the grass? But it is the grass that hides the viper from his enemies and shelters him until he strikes. Your father and I worked more closely than you know … but now he is gone. The question is, can I trust his daughters to serve me in his place?"

 

[Marvolo]

yep agreed. i hope he finds out the truth about his parentage too

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I wonder who would tell him? Do you think there might be a scene mirroring the Myrcella Jaime confession scene in which Cersei tells Tommen the truth but unlike Myrcella accepting Jaime and the truth Tommen rejects Jaime and Cersei and kills himself? Imagine him walking to the window and jumping when Cersei is in the room with him.

 

[Charlatan]

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If the Tyrells lose Marge and Loras then I'd imagine that they would go after Jaime and Cersei. Hell Jaime might kill Cersei.

 

[Reek]

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I wonder who would tell him? Do you think there might be a scene mirroring the Myrcella Jaime confession scene in which Cersei tells Tommen the truth but unlike Myrcella accepting Jaime and the truth Tommen rejects Jaime and Cersei and kills himself? Imagine him walking to the window and jumping when Cersei is in the room with him.

yea maybe... i don't know how else he would find out, i just hope he does. We know Jaime isn't in KL unless he borrows the Westerosi Jetpack everyone seems to rent out once a week

 

[Marvolo]

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If the Tyrells lose Marge and Loras then I'd imagine that they would go after Jaime and Cersei. Hell Jaime might kill Cersei.

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When he finds out about Tommen and what she does with the Wildfire I wouldnt be surprised if Jaime finally decides she has to go.

 

[Victarion]

I could see Jaime just riding up to King's Landing...just as it goes off.

 

[Marvolo]

I could see Jaime just riding up to King's Landing...just as it goes off.

That would be pretty ****ing funny. He is riding up to the city with dreams of bedding Cersei and then BOOM! KL goes off like a nuke.

 

[Victarion]

Afternoon delight.

 

[Charlatan]

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When he finds out about Tommen and what she does with the Wildfire I wouldnt be surprised if Jaime finally decides she has to go.

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It would be a murder /suicide if he did I do believe

 

[Marvolo]

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It would be a murder /suicide if he did I do believe

He's a dumb chump if he does that.

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After what Cersei has done he should have the sense to know she isnt worth his life. If he still thinks she is after what she does in the finale then the character is off the rails of sense and logic.

 

[Reek]

I don't think Jaime would kill himself. If anything he dies because of Cersei and she commits suicide.

 

[Reek]

He's a dumb chump if he does that.

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After what Cersei has done he should have the sense to know she isnt worth his life. If he still thinks she is after what she does in the finale then the character is off the rails of sense and logic.

Well... to be fair, Jaime is helping the people who hosted the Red Wedding... so it's not beyond him to support such actions.

 

[Charlatan]

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I think he would. All is lost , his entire family gone. He lives for her. it would be fitting for the twins to go out together like they came into the world. Kinda poetic even.

 

[Marvolo]

Both of you have good points. Yall are probably right.

 

[Reek]

I just want Voldemort to give Jaime his hand back... it's a shame we barely got to see the legendary fighting abilities.

Vs Ned - it wasn't much of anything

vs brienne - he was malnourished, covered in ****, and tied up.