Godzilla vs Kong (2021)

[Loden Greatstorm]

I dont know man but if its a Silverback Gorilla vs a Salt Water Crocodile I'm betting on the Croc.

I'm not... Do you have any idea how powerful and strong a silverback gorilla is?

 

[Punisher_MAX]

I'm not... Do you have any idea how powerful and strong a silverback gorilla is?

Do you know strong and powerful a 20 ft Saltie is? Gorilllas and Chimps actively avoid Nile Crocs and they are smaller than Salties.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Do you know strong and powerful a 20 ft Saltie is? Gorilllas and Chimps actively avoid Nile Crocs and they are smaller than Salties.

Don’t be mad when my boy Kong beats up Zilla’. It’s just a movie...

 

[3rdstone]

This was entertaining to read. Thanks guys, I had some serious laughs.

 

[Flash525]

Octopi are highly intelligent.

Well the one Kong squished wasn't.

I rewatched Skull Island Sunday evening - I haven't seen it in some time and most of my reflection was from the other Kong film with Adrian Broody. In any case, and I didn't think I'd ever say this but I'm not so sure about Godzilla easily taking the victory now. I suppose part of it is my error in comparing the Kong of the 2005 film to the Kong of Skull Island (and the one that'll feature in Kong vs Godzilla).

Kong is quite large in Skull Island, sure, he's not sizeable to Zilla here, but this film is set some 45-50 years before he's going to come face to face with Godzilla, and that's plenty of time for him to grow. Godzilla is going to be slower than Kong in everything it/he does, Kong will have the speed advantage, and possibly the intelligence. Kong isn't a quitter either, not to say that Godzilla is, it's just we've seen Kong protect, whereas we've only seen Godzilla defend; there's a difference here.

If Zilla can get that flamethrower off, I think Kong would suffer; it's blue fire, which is one hell of a lot hotter than normal fire (not something Kong would easily just shake off) but Zilla is going to need to focus that, and Kong, I think, is quick enough to get out of the way, or deflect it if close up. I still hold the thought that Zilla is more durable (reptiles generally are) but I do start to question whether Kong's speed resilience may give him the advantage here.

Sorry for jumping sides too (heh), but I'd urge everyone to watch both films (Skull Island and Godzilla) again, take into account what happens on both films and who (or what?) the antagonist creatures are, and then take into account how much Kong could grow in 50 years.

I certainly don't think it'll be as clear cut as one easily defeats the other, but I'm definitely more open now that Kong could come away the victor. The open-ended question would be why the victor wouldn't kill the other. Presumably (I'm guessing) one would win, only for another threat to emerge and they band together to defeat said threat.

 

[Aurakles]

I think it's folly to try to work out who'd win based on real life animals; these are imaginary giants who regularly flaunt the laws of phsyics. Godzilla in particular cannot be judged based on crocodiles or lizards, he's an atomic powered sea dragon, nothing similar to him exists in our world.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I think it's folly to try to work out who'd win based on real life animals; these are imaginary giants who regularly flaunt the laws of phsyics. Godzilla in particular cannot be judged based on crocodiles or lizards, he's an atomic powered sea dragon, nothing similar to him exists in our world.

Preach.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

I think it's folly to try to work out who'd win based on real life animals; these are imaginary giants who regularly flaunt the laws of phsyics. Godzilla in particular cannot be judged based on crocodiles or lizards, he's an atomic powered sea dragon, nothing similar to him exists in our world.

I mean, someone brought in real life animals into this argument so I just put my two cents in lol

 

[ultimatereserve]

Well the one Kong squished wasn't.

I rewatched Skull Island Sunday evening - I haven't seen it in some time and most of my reflection was from the other Kong film with Adrian Broody. In any case, and I didn't think I'd ever say this but I'm not so sure about Godzilla easily taking the victory now. I suppose part of it is my error in comparing the Kong of the 2005 film to the Kong of Skull Island (and the one that'll feature in Kong vs Godzilla).

Kong is quite large in Skull Island, sure, he's not sizeable to Zilla here, but this film is set some 45-50 years before he's going to come face to face with Godzilla, and that's plenty of time for him to grow. Godzilla is going to be slower than Kong in everything it/he does, Kong will have the speed advantage, and possibly the intelligence. Kong isn't a quitter either, not to say that Godzilla is, it's just we've seen Kong protect, whereas we've only seen Godzilla defend; there's a difference here.

If Zilla can get that flamethrower off, I think Kong would suffer; it's blue fire, which is one hell of a lot hotter than normal fire (not something Kong would easily just shake off) but Zilla is going to need to focus that, and Kong, I think, is quick enough to get out of the way, or deflect it if close up. I still hold the thought that Zilla is more durable (reptiles generally are) but I do start to question whether Kong's speed resilience may give him the advantage here.

Sorry for jumping sides too (heh), but I'd urge everyone to watch both films (Skull Island and Godzilla) again, take into account what happens on both films and who (or what?) the antagonist creatures are, and then take into account how much Kong could grow in 50 years.

I certainly don't think it'll be as clear cut as one easily defeats the other, but I'm definitely more open now that Kong could come away the victor. The open-ended question would be why the victor wouldn't kill the other. Presumably (I'm guessing) one would win, only for another threat to emerge and they band together to defeat said threat.

Totally man, this is what ive been saying and i think you are right, alot of people have the size and durability of the 05 Kong in mind but this wont be the case, hes very agile and quick and as for his size he looks like he will be bigger than Godzilla. That promo shot at least shows this.

This fire is incredible hot but im not sure if its welding torch hot or that its blue because of the source, he hits to outside of the MOTU with is in Godzilla and it doesnt do much but when he gets to the soft insides it works so its hard to say but im betting his snags Kongs arm or chest with it leaving a serious injury but even with that being said, Kong can learn and will know that he needs to stay away from it.

Did you notice Kong having the ability to throw things being a big deal, especially now with his size he can stab Godzilla with a boat or rock or really anything, I also think we will see him holding Godzilla glowing mouth shut as he tries to blast him.

Im still sticking to it not being a movie about these 2 but them finally teaming up. I bet even Monarch knows he can beat him. I have to wonder if these Titan hunters know about Kong or if that file got hidden and buried. I really hope John C Reilys character comes back.

 

[Arachnerd]

I think you're somewhat underestimating Godzilla here? I'm pretty sure that even if Kong wins, it's not gonna be a complete one-sided beatdown.

No one wants that.

 

[ultimatereserve]

Nono it wont be and Kong will have permanent damage after this fight but I believe the studio will count on people expecting one thing and being pleasantly surprised with the real outcome. Despite seeing how and why Kong will have the upperhand I dont want it one sided either. I think Godzilla will shine when the 2 go against the Titan hunters and it will balance things out.

 

[Flash525]

Im still sticking to it not being a movie about these 2 but them finally teaming up. I bet even Monarch knows he can beat him. I have to wonder if these Titan hunters know about Kong or if that file got hidden and buried. I really hope John C Reilys character comes back.

Even though the main Monarch guy from Skull Island didn't make it home, I'd wager that Monarch know all too well that there's something on that island; it may just be that they aren't aware it's a giant Gorilla.

 

[Aurakles]

It's a while since I watched skull island, but I'n sure a bunch of the main characters survived. Wasn't the post credit them being debriefed by Monarch?

 

[Schlosser85]

It's a while since I watched skull island, but I'n sure a bunch of the main characters survived. Wasn't the post credit them being debriefed by Monarch?

Yep, Hiddleston and Larson's characters.

 

[ultimatereserve]

I havent heard anything about them coming back but i hope atleast a few do. Why show them having stayed involved unless they get silenced by the government but thats why id love to see reily back because i dont think hed care and technically with all the time of him on the island hed be a pretty high ranking officer.

 

[jaqua99]

Nono it wont be and Kong will have permanent damage after this fight but I believe the studio will count on people expecting one thing and being pleasantly surprised with the real outcome. Despite seeing how and why Kong will have the upperhand I dont want it one sided either. I think Godzilla will shine when the 2 go against the Titan hunters and it will balance things out.

Lets make it clear...Kong will be the tragic hero/monster. He is Absolutely going to be the underdog against Godzilla.

Based on the leaks, and Godzilla's durability feats...

Well, lets just say that even if we scale Kong's strength/durability and height up to Godzilla's height, Kong will get murdered. A helicopter blade pierced him.

And how Godzilla is powerwise at the end of KOTM...lol at Kong being able to take him cause he is now the same size.

Seriously.. LOL. Kong will have some sort of buff...dont know what it is, but Kong being bigger and stronger is simply not enough to put up a fight against this Godzilla,.much less beat him. Kong will have some sort of power amp or something. Godzilla is on a whole different level than a scaled up version of Kong.

And for those who have stayed spoiler free...you are not ready for this Ghidorah....most powerful Ghidorah yet..

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

I'm not sure how anyone can think Kong could take out Godzilla. Obviously this is fiction and ultimately it's up to the script, but G survived a nuke. Kong is inconvenienced by napalm.

 

[KevTravels]

Danai Gurira aka General Okoye aka Michonne is gonna be in this right?

 

[ultimatereserve]

Lets make it clear...Kong will be the tragic hero/monster. He is Absolutely going to be the underdog against Godzilla.

Based on the leaks, and Godzilla's durability feats...

Well, lets just say that even if we scale Kong's strength/durability and height up to Godzilla's height, Kong will get murdered. A helicopter blade pierced him.

And how Godzilla is powerwise at the end of KOTM...lol at Kong being able to take him cause he is now the same size.

Seriously.. LOL. Kong will have some sort of buff...dont know what it is, but Kong being bigger and stronger is simply not enough to put up a fight against this Godzilla,.much less beat him. Kong will have some sort of power amp or something. Godzilla is on a whole different level than a scaled up version of Kong.

And for those who have stayed spoiler free...you are not ready for this Ghidorah....most powerful Ghidorah yet..

Kongs “buffs” have all been listed-

can dodge pretty much every attack Godzilla is capable off

Faster and more efficient distance attacks(for instance Godzilla fire breath being a sword to kongs ability to use projectiles being a gun)

Hes way smarter and can trick/trap Godzilla

He is so much stronger that he can chuck Godzilla across the river-(Godzilla even with equal strength is physically not capable of this)

Kong having faught more battles and various foes giving him a melee advantage

Giant arms that are 3 times as long as Godzillas and infinitely more capable so he can essentially hold his face and Godzilla just blindly swing like a little kid agianst a middle schooler


The list goes on and agian this happened before and the outcome will be the same

This will be a shock value point for the film.

I dont know why people are bringing up Godzilla getting more powerful or upgraded somehow in KOTM-was there or leak or something saying his breath gets stronger? He doesn’t have an visible physical changes so unless I missed something this is just a similar upgrade and the 90’s G got after absorbing Rodan-which could happen agian I guess. You have to remember that Godzilla stomic breath hit the MOTU’s a few times and had little effect until he got it into there mouth. Are the MOTU more armored or tough shelled than Kong? I figure so with them being insect like but still its not a light saber.

Kong is not the underdog, he has this in the bag already.

As for Godzilla vs Ghidora-apples and oranges, always has been even in Japan throughout the decades. Ghidora also has no arms which are very important when you are fighting a character with devastatingly strong arms. Take out the head-take out the Ghidora. Hedorah, Destroyah, Mothra, Kong, Mecha Godzilla, Gigan and so on have caused Godzilla so much more damage than Ghidora that playing him at such a high card just doesnt have backing.

 

[ultimatereserve]

I'm not sure how anyone can think Kong could take out Godzilla. Obviously this is fiction and ultimately it's up to the script, but G survived a nuke. Kong is inconvenienced by napalm.

We never saw what actually happened, his spines were in the water and thats all we know, he could have been torn in half and slowly healed over the decades of him having been missing(where else was he? Asleep?). the listed examples of Kongs advantages are all seen on screen.

As for Napalm, Godzilla has to breath as well so im sure it would bother him too. He is effected by smoke screens so i figure thats the case.

 

[Inhuman117]

the moment Kong gets a chance to get behind Godzilla , and also the chance to pack G's Jaws Godzilla has a Big Problem

 

[Abudefduf]

the moment Kong gets a chance to get behind Godzilla

 

[ultimatereserve]

the moment Kong gets a chance to get behind Godzilla , and also the chance to pack G's Jaws Godzilla has a Big Problem

He probably will either grab his snout while hes about to fire at him or smash a bus or something into his mouth.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Kong will come into contact with Godzilla and develop lymphoma...on account of the fact that he's just a big ****ing monkey and Godzilla is literally a walking nuclear reactor. That hairy sumbitch will go the way of Marie Curie.

 

[ultimatereserve]

Him being a big ape is exactly why that is not true.

As far as we know Godzilla doesnt give off harmful radation, if he did he would really mess up the ocean and get alot of people sick from the city, especially after he was napping there for awhile. I think they just absorb radiation.