Green Lantern Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[Docker2.0]

Fierrst of all Im not a Green Lantern fanboy . Never really read the books but like the movie a lot , and I would consider myself a Batman fanboy but have no problen calling Batman & Robin a pile of horse *****

I quoted another poster who quoted another poster, so where did you come in? And I wasn't really talking about anyone in general just saying.............in general. I can't lie, I am a GL fanboy more pissed off that WB dropped the ball on this than anything else. Please don't get offended so easily.

 

[Tony Stark]

This is just too depressing. I was worried about this film a year ago from the less than impressive comicon debut. I can see those worries were well founded as this film will likely go down as the most forgettable comic book movie of all time. Which may actually bode well for the reboot.

There's no arguing the point, this movie is worse than Fantastic Four, it's worse than the Hulk, it's worse than Ghost Rider. The numbers speak for themselves, people don't give a crap about this movie, and while Bad Teacher probably overperformed, Cars 2 while it did a bit better than the original in the opening weekend, when you calculate 3D and inflation it opened lower than the first.

There's no exucse for Green Lantern, you reap what you sew, and the film makers just dumped a pile of excrement on the public and expected that we'd go flocking to it, because of the marketing and it had lots of cool toy and video game potential. Forget that movies like the Dark Knight and Iron Man had huge appeal to groups of all ages.

I am both extremely depressed and happy at the same time this bombed. I'm depressed because it set comic book movies back 10 years, and I'm happy, because the studio knows that the public won't accept any piece of crap thrown at us, with the expectation that we'll like it.

 

[KalMart]

I've said it before, but I think it warrants repeating, it's not just on the silver screen that WB is looking to franchise Green Lantern. Which indicates to me that they might not be as willing to drop the film franchise after this bad showing. They've got GL: The Animated Series premiering this fall, and from the likes of Bruce Timm no less, which is almost a guaranteed Emmy. It'll certainly be a success, with the only potential weak link I can see thus far being the choice to CGI Timm's usual retro style.

Box office figures are surely important, but might be less so if they see themselves not just recouping with DVD/Blu-Ray sales of this movie, but also the success of GL:TAS and it's merch and DVD sales(the first of which will probably be on shelves by Christmas time). And the currently announced formula of GL:TAS of "lots of space, very little Earth" could prove a well needed lesson to the approach taken for a GL2.

It may not make a profit but wb may see enough potential to warrent a sequel . If it sells enough toys , the tv shows do good etccc . Ancillory market is as important as ticket as the box office .

So they should just keep GL in animation/DVD-Only release/comics/toys if it makes money there, and save themselves the huge costs and agony of having him on film again.

 

[Poni_Boy]

It may not make a profit but wb may see enough potential to warrent a sequel . If it sells enough toys , the tv shows do good etccc . Ancillory market is as important as ticket as the box office .

Not even close

 

[akfj]

True. After B&R WB swore up and down we'd get a sequel, after SR WB swore we'd get a sequel, and after Spiderman 3 Sony swore we'd get a sequel. We eventually have gotten Batman, Superman and Spiderman films but they aren't sequels. Something tells me the same will happen to GL. I suspect WB still thinks there's money to be made in GL but this sequel talk is more about face saving then anything else.

Aside from Spider-Man 4, which there did seem to be some movement on by Sony, I don't think you can really say that WB swore we would get Batman Triumphant or the Superman Returns sequel. There was some definite hesitancy there.

WB has always been hesitant with its superhero films, even with Batman and Superman. The 1989 Batman movie was in development for ten years. Follow-ups to Superman IV and Batman & Robin were in development for almost twenty years and over five years, respectively. It took ten years to make the Catwoman movie that was put into development right after Batman Returns came out, when it would have made the most sense to make it.

 

[Frodo]

I am both extremely depressed and happy at the same time this bombed. I'm depressed because it set comic book movies back 10 years, and I'm happy, because the studio knows that the public won't accept any piece of crap thrown at us, with the expectation that we'll like it.

While I don't think its set the genre back it does show that audiences expect better , which is a good thing. It also puts a bit of pressure on Cap to be good and not just another hero film.

 

[DaveMoral]

So they should just keep GL in animation/DVD-Only release/comics/toys if it makes money there, and save themselves the huge costs and agony of having him on film again.

I don't think that's a sensible view though. If he works in animation he can work on screen. They just need the right team on the script and obviously having so many hands in the pot resulted in a mess this time out. They also need a director that can do this kind of stuff.

 

[Frodo]

Aside from Spider-Man 4, which there did seem to be some movement on by Sony, I don't think you can really say that WB swore we would get Batman Triumphant or the Superman Returns sequel. There was some definite hesitancy there.

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WB as pretty set on a Batman 5 of some sort for quite sometime and WB announced as much several times. Batman Triumphant was one script but WB had planned for a Batman 5 of some sort even after the reaction to B&R. B&R was a disappointment to be sure .but it wasn't apparent that a reboot was solution until a couple of years later . You have to remember back in the mid to late 90's the whole concept of a reboots as we know them today didn't exist.

Schumacer proposed year one after B&R but the studio didn't automatically run with it. There were at least two B5 scripts that were floating around though none greenlit . You even had a Batman Beyond live action script.However around 1999 to 2000 they were open to the idea of a reboot. That's when Darren Aronofsky came on board . Then you also had BVS which was a loose sequel to Burton/Schumacer films. A Batman 5 was alot closer then people remember because the myth was that B&R was so bad that WB rebooted the series but it didn't happen so quickly , nor was a reboot the original plan.

As for a Superman Returns sequel, WB was a bit more cautious then they were with B&R.

 

[kedrell]

Actual weekend: $18,028,056

Dropped $322K from the estimates. 66.1% drop.

 

[KalMart]

I don't think that's a sensible view though. If he works in animation he can work on screen.

That's not very sensible, either, after they've already had a $200M debacle under their belt.

They just need the right team on the script and obviously having so many hands in the pot resulted in a mess this time out. They also need a director that can do this kind of stuff.

Or they need to try another character and learn from their mistakes on this one....or reboot later down the road if they really believe that Green Lantern has some innate potential as a cinematic front-runner.

 

[Spider-Fan]

That's not very sensible, either, after they've already had a $200M debacle under their belt.


Or they need to try another character and learn from their mistakes on this one....or reboot later down the road if they really believe that Green Lantern has some innate potential as a cinematic front-runner.

I see GL very much where Hulk is right now. If WB still wants to do what Marvel did, then they have to run with something else. Prob Flash would be safest so go there (since Superman is already coming). Then maybe Wonder Woman (if they get a solid script). Once the JLA card is played, GL may then get a boost in populairty if that catches on, so now a GL2 is more sensible. But, much like Hulk, no sequel will be coming unless they get a bump from a larger property they were involved in.

 

[kedrell]

I see GL very much where Hulk is right now. If WB still wants to do what Marvel did, then they have to run with something else. Prob Flash would be safest so go there (since Superman is already coming). Then maybe Wonder Woman (if they get a solid script). Once the JLA card is played, GL may then get a boost in populairty if that catches on, so now a GL2 is more sensible. But, much like Hulk, no sequel will be coming unless they get a bump from a larger property they were involved in.

How do you figure. At the end of the day,neither Universal nor Marvel ever lost money on a Hulk movie. WB/DC is gonna eat $100M loss at least on GL.

 

[Spider-Fan]

How do you figure. At the end of the day,neither Universal nor Marvel ever lost money on a Hulk movie. WB/DC is gonna eat $100M loss at least on GL.

They didn't lose money on Hulk movies, but there is also no interest from Marvel currently in Hulk sequels, so it is essentially the same effect as if it did lose money. Now, maybe if Avengers makes money, a sequel to TIH will materialize, which is my point on GL. I think a GL sequel might happen if a JLA movie is big (if they make a JLA movie, I am sure GL would be included). But, short of that...WB I see having no interest.

 

[Tony Stark]

The big problem with doing sequels is that for guys like Reynolds and Strong, they hope that it will promote their careers the way it did for Downey Jr., Bale, and Toby Maguire. Since that obviously didn't happen, they will dump this franchise like an old gym sock.

These guys aren't dumb, they may be "contractually obligated" to do a sequel, but they can opt out, and will if it doesn't promote their career. Think about it, these actors give up months of their life to do one project. Why would they commit to a sequel that may not happen, and if it does obviously under different direction.

Their agents will line up other projects for them. These guys want to work, they aren't committed to the characters, it's about work for them.

If there's a sequel, expect a whole new cast.

 

[EliteF50]

I highly doubt that. I know for a fact Ryan would run back to a sequel. I mean, sure the guy's got some other projects lined up, but they're all simple comedies that also don't promote his career. Unless Deadpool happens, I'm sure he'd love to play GL again.

 

[KalMart]

I highly doubt that. I know for a fact Ryan would run back to a sequel. I mean, sure the guy's got some other projects lined up, but they're all simple comedies that also don't promote his career. Unless Deadpool happens, I'm sure he'd love to play GL again.

Well...if Clooney was still able to build his career without playing Batman again...Ryan may want to take inspiration from that.

 

[SuperAl]

i would guess that he signed a contract to appear in more than one movie so i doubt it matters what he wants. He cant opt out of a contract, whats the point of having a contract if you can just opt out whenever you want.

 

[The Sage]

I highly doubt that. I know for a fact Ryan would run back to a sequel. I mean, sure the guy's got some other projects lined up, but they're all simple comedies that also don't promote his career. Unless Deadpool happens, I'm sure he'd love to play GL again.

Not all comedies, as he's either in the middle of or finishing a movie he's doing with Denzel Washington.

 

[EliteF50]

Well...if Clooney was still able to build his career without playing Batman again...Ryan may want to take inspiration from that.

But GL has potential. A sequel to Batman & Robin would have sent Clooney to an early grave.

Not all comedies, as he's either in the middle of or finishing a movie he's doing with Denzel Washington.

Well, that's good. I didn't know that. But I still think he'd love to play Hal again.

 

[Karelia]

I think RR would come back if a sequel is greenlit. Which I hope happens.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I highly doubt that. I know for a fact Ryan would run back to a sequel. I mean, sure the guy's got some other projects lined up, but they're all simple comedies that also don't promote his career. Unless Deadpool happens, I'm sure he'd love to play GL again.

You know for a fact?

 

[KalMart]

But GL has potential. A sequel to Batman & Robin would have sent Clooney to an early grave.

Which is why it was rebooted. I'd say GL's 'potential' is looking rather similar, if it's lucky.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Which is why it was rebooted. I'd say GL's 'potential' is looking rather similar, if it's lucky.

Give it five years then reboot it with WETA effects, an unknown actor in the lead and Neill Blomkamp at it's helm

 

[biolumen]

According to BOM, this past weekends actuals were a bit lower than the already low estimates.

Weekend = $18 million
Domestic total through Sunday = $89 million

It still hasn't reached $120 million WW.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=greenlantern.htm

 

[Tacit Ronin]

You know for a fact?

Ryan Reynolds posts here!