Game of Thrones - Book Readers' Thread - - - - Part 21

Onion Knight retrieving Jon's body!!!! Woooo

Also I'm pretty sure I saw Jon in a whip pan during one of the battle shots. Likely battle for Winterfell part deux.

 

Best moment to me was Bran turning around to see [BLACKOUT]Night's King[/BLACKOUT].

 

Awesome trailer, can't wait for this.

 

Ned Stark fighting Targaryon guards beside the tower of Joy at 1:16!

 

Just kidding, lolz.

 

What is the Onion Knight about to do, and is that Lightbringer that he is holding? It looks like its in a golden scabbard.

 

Looks like Longclaw.

 

Incredible trailer. Damn I am so ready for Season 6.

 

Big question - who's that in black swinging the flaming flail? It looks like its from north of the Wall.

 

There's speculation over on the ASOIAF forums that the burning flayed man is [BLACKOUT]Stannis.[/BLACKOUT]

 

Great freaking trailer.

 

Lol someone says they see black dragons on red banners. I think its just the flayed man, but lol anyway.

 

Clearly Longclaw. I can't tell if he is trying to get Jon's body or cut off Jon's head to avoid Wight status.

 

You can see a couple of black brothers off to the side. There's some footage earlier in the trailer of Ser Alliser and some of the brothers kicking in a door. Seems like these two scenes go together.

 

From Daavos dialogue and actions it seems like he's protecting Jon from the black brothers.

 

I think that is why we are going to see a lot of his dead body, just like Joffrey and others. They want to emphasis it.

Research says people read headlines, not actual articles. Hence the headlines they produce.

How does it lower integrity? They want to keep a plot point hidden. Since when did lying about plot in a work of fiction become a problem? How else do you keep a surprise? On another note, it might be annoying, but Jon is dead. I think we all believe that. Now he won't stay that way, but they aren't lying about him being dead.

I actually have had that situation. My mother and brother have asked me about what happens in the story, as they haven't read the books and I have. Long phone conversations. Most of the time I tell them to just keep watching, but when it comes to "deaths" I tell them everyone is dead. I told them Sandor and Jon are dead. That Bran and Rickon were dead. I totally lied to them about it because death is different on GoT then other things. The way they kill people makes it a different dynamic.

As to why they do not go with staying silence. Because of what happened with Ned and the Red Wedding, they have had a certain response. Because of that, saying anything else with Jon would give up the ghost. Just like GRRM did when asked the reporter if they really thought Jon was dead. All the death has been building to this very moment. The moment when the hero does come back. The one where the fans finally get what they want. It is actually a rather power concept, especially on this show. It is exactly why they are doing this.

 

There's a Godly man.

 

Darth I'm not going to discuss this with you. I've given you my opinion, at some point you're going to have to accept it.

 

When did I say you weren't entitled to your opinion? Of course you are. Am I not entitled to my as well? We disagree. Is there a problem with that? Am I not allowed to ask why you think it lowers their integrity?

 

There's literally been a trailer that's just dropped with footage of storylines beyond the published material, including some featuring one of my favourite characters of the series, for the first time. Was the trailer not to your liking that you'd rather get into a pedantic argument about how my opinion on being lied to (or lying to others) differs from your own? I don't know about you but I'd much rather be discussing the show/books in light of what we've just seen.

 

I can do both, and am. I actually think the trailer speaks to my argument but that isn't really the point.

I do find this post to be rather disingenuous. You don't want to talk about it, fine. But don't make this a "problem" by me. I did nothing wrong, and am perfectly capable of talking about the trailer and another subject in the same thread. It isn't like there is a ton of activity here, so nothing is being thrown out of the way. If you choose not too, that is your decision. But I see not one thing wrong with replying to post that were made too me. I didn't insult you.

 

You weren't going to change my views and I wasn't going to change yours, so why continue? The conversation was going nowhere. It's still going nowhere. Right now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing and I really don't care enough about the matter to continue. Iif you want to keep going with it then that's your prerogative, but I think you need to accept that my opinion differs from your own and move on.

 

GUYS! We just saw a clip where Jon is riding a white horse into battle...

But he's dead... thats just his dead corpse riding a horse to show emphasis that he is dead... like his brother Robb... jsut with a head! that looks.... like JON SNOWS!

 

Why would Davos and co. be protecting a dead corpse if not to bring it back to life