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I picked up these quotes from a separate thread in danger of being closed b/c it was getting way off topic, but I wanted to continue the discussion here.
As for the growth of his character, essentially, you’re saying the big change in Superman’s character was that he learned to say ‘goodbye.’ That doesn’t strike me as a significant change since it is something so common that he should already know to do this. It is so common that every child learns to say goodbye when they are leaving someplace or someone as one of his or her first words. For this to be the significant growth in an adult character is wildly ridiculous.
Which is the best argument for a reboot I’ve ever heard. This storyline is not the way to go with Superman, it was a bad idea from the start and continuing down this path will only make it worse.
Becoming a parent is not a reward, being a parent is rewarding. Superman did nothing in the conception of Jason or his treatment Lois to be proud of. His acts in fact were reprehensible. He doesn’t deserve a reward for them, but rather admonishment and punishment.
At no point in the film were her public acts in question. IT’s his personal life which has been mischaracterized. And the fact that he acts differently is also an issue.
But shouldn’t he have been a true hero at the beginning of the movie as well? At what point in his career has Superman not been a true hero? Isn’t it ridiculous to say that it took him 10 years into his career to become a ‘true hero?’
Which is why i feel the character developed, come the end of SR he is not the same character as the start IMO, he has learned from his mistakes,
As for the growth of his character, essentially, you’re saying the big change in Superman’s character was that he learned to say ‘goodbye.’ That doesn’t strike me as a significant change since it is something so common that he should already know to do this. It is so common that every child learns to say goodbye when they are leaving someplace or someone as one of his or her first words. For this to be the significant growth in an adult character is wildly ridiculous.
and will spend the rest of his life trying to apologise for them by being there for Lois and Jason, if a sequel is made, this is what we will see IMO.
Which is the best argument for a reboot I’ve ever heard. This storyline is not the way to go with Superman, it was a bad idea from the start and continuing down this path will only make it worse.
IMO he deserved a reward for all of the deeds he performed in the movie, doesnt he deserve an award for the saving the plane?
Becoming a parent is not a reward, being a parent is rewarding. Superman did nothing in the conception of Jason or his treatment Lois to be proud of. His acts in fact were reprehensible. He doesn’t deserve a reward for them, but rather admonishment and punishment.
Or going around Metropolis saving people instead of being selfish and going to save Lois (a truly heroic act IMO)? Or risking his life to save America (another truly heroic act, because if he fails, he perishes)?
At no point in the film were her public acts in question. IT’s his personal life which has been mischaracterized. And the fact that he acts differently is also an issue.
As i said, he made a mistake, paid for it, apologised, and grew into a true hero by the end of the movie.
But shouldn’t he have been a true hero at the beginning of the movie as well? At what point in his career has Superman not been a true hero? Isn’t it ridiculous to say that it took him 10 years into his career to become a ‘true hero?’