The Dark Knight Harvey Dent/Two Face Thread

[Mastodon123]

I know a lot of people think this but I am still not convinced that

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Dent is scarred when the warehouse explodes.

After he is scarred he goes after Wuertz and Maroni, and possibly others. Why would he does this if they don't have a role in his scarring. Also, Maroni's trial is in the movie, I am not saying where he gets scarred (even though I still think its possible.)

I've tried telling others this too.

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If he did get scared in the warehouse, wouldn't he have blamed Batman instead. Also theres a scene in one of the trailers where Dent is talking negatively about the Batman during a speech, unscared, possibly blaming Batman for Rachels death.

What would be the point of killing the cop and Maroni if he got scared in the warehouse? Its oblivous that the cop brings in acid during the trial so Maroni could scar him.

 

[bkey]

I've tried telling others this too.

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If he did get scared in the warehouse, wouldn't he have blamed Batman instead. Also theres a scene in one of the trailers where Dent is talking negatively about the Batman during a speech, unscared, possibly blaming Batman for Rachels death.

What would be the point of killing the cop and Maroni if he got scared in the warehouse? Its oblivous that the cop brings in acid during the trial so Maroni could scar him.

Thats what I think too.

 

[bkey]

Aaron L. W. please just tell me yourself what you want...i deserve to hear it from you. i deserve to know why, please you owe me.

 

[ActuallyRobin]

I'm just as confused as you are.

 

[omid17]

than why does

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Two-Face do the head or tails thing when he's in the car with him? i guess it landed on heads so he was lucky, but i heard he flipped the coin again but it was for the driver and it landed on tails, than he kills the driver

 

[The Joker]

...and then they had him robbing banks or holding the city hostage for money for no reason, and is even seen playing poker with The Joker, Killer Croc, and Poison Ivy .

Don't forget The Penguin. He was at the poker game, too. And Killer Croc was not

All the more reason why Two-Face doesn't really work as a villain and more as a vigilante.

The Long Halloween and BTAS both set him up that way. But then in his follow up stories he seems to have somehow lost any kind of morality, no matter how twisted. He's just a straight up villain.

 

[Rikxiepoo]

Don't forget The Penguin. He was at the poker game, too. And Killer Croc was not

Umm... what Batman: The Animated Series did you watch. Penguin was not at the poker game, and Croc was. Its the episode where Batman is undercover posing as Croc and then at the end every1 at the bar (undercover police) took out their guns and pointed them at the villains.

 

[DSET]

penguin was there

 

[The Joker]

Umm... what Batman: The Animated Series did you watch. Penguin was not at the poker game

I watched Batman: The Animated Series. Don't know what one you watched, though:

and Croc was.Its the episode where Batman is undercover posing as Croc

Exactly! So Croc wasn't really there, was he. It was Batman.

 

[laudanum09]

I watched Batman: The Animated Series. Don't know what one you watched, though:
Exactly! So Croc wasn't really there, was he. It was Batman.

hah technically he was right! my friend went on vacation and left me all four box sets so I've got a busy couple weeks on my hands. enough to keep me entertained for an excruciating 13 days. this episode is up next, i remember watching it as a kid and seeing all my favorite rogues in the same episode.

 

[laudanum09]

I do not care at all how Harvey Dent is scarred, whether someone tosses acid on his face, he's set on fire, or some other sort of accident occurs. I don't care about Dent's fate at the end of the movie, whether he lives, dies, or if it's ambiguous. What I do care about is how the character is portrayed, and whether he is an actual presence in the film or just thrown in there to please fanboys (ala Eddie Brock/ Venom). This is a movie on it's own, and I plan to judge it as a movie, not as an adaptation of the comics. I want to see Two-Face done with cinematic justice (much like the Joker), and if an origin change and death is necessary to do that on film, then so be it.

I'm in complete agreement with this. I have avoided finding out the exact details of his scarring, but just look at TAS, that two-face origin story was really intense for a kids show. It really showed how f-ed up dent was to begin with. it strayed from the courtroom 'canon' origin, but it ended up being extremely powerful and well done. My only beef is that...well I thought he looked like play-dough or taffy-fish-face. the perfect split always kind of bugged me as well...but if an explosion or something besides the court scene is in Nolan's hands, I trust it to be awesome.


PS

does anybody know if that rumored montage with criminals being rounded up is in the film?

 

[protocida]

How i've heard:

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Harvey sends Maroni on trial. Before the judgment, A dirt cop (The one of the ''Half dead'' scene) passes Maroni acid and he throws it on Dent's face when the trial begins. Dent goes to hospital, but runs away and get's revenge on those envolved on his scarring.

AND HE WILL NOT DIE!

 

[Spade]

That's been disproven multiple times by people who have seen the film.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Umm... what Batman: The Animated Series did you watch. Penguin was not at the poker game, and Croc was. Its the episode where Batman is undercover posing as Croc and then at the end every1 at the bar (undercover police) took out their guns and pointed them at the villains.

The episode is called "Almost Got 'Im "

Villains present

1.The Joker
2.Two-Face
3.The Penguin
4. Poison Ivy
5. Killer Croc - aka Batman in disguise

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[The Caped Knight]

I wonder if in TDK movie if Two-Face will have a double gun like the animated Two-Face did in BTAS .

 

[Rezzo]

I wonder if in TDK movie if Two-Face will have a double gun like the animated Two-Face did in BTAS .

Seems more than likely that he'll only have one.

 

[laudanum09]

this just in from salacious at the merch thread.

a front shot of the two-face action figure:

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[ABleedingCorpse]

I loved that episode of TAS. Everyone has a great story to tell about how they almost got Batman except Killer Croc. "Ya see, one time I had the Batman cornered right and I threw a rock at him!!!!!" *blink* lol. Too hilarious.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

this just in from salacious at the merch thread.

a front shot of the two-face action figure:

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What's up with that??

 

[Spade]

Is that Two-Face figure packaged with a Batman figure as well? That tagline at the bottom doesn't make much sense as it stands. Neither does the pic in the corner, for that matter.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

I just noticed the little detial on the bottom of the figure. "fire". lol. That whole package makes no sense. Is Batman really Two-Face all along or what? I know I'm just joking around, it's just a rushed package. Or I think it is....

 

[Sub-Zero]

what i don't get is how anyone from these boards could've seen the movie already? are all these people part of the press, or did they all work on the movie? i say no. some may have but the amount of people that claim they know anything has me saying shenanigans on all of it.

 

[laudanum09]

I just noticed the little detial on the bottom of the figure. "fire". lol. That whole package makes no sense. Is Batman really Two-Face all along or what? I know I'm just joking around, it's just a rushed package. Or I think it is....

everyone is debating it over at the merch boards. I think this figure is totally legit but the packaging is just half-assed. Some moron just threw it together for press-pics, I highly doubt they would release hundreds of figures for sale for a two-face toy with a batman picture on it. but considering the atrocious debacle that was the mattel movie masters situation, i wouldnt put it past them.

my argument for this is that why would this be a kids line figure if they wouldnt even have a few scars for a ledger figure. i would also be saddened if they left the two-face figure to the kiddie line, but then again they havent done that for the scarecrow. the movie masters is basically the kids line without all of the bazookas and ridiculous getup.

 

[Spade]

Moriarty from AICN posts here. He's mentioned the ending and confirmed most of the spoilers on the AICN talkback system. He'd have no reason to lie, and there's no disclosure issue that would require him to lie.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

what i don't get is how anyone from these boards could've seen the movie already? are all these people part of the press, or did they all work on the movie? i say no. some may have but the amount of people that claim they know anything has me saying shenanigans on all of it.

Umm...I don't think the people on the boards have seen the film. The Press have, and they've ratted out the spoilers and detials in the media...which of course people on the board read. Where it goes from there is up in the air as some people only believe with their own eyes in what will really happen and some accept that reviewers of the film are serious.

I don't claim to know the truth about everything in the film, but there are things I can pull from what I've seen and piece it together myself. It itsn't rocket science.