Game of Thrones General (Non-Book Related) Discussion Thread - Part 1

only scene I didn't like was the Hound reunion with Arya thought it was too frosty he smiled last season when Brianne told him she has become a great warrior didn't like that called her a ***** on his way out I mean his character would do that but I wanted it to be a little more admirable

what a cliffhanger but Bran is all about his 3eyed raven He has no emotion so that's why I think he wont seek revenge on Jaime that he will just say again "we have no time for this"

I thought they blew there load too early on Jon riding a dragon wish I was under war time that he did not for a booty call
 
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hound smiled at Arya too I thought
 
I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree about the changes made from book to screen. In the end I think it comes down to personal preference, and I much prefer the more deliberate pace of the novels to the broad strokes of the show. Martin's narrative, aside from being better written, makes more sense thematically and fits the world he has created. D&D may have kept the larger story beats, but their altering of so many little character details has added up over the years to the point where the tiny ripples in season 1 are now 30 foot tsunamis sweeping away any coherence that was left. The changes fundamentally alter the story that is being told, and casts characters in a far different light than in the novels. It's clear that D&D have been playing favorites since day one (they love the Lannisters, except Jaime, and dislike the Starks due their honor, which they think is moronic).

In the books the characters drive the plot, not the other way around. It's largely a problem of the later seasons, but still applies to characters like Cat who are a victim of circumstance instead of being in charge of their destinies. It's hard to care about characters when their actions are warped to fit preconceived plot points instead of a more natural cause and effect.

Maybe I placed too great an emphasis on the quality of GoT compared to other HBO shows (completely forgot about Entourage and True Blood), but they don't get the same level of attention or acclaim. It hurts the industry when a show like this is passed off as high art. Again, I have no problem with praise directed at the art direction, music, acting, stunt work or CGI, but the reason why this show has been so successful is because of the framework provided by the novels. If this had been an original series by D&D I doubt it would've gotten a second season. The fact that the most recent seasons (the ones that jumped the shark, narratively speaking) are the ones receiving the most awards for its storytelling is appalling. Television is supposed to be the writer's medium, the place where story is king. I don't want shows with brains to be phased out in favor of four quadrant crowdpleasers.

Agree to disagree. Your love for the books I think is making you unreasonable in how you judge the series. You don't evaluate based on what's there but what is different. Television is a different medium and many of the changes, at least in the early seasons, you dislike are the natural outcome of a different medium adapting a story (in my opinion quite well). Also, the idea that Benioff and Weiss hate the Starks is nonsense. If anything they adore Arya and Sansa (maybe not Bran, so much...).

I actually agree the last two seasons, more so Season 7, have been so plot driven that Benioff and Weiss have taken narrative shortcuts to get to their desired outcome, leading to characters making bizarre choices, the most glaring of which being Arya considering killing Sansa, Dany being able to get to Beyond the Wall in a day, and so on. But generally these shortcomings are just that: shortcomings, flaws in a show that is still quite great, even if it is no longer the phenomenal piece of storytelling it was in the first four seasons.

And here's the kicker: D&D might take shortcuts George never will, but D&D are about to finally finish the story, complete with more or less George's intended ending. I'm happy to see it, because I don't think George will ever finish his novels.
 
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The dragon riding was the biggest waste of a scene. It went on for too long and I saw someone describe it as a live action Disney scene which Id agree on.
 
Honestly this episode could have been pure crap and I'd have been happy to see it. It's just been so long and my expectations were low. I did think it was good though, maybe not as strong as last season's premiere, but I loved the momentum and the tying up of old storylines.

Loved the dragon flight scene, felt straight ouf of the books, although that's not something that has happened, just felt like something that would. I love Jon getting to his Tarq roots.

Full recap and thoughts here.
 
we all know the battle happens episode 3 so I would like to see the army of the dead next week and actually see them communicate with each other on strategy
 
Tormund deserves a great epic moment he always entertains give him Brienne lol
 
we all know the battle happens episode 3 so I would like to see the army of the dead next week and actually see them communicate with each other on strategy

That's the lingering question for me. We know for a fact that the NK is a conscious individual. A random killing machine wouldn't leave messages for his enemy. He's doing this for a purpose, and he's being strategic. I hope they'll give us an opportunity to hear... or at least better understand.. the NK through his own perspective.
 
Great first episode. Lots of wonderful reunions and setting up for things to come. I'm almost more interested in the character work than the big battle against the White Walkers since despite that this is what it's been leading up to, I don't think the show feels like it's about that (the same goes for the books). All the character work will make the battles all the better though. Hopefully the expected reveal about the Night King and what he wants will be intriguing as well.

I didn't see any of the things that I had pretty big issues with last season, and I think this might be a more focused season so the weird narrative might not be present here.

It was also interesting how I hadn't been actively looking forward to this as much as Endgame, but as soon as I sat down to watch all the feelings of how I've longed to see these characters again came back immediately.
 
I seen the featurette it said Lucas reached out that he wanted to visit the set being Lucas he was granted the visit must be nice being George Lucas lol
 
That's the lingering question for me. We know for a fact that the NK is a conscious individual. A random killing machine wouldn't leave messages for his enemy. He's doing this for a purpose, and he's being strategic. I hope they'll give us an opportunity to hear... or at least better understand.. the NK through his own perspective.

I think next week episode is the perfect opportunity to do so it doesn't have to be in English they could just mumble and I'll take sub titles lol
 
Fresh from watching the first episode. How much i love GOT.
It's one hell of a unique show. So freaking good.

I'll be rating the episodes for the last season.
S8 E1 - 8 out of 10.

It was a strong first episode. It was awesome coming back to this world, seeing the character interactions, those visceral moments, the humor, the drama, the scary stuff... Near perfect blend of at of this stuff. Nothing on the level of the best we have seen from the series, but that was to be expected...

HE HAS BLUE EYES!!! I'VE ALWAYS HAD BLUE EYES!

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Did anyone else think the dialogue was cringy af at some points? And the CGI when Jon mounted the Dragon was reaaally bad I mean c'mon.

Then again they probably will go all in on the Battle scenes so I can forgive some bad cgi this early on.

Bran keeps on being a creepy dude.
 

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