The Avengers Guardians of the Galaxy (2014): Will tie-in with The Avengers

And everyone needs to just own up to the fact that the general audiences don't know ANY of the remaining Marvel properties, so the odds of success of ANY Marvel Studios movie henceforth will have absolutely nothing to do with how "well-known" the characters are.....because they aren't. Well-known. NONE of them....Black Panther, Ms. Marvel, Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Inhumans, The Runaways, or the Guardians of the Galaxy.

It's all a crapshoot after The Avengers.
For the most part I don't outright disagree with this thought.
Let's face it Iron Man was a gamble. Outside comic hounds he was vastly an unknown to General Audiences. Thor, if he was known at all, was a Norse god to those who stayed awake during the lectures. Honestly it's all been one big long gamble that has kept paying off for them. What helped was that they stayed true to who the characters were, brought that to the masses and they in turn bought into what Stan, Jack and company brought to life.

So the gambling man in me says...stay with a Stan Lee created or co-created character. The library still has some fascinating options of characters every bit as entertaining and unknown as IM or Thor was that are gateways to other realms and landscapes(Strange&BPanther)

There are a 1/2 dozen less riskier options that could be pulled off.
That said one has to admire that just like IM was a big risk to start Phase One of the MCU they are going risky again during Phase Two with Guardians.

Let's all just hope they continue to keep the winning streak alive.
 
Okay here's my first casting call. Ryan Kwanten as Star-Lord:
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MS has yet to deliver a turd film, not even a mediocre one imo but GOTG 2.0, with this line up has me head scratching. To me with Drax and Warlock they are more Infinity Watch 2.0 than anything, especially if Gamora shows up. GOTG are a 31st century team co-created by legendary Gene Colan and that team was a great read.

I know Major Victory/Vance has become allied with GOTG2.0 or late but he's not even on the roster Feige mentioned. You'd think having a character with lose association to Captain America would be necessary. As it relates to Avengers ties.

Still the lineup, you mean to tell me that BOTH a talking raccoon AND tree are in the lineup as main characters?? SERIOUSLY? This isn't Planet of the Apes where audiences have been tuned for talking apes. This isn't some childhood fantasy where we all wished our Teddy Bear could talk back to us. It has Howard the Duck 2.0 written all over it. Mocking of LOTR in space with Groot for God's sake.

So, while I'm going to have faith till such a time it might be necessary to not have it I had to get that off my chest.


Y forgot about the talking dog to :doh: :lmao:

Anyho,Thanos has a long history w/Drax,Warlock,Moondragon,Mar-vell,Gamora and even w/Pip the Troll. I wonder if MU/MCU is giving Jim Starlin the finger. To show they can do better w/GotG instead of the characters he made into classics. Just thinking.
 
No, no, no, no. Are the Guardians actually coming to theaters?!
 
Well, I don't know jack **** about the Guardians, but if they and the Avengers team up to fight Thanos!!!

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Future Avengers-GotG teamup movie:

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I thought he was talking about Cosmo the telepathic Russian dog of the Guardians of The Galaxy.
 
Y forgot about the talking dog to :doh: :lmao:

Anyho,Thanos has a long history w/Drax,Warlock,Moondragon,Mar-vell,Gamora and even w/Pip the Troll. I wonder if MU/MCU is giving Jim Starlin the finger. To show they can do better w/GotG instead of the characters he made into classics. Just thinking.

I don't think they're giving Starlin the finger. While I don't think we'd see any of the original GOTG in anything more than a fanboy easter egg or two, there remains the real possibility that a GOTG story arc would evolve from Starlin storylines. In fact, there remains the real possibility that Whedon himself might wind up helming this.

LA Times speculates:

So Star-Lord, Adam Warlock, Drax The Destroyer, Gamora, Groot, Vance Astro and, ahem, Rocket Racoon, could be the characters in mind for the film — along with Thanos, the mad Titan who made an appearance in “Avengers” and is a foe for the Guardians.

Why would Whedon sign up for that? He might not. But it’s intriguing to note that Whedon made the big push to put Thanos in “Avengers” and that Warlock was one of the reasons: ”For me, the greatest Avengers was ‘The Avengers’ annual that Jim Starlin did followed by the Thing ‘Two-in-One‘ that contained the death of Adam Warlock,” Whedon told Slash Film. “Those were some of the most important texts and, I think, underrated milestones in Marvel history.”
 
So Star-Lord, Adam Warlock, Drax The Destroyer, Gamora, Groot, Vance Astro and, ahem, Rocket Racoon, could be the characters in mind for the film — along with Thanos, the mad Titan who made an appearance in “Avengers” and is a foe for the Guardians.

Why would Whedon sign up for that? He might not. But it’s intriguing to note that Whedon made the big push to put Thanos in “Avengers” and that Warlock was one of the reasons: ”For me, the greatest Avengers was ‘The Avengers’ annual that Jim Starlin did followed by the Thing ‘Two-in-One‘ that contained the death of Adam Warlock,” Whedon told Slash Film. “Those were some of the most important texts and, I think, underrated milestones in Marvel history.”


Yes,I remember him saying that @SDCC and other articles that he repeated this statement. That's why I'm confuse w/MCU going w/GotG route.
 
In the '08 run the team gets their name from the original team of the 31st century (Vance Astro, anyway. Who happens to be the holder of Captain America's shield). I wouldn't be surprised if they went that route and got time travel involved. Especially considering that Adam Warlock is actually an important part of the recent version of the team and Vance Astro has been a member for almost as long.
 
The difference is John Carter was about a completely erroneous, outdated fictional interpretation of Mars, was based on books written almost a century ago, and on a series that *never* had anything more than a very small but very loyal group of niche followers....and then the movie proceeded to crap all over the beloved canon of that small but very loyal group of niche followers.

And everyone needs to just own up to the fact that the general audiences don't know ANY of the remaining Marvel properties, so the odds of success of ANY Marvel Studios movie henceforth will have absolutely nothing to do with how "well-known" the characters are.....because they aren't. Well-known. NONE of them....Black Panther, Ms. Marvel, Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Inhumans, The Runaways, or the Guardians of the Galaxy.

It's all a crapshoot after The Avengers.


I agree that subsequent characters cannot back on knowledge of the characters to push the films. I disagree it's a crapshoot.

What Marvel has done is established itself as the brand name in comic book entertainment in print and film, and like Pixar it can now use that name to establish future movies.

Who knew anything about Brave, Up, Wall-E, Finding Nemo etc. Pixar used it's reputation to promote future films. Marvel needs to do the same.
 
I agree that subsequent characters cannot back on knowledge of the characters to push the films. I disagree it's a crapshoot.

What Marvel has done is established itself as the brand name in comic book entertainment in print and film, and like Pixar it can now use that name to establish future movies.

Who knew anything about Brave, Up, Wall-E, Finding Nemo etc. Pixar used it's reputation to promote future films. Marvel needs to do the same.

I certainly agree with you there.....by crapshoot, I don't mean to imply that Marvel don't have a good betting strategy here; only that pop culture awareness is not going to factor in. Instead, Marvel is going to have to rely on the bankability of the Disney and Marvel Studios names, on marquee actors and directors, and association with the Avengers and the rest of the existing MCU.
 
What Marvel has done is established itself as the brand name in comic book entertainment in print and film, and like Pixar it can now use that name to establish future movies.


What they have going is really unique. We'll see it imitated no doubt, but they did it first and have a huge headstart.

The shared universe is the coolest thing happening right now in movies imo. So many possibilities.
 
MARVEL is still going to have to cast decently big names / popular with the mainstream actors & actresses for the characters & anything GGIish for the voice acting. This is such an out there project. They will need the popular main leads to help to sell this
 
I wonder if there gonna go with the Annihilators. I know they can't use the Silver Sufer but the rest of the team is Awesome enough! :wow: (God I just want to see Gladiator and Beta Ray Bill on Film)
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I wonder if there gonna go with the Annihilators. I know they can't use the Silver Sufer but the rest of the time is :wow: (God I just want to see Gladiator and Beta Ray Bill on Film)
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Given Annihilators didn't do particularly well in terms of reception or sales, and the fact that the team being pushed in action figures and animation is the Star-Lord team, I doubt it.
 
MARVEL is still going to have to cast decently big names / popular with the mainstream actors & actresses for the characters & anything GGIish for the voice acting. This is such an out there project. They will need the popular main leads to help to sell this

I'm sure they will. Every marvel studios film so far has at least some A-list talent.

Hopefully, Taylor Kitsch doesn't wiggle his way into this film. lol.
 
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