Ghostbusters 3 - Part 1

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If they can't bring back the entire ORIGINAL cast, then I would rather them just have a brand new cast and change the location to Chicago or LA or something and just state that Ghostbusting a nation-wide franchise and Pete, Ray, Egon, etc are in NYC doing their thing and this is just another crew in another location and their stories.....

Eh,I think this idea would be much better for a live action spin-off TV show!and IF it was actually done for a movie then I think it would be better for a sequel after the new one with the ending being the original team retiring while making Ghost-Busting into a franchise and so a sequel can start with a fresh take and all with the original team making cameos some how to please the fans&connect it to the original movies one last time!
 
I want this movie to make it, I really do. I hate to admit it, but at this point I'd write Bill off if I had to. Its basically now or never. And don't immediately go for the spin-off, use the old characters while we still have them. Look at the new video game, Sanctum of Slime. Story is ok, the game is terrible, and none of teh characters really have their own personality.
 
In my opinion, you can't use all of the old cast members MINUS Bill Murray, because Bill Murray is what made those two movies what they are. It's too noticeable if you have Ackroyd and Ramis without Murray. It's like making Back to the Future 4 with Christopher Lloyd but without Michael J. Fox... it's never going to happen, and it would never work.

The only way a new Ghostbusters film will work is if NONE of the original people come back, and you treated it as a reboot. I think that's the way to go.

Bill Murray is clearly being a dick, and he's turning his back on the fans, AND he's turning his back on what launched him into super-stardom. A person who refuses to revisit their roots or their hometown where they're loved by all the townspeople is not someone I particularly favor.

It's like if Kelly Clarkson's hometown threw her a giant parade in her honor, and everyone in the town loved her... but then she refused to show up to her own parade because she's now the American Idol and thinks too highly of herself, or she's too good for it. That's called being a sell-out.

And the ironic thing is that Bill Murray makes it sound like he'd be selling out if he chose to star in a movie with a lackluster script (because he's some serious, artistic actor now :whatever:) when in reality, he's being a sell-out by NOT doing it.
 
I don't think it makes him a sell out to not do the movie because of the script at all. Granted yes he's the one holding back the production, but I bet you if he loved the script, they'd be filming right now. Maybe the writers just aren't doing any good.
I mean the writers of some episodes of The Office and Year One are most likely the ones mucking up the story.
 
Very good point. And it's not like Murray is always reluctant. He's been involved in some movies and has done some good cameos over the years.
 
1. We've heard these claims multiple times now...and it usually means someone was misinformed and/or BSing. Best not take it to heart.

2. Check the date of that YouTube video. It was uploaded two months ago.
 
News has been dead for longer then April. Your getting excited over nothing
 
might as well adapt the story from "Ghostbusters: The Video Game". it had a great story written by Dan Akroyd and Harold Raimis, plus the return of Stay Puft and the cameos were awesome.
 
Honestly, if Murray had no issues with doing the game, I would assume he's not THAT averse to the franchise.
 
I honestly dont see a third fil happening, i'd love them to make it but i dont expect them to, it's more likely we'll get a reboot somewhere in the future with the original ghostbusters (who'll do it) appearing as cameo's.

While it'll be sad to see Dan, Harold & Ernie in small bit roles i really think thats the way Sony will go.
 
Honestly, if Murray had no issues with doing the game, I would assume he's not THAT averse to the franchise.

I think he has kind of mixed feelings about the series as a whole. In this video...

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...you can see he's not crazy about doing another movie. He's really dragging his heels about it. And that's putting it lightly. But then turns around a few seconds later and acts really enthusiastic about the game and says he had a lot fun doing it. He seems really conflicted about it, and I have to wonder where it comes from.
 
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Bill Murray is clearly being a dick, and he's turning his back on the fans, AND he's turning his back on what launched him into super-stardom. A person who refuses to revisit their roots or their hometown where they're loved by all the townspeople is not someone I particularly favor.


Yes but on the other side of that argument is that maybe Murray doesn't want to leave the dynasty hurting. I don't think he wants an indiana Jones 4. Sure it was hugely successful, but most people can agree that it didn't help the series, or add to its grandeur.
 
Again, he is free to stop the movie if he's not feeling it's a good movie. Doesn't mean he's being a dick or turning his back on the fans.
 
He can be a bit of a dick though, lets not lie about this. Way, way to many stories validate the fact he has a ego the size of Kentucky.
 
So is this coming out around the same time of the Arrested Development movie?
 
He can be a bit of a dick though, lets not lie about this. Way, way to many stories validate the fact he has a ego the size of Kentucky.

I think it's just the opposite. He doesnt need the money and the MONEY is not a reason to make GB3. The real reason to make GB3 is because it makes the story great and it will be a great movie. I think he's at a point in his career where he doesnt need to do anything, which is probably a good thing. That said, I do want GB3 myself... I love Ghostbusters. It's one of my favourite movies ever... but I dont want it to suck. I'd rather it not get made than be a dog turd.
 
Again, he is free to stop the movie if he's not feeling it's a good movie. Doesn't mean he's being a dick or turning his back on the fans.

I get the impression Murray would renege and agree to do Ghostbusters 3 if one of the guys needed the money that badly, and he'd just use it as an excuse to hang out together again. The latter was essentially why he said he agreed to do the second film. And look at what we got. :dry:

But the thing is...nobody is hurting for money. And for the life of me, I'm failing to see how Murray is "wrong" with his resentment of a third film judging by how Ghostbusters 2 turned out and just looking at the other "many, many years later" sequels with the original players back together in recent years save for Rocky Balboa.

Murray is so not being a dick with his stance on Ghostbusters. The fact that he's being such a hard-ass against it shows how much he cares about the product they first cooked up together 27 years ago.
 
...you can see he's not crazy about doing another movie. He's really dragging his heels about it. And that's putting it lightly. But then turns around a few seconds later and acts really enthusiastic about the game and says he had a lot fun doing it. He seems really conflicted about it, and I have to wonder where it comes from.

There is a major difference in his attitudes because there is a major diff between a computer game and a film, the film is the art, the game is just a bit of spin off fluff compared to that.

He really didn't like how the second movie turned out, and I agree with him. The first movie is pretty much a perfect sci-fi/fantasy film, whereas the second one is like the original on the surface, but when you get into all the details of the film, and how it differs from the first, you realise exactly why you don't class it in the same league, and why both Murray and Moranis felt it was a big step back in quality.

If the same creative personell could not get a second sequel to be even in the same league as the original film a few years later, what chances do they have of making one even as good as GBII nowadays, never mind GBI?
edit: I forgot about Rocky Balboa, as mentioned above, so it has been done, as that one was more in tone with the first film, unlike the other Rocky sequels.
 
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There is a major difference in his attitudes because there is a major diff between a computer game and a film, the film is the art, the game is just a bit of spin off fluff compared to that.

Well the major difference is entirely about workload. He spent a couple weeks in a nice, air-conditioned studio relaxing in a chair reading lines to make the game. A film is months and months and months of on set time, shoots, re-shoots, promotion... and God knows what else. The man's way past his best years... he may just not have the energy to strap on the proton pack and run around again. Honestly I don't know that any of them (short of the immortal Ernie Hudson) have that much left in the tank.

I still think his reluctance is due to that... and the fact that he's one of (an increasing number) of actors that absolutely hate sequels. They view their work as art that can't be recaptured in a second volume.
 
He can be a bit of a dick though, lets not lie about this. Way, way to many stories validate the fact he has a ego the size of Kentucky.

Even Harold Ramis was once quoted refering to Murray as an a**hole...but a brilliant a**hole. Lol.
 
Well the major difference is entirely about workload. He spent a couple weeks in a nice, air-conditioned studio relaxing in a chair reading lines to make the game. A film is months and months and months of on set time, shoots, re-shoots, promotion... and God knows what else. The man's way past his best years... he may just not have the energy to strap on the proton pack and run around again. Honestly I don't know that any of them (short of the immortal Ernie Hudson) have that much left in the tank.

I still think his reluctance is due to that... and the fact that he's one of (an increasing number) of actors that absolutely hate sequels. They view their work as art that can't be recaptured in a second volume.

Well, y'know, yeah, we are basically in agreement about his reasons, apart from the fact I was not really thinking about the workload aspect.

I don't think he was bsing when he said he would take a look at the script and consider it though.
edit: So, he must still be willing to put the work in on a major production if he feels the art is worth it. I imagine he is the kind of guy who would get bored sitting around at home and loves the action, I mean, do you recall a couple of years ago he got arrested for driving a golf buggy home when he was a bit drunk? he still has plenty of spirit in him yet.
 
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