Hancock - Part 1

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[Hunter Rider]

http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=12184

Source: Variety
December 1, 2005



Will Smith and director Jonathan Mostow have committed to Tonight, He Comes -- a development that has Columbia Pictures eyeing a production start in Los Angeles by next summer, reports Variety.

Vince Gilligan rewrote Vincent Ngo's script. Sony Pictures Entertainment's Amy Pascal acquired the project earlier this year in a bidding battle.

Smith will play a disaffected and underappreciated superhero in a mid-life crisis. Akiva Goldsman and Michael Mann will produce with Smith and his Overbrook Entertainment partner, James Lassiter.

Smith just completed starring for Columbia with son Jaden and Thandie Newton in The Pursuit of Happyness, a Gabrielle Muccino-directed drama.

Mostow will push back two projects: Swiss Family Robinson, a film he rewrote with Sam Montgomery for Disney and Mandeville's David Hoberman and Todd Lieberman, and Terminator 4.

 

[MadVillainy]

Bringing up an old movie but I just rewatched this on TV. I guess including my theater viewing Ive seen it like 3 times now. The first hour is great (seriously I did the time) but like everyone says it falls apart after the big reveal.
Not just the tone shift, but it misses the big thing is that there is no good villain. I actually dont mind that he didnt stay a jerk the whole movie. If they at least had a good villain it wouldve been so much better.
Its still a decent movie to me

I wish the sequel would come out because it could fix alot of the problems.

 

[Eelectro 2]

i actually like hancock alot. the story and acting is really well done. what action we do get is great but it never tries to be a big action-packed good vs bad movie. even from the beginning where we see him at his trailer its sad, its a mystery film. a sequel which could introduce a real villain would be great to see because we already have seen the fall and rise of this character and its nice to have a change from the usual good vs bad taking over the world stories. im certain they could do something different with a sequel even.
i wish this and i am legend prequel would finally be made. maybe after mib3 it'll happen. hate waiting for things like this to finally come into the light when other films are made and a follow up happens immediately within 2 years.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

I did a total 180 on this film. I first saw it on DVD and, apparently, it was the Unrated cut. I was underwhelmed; I found a lot of the comedy to simply not work. I HATED the scene where Hancock, err...gets excited.

A couple of months ago I caught it again on TV, and I've watched it like, three times since. The original, theatrical cut is so much better. A lot of the sillier stuff (including the aforementioned moment) was put back into the "unrated" DVD, and IMO, hurt the film.

The theatrical cut is a fun film. It has some problems, but it's got a really unique mythology behind it (stuff I'd like explored further in a sequel) and another solid performance from Will Smith. Smith is just constantly reliable, even in films that are otherwise mediocre or even downright terrible.

INCREDIBLE score by John Powell. I love the main heroic theme. The final scene of Hancock in full hero mode, soaring through the city really makes me want another one.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Biggest nose dive I've seen from Great movie to mediocre one I've ever seen in life. One the twist is revealed, the movie falls apart epically.

 

[MadVillainy]

I agree Parker

THe original screenplay is so much worse though

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

Yeah, the movie is so much better up until that reveal, it is not a bad twist per se, it's just that that's all the movie is about until the ending with the crooks in the hospital. The big sfx showdown between Hancock and Theron is just so, 'who cares', as it's not a super-hero villan showdown. The first time I saw the movie, I was expecting her to be revealed as a super-villan actually.
But there are a couple of really good scenes in that part of the movie, the scene in the off-license and the ending at the hospital are as good as the opening hour, so I don't feel totally depressed that the movie takes that turn, and it has a strong ending worthy of the beginning.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I personally really enjoyed Hancock, yes, the 1st hour of the movie is the best but I dont mind the rest either, I hope we get to see the sequel soon as there is a lot of mythology they could go into.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I agree Parker

THe original screenplay is so much worse though

That's what happens when you have so many ego's messing with the script. It was rewritten 3 times, all with different tones and ideas in mind.

Yeah, the movie is so much better up until that reveal, it is not a bad twist per se, it's just that that's all the movie is about until the ending with the crooks in the hospital. The big sfx showdown between Hancock and Theron is just so, 'who cares', as it's not a super-hero villan showdown. The first time I saw the movie, I was expecting her to be revealed as a super-villan actually.
But there are a couple of really good scenes in that part of the movie, the scene in the off-license and the ending at the hospital are as good as the opening hour, so I don't feel totally depressed that the movie takes that turn, and it has a strong ending worthy of the beginning.

No, it is. The twist pretty much derailed and ruined the movie. It's as if they had no idea what to do after he redeemed himself. It's as if they looked at the run time, saw they still had another 50 min. to an hour of story left, and wrote this out of desperation.

 

[Thebumwhowalks]

No, it is. The twist pretty much derailed and ruined the movie. It's as if they had no idea what to do after he redeemed himself. It's as if they looked at the run time, saw they still had another 50 min. to an hour of story left, and wrote this out of desperation.

What I meant by 'not a bad twist per se' is that as an idea, it was not bad at all, it could have introduced an interesting dynamic between Hancock and his friend/agent, but it is not that well executed, and the whole movie hinges on it in the last act. It would have been better if it had been just part of a larger plot and more ambitious movie, one with a super-villan as folk have been saying.
I quite liked the guy who played the bank robber though, he did play a good villan, but yeah, the movie needed a super-villan.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I forgot all about that horrible original title.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Tonight, He comes

 

[Rez]

I never read the original scripts or anything, but I remember reading several fairly detailed plot summaries which suggested that Theron falls for Hancock, cheats on her husband, and a love triangle took up the second half of the film. I thought that would have been amazing. This guy, who took Hancock under his wing and saved him, was now faced with the fact that his wife was in love with someone that was so much more special, and could do so many things that he couldn't. And then, somewhere, somehow, through the miracle of hopefully great writing, she winds up coming back to him and they have to move on with their lives, dealing with and getting past the fact that she was a cheating ****e, while he and Hancock repair their damaged friendship.

Given what actually happens in the film, it's pretty obvious what this turned into.. but I would have loved it so much more had Hancock been the only "special" person in the film.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I never read the original scripts or anything, but I remember reading several fairly detailed plot summaries which suggested that Theron falls for Hancock, cheats on her husband, and a love triangle took up the second half of the film. I thought that would have been amazing. This guy, who took Hancock under his wing and saved him, was now faced with the fact that his wife was in love with someone that was so much more special, and could do so many things that he couldn't. And then, somewhere, somehow, through the miracle of hopefully great writing, she winds up coming back to him and they have to move on with their lives, dealing with and getting past the fact that she was a cheating ****e, while he and Hancock repair their damaged friendship.

Given what actually happens in the film, it's pretty obvious what this turned into.. but I would have loved it so much more had Hancock been the only "special" person in the film.

I remember that too. That's what was in all the plot synopsis leading up to the film; that she would be cheating on her husband with Hancock and everything like that.

 

[Angry Monkey]

Tonight, He comes

I laughed too.... t:


LOL sexual innuendo

Smith will play a disaffected and underappreciated superhero in a mid-life crisis. Akiva Goldsman and Michael Mann will produce with Smith and his Overbrook Entertainment partner, James Lassiter.

Hancock has in his midlife?

I was guessing he was like 30 or something...

 

[MadVillainy]

I never read the original scripts or anything, but I remember reading several fairly detailed plot summaries which suggested that Theron falls for Hancock, cheats on her husband, and a love triangle took up the second half of the film. I thought that would have been amazing. This guy, who took Hancock under his wing and saved him, was now faced with the fact that his wife was in love with someone that was so much more special, and could do so many things that he couldn't. And then, somewhere, somehow, through the miracle of hopefully great writing, she winds up coming back to him and they have to move on with their lives, dealing with and getting past the fact that she was a cheating ****e, while he and Hancock repair their damaged friendship.

Given what actually happens in the film, it's pretty obvious what this turned into.. but I would have loved it so much more had Hancock been the only "special" person in the film.

Maybe the script was like that at one point. I too remember that being the plot summary.
But the version I read was that Hancock fell in love with her and:

Spoiler

-In the climax kidnaps her and holds her hostage
-To go with that Bateman's character and his son are un masculine pushovers that get beat up and bullied alot and for some reason Bateman's character is afraid to have sex with his wife
-Bateman's family is actually poorer. Not as sexy
-Hancock stalks although its not that dark, who would be Theron's character in a scene
-Hancock accidently kills some lowly hood
-And there is a scene that Hancock gets up in the middle of sex with a women, goes to the bathroom, and jerks off ferociously and his "money shot" blows through a wall. Kinda like the deleted scene except its played in all seriousness
-The ending of the story is weird. After accidently almost killing Theron's character he tries to kill himself by gun (of course it doesnt work) and then it flashes forward and the final scene is Batmen and Theron's character having sex...no explanation of what happened to Hancock

Also it wasnt even written that well. Every other line of dialogue was a monologue

I',m glad they turned it into a comedy and changed it around a bit. While the final product was meh it's alot better than the Tonight, He Comes script