Ghostbusters 3 - Part 2

[Destructus86]

They should have made it a spin-off. Let another group find the Ghostbusters old equipment mothballed and they take up the mantle.

Also...reading some of the ideas...I am not too confident they understand what made Ghostbusters so great. It had that every-man, blue-collar vibe. The equipment, the living conditions, the vehicle all of it looked dirty, old and macgyvered together.

That was a huge part of the charm...if they go sleek, super high-tech they remove that charm. :/ And by the sound of what they have planned they want the equipment to look really high-tech.

 

[Galactus123]

Female Ghostbusters? Fans don't want it, says Ernie Hudson:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...ters-Fans-dont-want-it-says-Ernie-Hudson.html

"I heard it was going to be a total reboot, and that it would have nothing to do with the other two movies," he said. "If it has nothing to do with the other two movies, and it's all female, then why are you calling it Ghostbusters?

I love females. I hope that if they go that way at least they'll be funny, and if they're not funny at least hopefully it'll be sexy. I love the idea of including women, I think that's great.

But all-female I think would be a bad idea. I don't think the fans want to see that.

Maybe it will come out and be the most amazing thing, but in my opinion I think it would be wrong to do another movie that didn't include the guys. And that didn't include me!"

"The studio puts out these announcements over the years that there's going to be another movie and I'm kind of going, that's interesting, nobody's told me about it," he said. "Maybe they just assume. 'Oh, we know we can get Ernie' - which is sadly true! I'm not the most difficult one to get."

 

[Lilbaz]

That made me feel so much better.

 

[Human Torch]

Ernie is a great guy.

Needless to say I agree with him.

 

[terry78]

Or they could just adapt this.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Also...reading some of the ideas...I am not too confident they understand what made Ghostbusters so great. It had that every-man, blue-collar vibe. The equipment, the living conditions, the vehicle all of it looked dirty, old and macgyvered together.

That was a huge part of the charm...if they go sleek, super high-tech they remove that charm. :/ And by the sound of what they have planned they want the equipment to look really high-tech.

But tech is less clunky than it used to be. The proton packs looked like makeshift vacuum cleaners, but today we have Roombas. It would look smaller and less dirty. You can by iPhone 3 for like 30 bucks on Ebay to steal parts from.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Female Ghostbusters? Fans don't want it, says Ernie Hudson:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...ters-Fans-dont-want-it-says-Ernie-Hudson.html

"I love females. I hope that if they go that way at least they'll be funny, and if they're not funny at least hopefully it'll be sexy."


Uh. Ernie, you're black. I understand being disappointed, but don't say something offensive.

 

[Lilbaz]

"I love females. I hope that if they go that way at least they'll be funny, and if they're not funny at least hopefully it'll be sexy."


Uh. Ernie, you're black. I understand being disappointed, but don't say something offensive.

If they're not funny or sexy they're f***ed.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Then don't call it Ghostbusters. Simple.

If your ditching all the Ghostbusters,mythology and world that's been established then what's the point besides a cash grab on the title? There's no way that people are gonna walk into a theatre for a movie called Ghostbusters and not think they will see at least some connection to the other films and characters. It's still too well known of a property.

I don't understand what's the difference between the Bionic Woman remaking not needing to reconnect to the old 6 million/Bionic Woman continuity to start. It's it's own thing. It didn't invalidate the old series.

I don't see it as invalidating the old Ghostbusters.

Same with any series that reimagines an old property unless it's like the Addams family that literally needs to be that family.

The clue is in the title. Next Generation. Yes it is linked just many years after the original was set.

TNG is established in the same continuity, but it wasn't beholden to it.

25 years after the original GB is a long time to simply skip over it. What happens in a world of ghost over 25 years is something you would have to address what happened to the last group. You couldn't really just pick up and run the way TNG did.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Except tng did have connections to the original, hell bones was in the first episode. And connections ran through every series. Every Star Trek wasn't a complete reboot with a new federation, damn even the official reboot had a link back

Bones cameoed in the first ep, but the series didn't require you to know who the original cast were or did to enjoy the series.

That's what's pissing me a few others off. The complete lack of connection, not that it's all women. I'm not gonna deny there are *******s crying over that fact but we just need to ignore them.

No connection harms the film, they don't even have to be related to any of the characters. The idw comic had it perfect it's all a franchise in different city's. Hell that comic at the moment has at least 8-10 ghostbusters male and female and even rival company's. But all connected

The recent trend of failed reboots says it doesn't. If anything, it points to failed creativity and just resting on fan service of rekindling old tropes.

Indy in the fridge. Marion.
The entire freaking prequel saga of Star Wars
Rambo
Terminator post T2
Prometheus and Aliens


The two must acclaimed and successful reboots, Apes, James Bond(Daniel Craig) and BSG, just took the story in a whole different direction without stepping on the previous stories.

Have the film set in a different city, the two main girls can't keep jobs so one gets the idea to buy the ghostbusters franchise and go from there. There you have your connection, you have already explained the equipment and tech and your obligatory cameo is Ray in a real cheesy tutorial/pitch video for the tech

But nah it has to be completely separate for no valid reason other than the director says so to sound creative

He said he wanted the world to be facing ghost for the first time and not 25 years of paranormal activity. Plus the first two are classics.

 

[def28]

Every single franchise you just mentioned was a hit though and people want more PLus pretty much all of them still have movies to be made with the exception of Rambo.

I thought the last Rambo was friggen awesome, made over 100m WW and got Stallone back in the game. I don't see how that failed.

Bond and BSG didn't ditch all their characters. They might have been reimagned but they are still a part of that world. Your alos forgetting the new Star Trek which not only kept their character names but still has original members, original actors, is in continuity and extremely successful.

Same with any series that reimagines an old property unless it's like the Addams family that literally needs to be that family.

Why? If you can change the names and erase the Ghostbusters why not the Addams Family while keeping the last name for the tile? That would be pointless too.

Ghostbusters (much like TMNT up there) is and was pretty much defined by it's 4 character leads. I don't see how it wasn't. Nothing wrong with adding new characters and expanding a world but it's just pointless to completely erase them. Obviously plenty of people don't want to see that happen.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

But tech is less clunky than it used to be. The proton packs looked like makeshift vacuum cleaners, but today we have Roombas. It would look smaller and less dirty. You can by iPhone 3 for like 30 bucks on Ebay to steal parts from.

I'd like something like rick Sanchez's portal gun.

or maybe they can all have different roles. like two of them could have the guns and two of them have the ghost trap, kind of like snipers are teamed with spotters.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Every single franchise you just mentioned was a hit though and is still in continuity with their old films. PLus pretty much all of them still have movies to be made with the exception of Rambo.

Terminator sucks(go into the new thread. it's depressing). None of those franchises are anywhere near pulling Avengers or Spider-man numbers the way the were in their heydays.

Prometheus is barely tied to Aliens and its sequel isn't even in production.

That's like saying the Simpsons is as good/popular today as it was when it started just because it's still on the air.

I thought the last Rambo was friggen awesome, made over 100m WW and got Stallone back in the game. I don't see how that failed.

You're welcome to you're opinion. I'm not sure a one-off movie is considered a success if it didn't restart the franchise like Bond did.

Bond and BSG didn't ditch all their characters. They might have been reimagned but they are still a part of that world. Your alos forgetting the new Star Trek which not only kept their character names but still has original members, original actors, is in continuity and extremely successful.

I'd quibble with Bond. M isn't even head of the team anymore so I'm not sure how you connect a 007 just starting off with a Pierce Brosnan's Bond if M was the only connection.

BSG had nothing to do with the 70s version. Starbuck wasn't a dude. You claim this is just stealing the Ghostbuster's name and merchandise but none of the characters. Who says Slimer won't be in this or a new Janine?

Yeah, Spock shows up in Abrams Trek, but Abram's Trek is also the reason why you don't want to tie into old continuity. The first movie did fine as it was it's own thing but eventually he got weighted under living up to the old series when they tried to do Khan. The exact reason Feig said he didn't want to use the old continuity.

Why? If you can change the names and erase the Ghostbusters why not the Addams Family while keeping the last name for the tile? That would be pointless too.

Ghostbusters (much like TMNT up there) is and was pretty much defined by it's 4 character leads. I don't see how it wasn't. Nothing wrong with adding new characters and expanding a world but it's just pointless to completely erase them. Obviously plenty of people don't want to see that happen.

Because it's called the Addam's family?

Charlie's Angels got a reboot and changed the Angels cause's Charlie is the name that sticks. The angels are a name for a group of women that work for Charlie.

Same with the Bionic Woman or Ghostbusters.

 

[def28]

No, the Ghostbusters are a group that are and were created by Peter Venkman, Ray Stantz and Egon. They are the Ghostbusters. I can change every name of the Addams family keep the last name, add new family members and it's the same exact thing as this. Your nitpicking.

For the most part I completely disagree with your over all points besides Terminator sucking haha. We are definitely not gonna see to eye to eye here so agree to disagree. I'm a huge fan of these characters, been following everything since I was a kid up until now. I have zero interest in seeing those characters completely disappearing after all this time in Video games, comics, Toys, TV Shows and film. Been really looking forward to this finally getting made but that's just a bummer for fans.

I just can't see the benefit for the franchise or this new one. Time will tell I guess.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I'd like something like rick Sanchez's portal gun.

or maybe they can all have different roles. like two of them could have the guns and two of them have the ghost trap, kind of like snipers are teamed with spotters.

I go even smaller. Like a reworked cellphone with something else attached to it.

Yeah. I think these Ghostbusters should be slightly more organized tech wise but still be unprepared for the tactical aspect.

I'm still not sure how to visually do a modern interpretation of ghost.

Possession is easy but I guess they could go for a MIB style ghost. Slimer would look more like something in that range of creature by today's standards.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Uh. Ernie, you're black. I understand being disappointed, but don't say something offensive.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

No, the Ghostbusters are a group that are and were created by Peter Venkman, Ray Stantz and Egon. They are the Ghostbusters. I can change every name of the Addams family keep the last name, add new family members and it's the same exact thing as this. Your nitpicking.
Time will tell I guess.

Okay. I see what you mean. That's such a hard interpretation though.

I guess growing up in 90s comics have beaten that out of me. Jay Garrick is the Flash to some people and Barry and Wally to others.

I'm a Kyle Rayner fan and don't give two craps about Hal Jordan.

The Addams family can be anyone but the visuals are connected to certain names.

If Feig is updating the visuals and ditching other visuals for something new then I'm willing to let him go. If we are just getting the same old Slimer and proton packs then yeah, just recast old gang or put the band back together.

 

[Lilbaz]

At the end of the day any film linked with the word reboot, pisses me off.

I don't mind (so much) revisiting, books or comicbooks, but rebooting a film is just ****. Make a new one.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Because the only thing female comedians can be is either funny or sexy. They can't just be unfunny.

I guess he's hoping for skin-tight jumpsuits with cleavage out and nipples poking through when they get slimed.

When The Hangover fails, it's because it wasn't good. That's it.

 

[def28]

Okay. I see what you mean. That's such a hard interpretation though.

I guess growing up in 90s comics have beaten that out of me. Jay Garrick is the Flash to some people and Barry and Wally to others.

I'm a Kyle Rayner fan and don't give two craps about Hal Jordan.

The Addams family can be anyone but the visuals are connected to certain names.

If Feig is updating the visuals and ditching other visuals for something new then I'm willing to let him go. If we are just getting the same old Slimer and proton packs then yeah, just recast old gang or put the band back together.

Definitely, I can see that pov. Ghostbusters in it's entire lifespan has just never had that switch where we can have alternative leads or a completely different world where they didn't exist. That's why I guess I keep comparing it to TMNT of all things. I just can't see a world without the main teams characters cause it really has just never existed.

But yeah we'll see.

 

[JangoNate]

Okay. I see what you mean. That's such a hard interpretation though.

I guess growing up in 90s comics have beaten that out of me. Jay Garrick is the Flash to some people and Barry and Wally to others.

I'm a Kyle Rayner fan and don't give two craps about Hal Jordan.

The Addams family can be anyone but the visuals are connected to certain names.

If Feig is updating the visuals and ditching other visuals for something new then I'm willing to let him go. If we are just getting the same old Slimer and proton packs then yeah, just recast old gang or put the band back together.

Barry Allen and Has Jordan all the way! Though my little boy's name is Allen Scott.

Everything you say about the next Ghostbusters...keep saying it. We see eye to eye.

Apes need talking smart apes to be an Apes movie. All other characters were brand new. I just need the busting of ghosts (wrangling to be more specific). Keep the beams similar and a need for a trap. Maintain that blue collar job feel, too. Since I was a kid I never tried to be an iconic GB. I wanted to be me as a GB. I was a fan of the tech and my life was complete when I finished my proton pack. Now I get to see how they update the tech and as long as it has a few nods to the original gear, but maintains being something modern, I'm cool.

GB and GB2 will always be 'my' GB, but I'm excited to see what they do next. Nothing it could do will affect my love of the originals.

 

[JangoNate]

Definitely, I can see that pov. Ghostbusters in it's entire lifespan has just never had that switch where we can have alternative leads or a completely different world where they didn't exist. That's why I guess I keep comparing it to TMNT of all things. I just can't see a world without the main teams characters cause it really has just never existed.

But yeah we'll see.

It'll be interesting to see how kids of this reboot generation views things down the road. Not a lot has been 'new' for them.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

At the end of the day any film linked with the word reboot, pisses me off.

I don't mind (so much) revisiting, books or comicbooks, but rebooting a film is just ****. Make a new one.

I mean, does the Departed bother people since it's based on Infernal Affairs?

When we're re-adapting stuff that we have no business doing. The original Step Up is basically the modern version of Dirty Dancing so why are they trying to redo Dirty Dancing?

As someone in the Terminator thread said, T2 wrapped up the story and then it was undone. Why?

What is the point of Jurassic World? Is there something more that needs to be said outside of "don't f--k with these Dinos?" that the original didn't say?

 

[def28]

It'll be interesting to see how kids of this reboot generation views things down the road. Not a lot has been 'new' for them.

Honestly granted the film is good, I think that could potentially be the only negative hit of having an all female crew. With exceptions, younger boys and girls do gravitate to characters of their own sex. If there are no male Ghostbusters I don't see it being as popular with younger males. And much like the 80s did, they will need some cartoons to lighten things up for a majority of kids. That's were all the merch back then came from. Maybe a cartoon series that features both the old and new would be the best. They wouldn't age that way and it wouldn't be alienating either male or female Ghostbusters from the team. Which would just be stronger marketing to that demo.

But it will be interesting for sure. Plenty of 80s properties play strong nowadays, don't see how this would be any different if they think this through right.

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

Female Ghostbusters? Fans don't want it, says Ernie Hudson:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...ters-Fans-dont-want-it-says-Ernie-Hudson.html

way to go Ernie thanks for speaking up