Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019) - Part 1

[MahvelBaby!]

Yeah I figured lol. Hopefully I love this more than venom.

 

[samsnee]

I can’t think of any recent movie that’s started low with a RT score and has gone on to being fresh.

 

[Sithborg]

I loved Venom. But the critic reaction is totally deserved. That is where the fanboys have issues.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I remember 2 less recent ones both mcu films the first captain America and the first ant man @samsnee

 

[Iceman]

I had watched Kong: Skull Island for the first time last month. To finish my prep for this movie, I watched the 2014 Godzilla. Once again, I think it's an underrated movie. Not perfect by any means and the military are pretty stupid in the movie, but there is a lot I liked about it as well. It held up for me.

So pumped for Thursday!!!

What did you think of Skull Island?

 

[SomeOldGuy]

10/10 from moviebob so there’s that at least...

 

[Iceman]

I loved Venom. But the critic reaction is totally deserved. That is where the fanboys have issues.

Yeah, I feel this way about a lot of films I like. I also feel that way about a fair number of films I don't love that have a high rating, where I can see where the high rating came from.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

All of the YouTube reviews I've seen have been positive.

9 and an 8.5 from collider but not sure those specific collider peeps are on RT

 

[Binker]

I can’t think of any recent movie that’s started low with a RT score and has gone on to being fresh.

Has it?

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I'm one of the only people in the world that legitimately loves in the heart of the sea...I was dumbfounded when I looked up the critics score on that.

But we all got movies we love that others don't. That's the fun of it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And yet those things you mentioned were much better-reviewed. As are others you didn’t mention that could also make that claim, like the John Wick movies. So wouldn’t logic suggest that maybe this problem is just that much worse in this film compared to those in their eyes? Or that other elements fail to compensate for it?

I can get people disagreeing on aspects of films. I can see how some think there is an inherent contradiction in how some films are reviewed compared to other. But when it comes to stuff like this, I wonder why multiple reviewers might have focused on something like that. And it always takes me back to the idea that the rest of the film isn't good enough to not make it an issue for multiple people.

 

[Iceman]

Get out of here with that nuanced stuff. Critics are evil!

Only 48% of them are evil beyond reproach. The other 52% are rock stars.

 

[Abudefduf]

This isn't a hated movie. This is a mixed reaction movie. Now Hellboy, THAT was a hated movie. Rotten doesn't automatically mean hated.

Most of the first reviews were negative. They're getting better now

 

[James.B]

 

[redhawk23]

More than being "bad" I'm surprised by how divisive this film has turned out to be so far with critics. A near 50/50 split. It's kind of nuts because the 2014 fiilm ended up with a 75% despite being a bit of characterless slog.

 

[a user]

It's kind of nuts because the 2014 fiilm ended up with a 75% despite being a bit of characterless slog.

That's why I couldn't care less about the reviews.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

And yet those things you mentioned were much better-reviewed. As are others you didn’t mention that could also make that claim, like the John Wick movies. So wouldn’t logic suggest that maybe this problem is just that much worse in this film compared to those in their eyes? Or that other elements fail to compensate for it?

It may well be as you say flick. But at first glance things like a one star rating and thosevsnarky review titles feel unnecessarily over the top.

It may well be a case of like say the Jackson Kong where I myself felt that the there being some exquisite set pieces and grand production design didn't save the film in the end for myself because it doesn't gel as a whole. Same goes for Pacific Rim, where I loved the vibe and the action but found nearly everything else that wasn't visual spectacle wanting.

Even then... I wouldn't give either of those movies a one star rating. And given the footage we have seen the complaints of unclear action or looks at the creatures feel head scratching and don't seem likely.

I was never expecting some rave reviews or mass critical acceptance of this movie in the first place but those three reviews (and that's all I am referring to) felt less like considered appreciation of a movie's good or bad points and more like blanket dismissal from the jump.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I am not shocked by the current score. But Godzilla is my jam. Love these movies, even some of the cheesy bad ones I have fun with. So this doesn't discourage me at all. I just hope I end up disagreeing

 

[daddydivine]

I kinda figured the studio might overreact to the more monsters and action criticism the first movie received. They actually listened to fans though and we'll see how this plays out at the box office.

 

[redhawk23]

Scores' going up. It might pull off a fresh 60% yet.

 

[a user]

58% now with a 5.99/10 average rating.

To be real, though, I suspect it'll be brought back down a fair bit once the Top Critics' reviews come in.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Damn the reviews, my whole 29 years of life on this Earth I have been a Godzilla fan, and I’m not gonna stop now. However I’ll suggest this:

If the studio is so intent on having movie stars in these American kaiju films, they have to start using their imagination. Give us all the stars you want, but start making their characters interesting, like princesses who are possessed by Martians, someone who has a psychic link to Godzilla, twin fairies that summon Mothra, humans disguised as ape aliens to destroy the world. I don’t give a damn about military scientists, I just wanna see Godzilla tear shxt up.

Having those out there characters like that gives us something to think about before we see the monster carnage.

 

[Spider-Fan]

What did you think of Skull Island?

Liked it, but I probably liked the 2014 Godzilla slightly more. Kong was in it more than Godzilla felt like he was in his movie, but there were barely any character arcs in the movie. But while this new one may have that same issue, I see the monster action being better than Kong's.

 

[Sithborg]

On the other hand, Shin Godzilla made freaking government beaucracy work.

 

[Enriquespy]

By its description I shouldn't like Shin Godzilla, yet I do.

It's weird.

Which means I'll have to form my own opinion on this one too, whatever critics say.