The Dark Knight Harvey Dent/Two Face Thread

[Rory Gets Paid]

So since my Harvey "death" speculation thread got deleted for having an opinion outside the consensus, I'll comment here. Does anyone have a link to a review or credible thread or anywhere proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Harvey "funeral" scene doesn't happen before the bar room scene? I just can't will myself to believe what something says without seeing it for myself...you all understand don't you?

(Countdown till someone says I'm in denial...5...4...3...come on, honestly)

 

[inflames]

So since my Harvey "death" speculation thread got deleted for having an opinion outside the consensus, I'll comment here. Does anyone have a link to a review or credible thread or anywhere proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Harvey "funeral" scene doesn't happen before the bar room scene? I just can't will myself to believe what something says without seeing it for myself...you all understand don't you?

(Countdown till someone says I'm in denial...5...4...3...come on, honestly)

your just being an ass honestly you just refuse to accept the truth.

 

[Rory Gets Paid]

your just being an ass honestly you just refuse to accept the truth.

Honestly, though...did I call it, or did i call it? lol Can't I just get a straight answer, sans-flame? lol Anybody?

Edit: inflames, disregard above post if you were being sarcastic lol

Edit: or ironic, seeing as though your name is what it is lol

 

[Spider Edge]

hmmm.....this is certainly news to me......I was fully expecting Harvey Dent / Two-Face to be the prime focus / villain of the 3rd film........

I'm not sure I like this news.......[BLACKOUT]seems kind of a waste of character?[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Rory Gets Paid]

hmmm.....this is certainly news to me......I was fully expecting Harvey Dent / Two-Face to be the prime focus / villain of the 3rd film........

I'm not sure I like this news.......[blackout]seems kind of a waste of character?[/blackout]

My thoughts as well...which is why I wanted to try to encourage a bit of intelligent debate regarding said "death" and subsequent funeral.

 

[Boom]

So since my Harvey "death" speculation thread got deleted for having an opinion outside the consensus, I'll comment here. Does anyone have a link to a review or credible thread or anywhere proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Harvey "funeral" scene doesn't happen before the bar room scene? I just can't will myself to believe what something says without seeing it for myself...you all understand don't you?

(Countdown till someone says I'm in denial...5...4...3...come on, honestly)

Spoiler

Devin (Chud.Com): To the Two-Face question: He dies at the end.
http://chud.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109450&page=3

Moriarty, (AICN.Com): Let me state this clearly: Two-Face dies. It happens on-camera. We see his body. We see his funeral. And his death changes everything for Gotham and Batman, and the end of the film... in fact, the TITLE of the film... hinges on Harvey's death and the subsequent cover-up of the truth about it.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=15157370#post15157370

Moriarty, (AICN.Com): But that's where you're wrong. He's not set up to be the key focus of a third film. Harvey's rise and fall is almost ENTIRELY the focus of this movie. Harvey's heroism is what keeps Bruce focused as Batman. Harvey's integrity is what makes the Joker so crazy and determined to destroy him. And Harvey's eventual destruction is what turns Gotham against Batman, possibly forever.

This is the film about Harvey Dent and Two-Face. There's no set-up for the next movie involved. You get it all here.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=15161775#post15161775

 

[Rory Gets Paid]

apologies...double post.

 

[inflames]

My thoughts as well...which is why I wanted to try to encourage a bit of intelligent debate regarding said "death" and subsequent funeral.

it's not intelligent debating, your going to be one that even after seeing the movie will say 'i know he has still gotta be alive!!1!!'

 

[Rory Gets Paid]

oops! Triple...sorry lol

 

[Rory Gets Paid]

it's not intelligent debating, your going to be one that even after seeing the movie will say 'i know he has still gotta be alive!!1!!'

Wow, you just have me all figured out, now dontcha? lol

 

[turtlefocker]

anyone still in denial about this is ****ing ******ed. Sorry but this is absurd. It's like claiming that the year is actually 1947 and were part of a government test to see how people will hand the internet. Our whole life is fake.

 

[Spider Edge]

so.....[BLACKOUT]is two-face an actual villain in this movie?[/BLACKOUT]

I'm just surprised by this.......Dent/Two-face is such a major Batman villain....I'd think that he'd deserve his own movie.

Just as Joker is such a major villain that he deserves his own movie.

Now, though, it seems the Two-face is [BLACKOUT]getting the "venom treatment"....thrown in their for fan service but then killed off fairly quickly without any much development......[/BLACKOUT]

this is just.......wow........

 

[inflames]

so.....[blackout]is two-face an actual villain in this movie?[/blackout]

I'm just surprised by this.......Dent/Two-face is such a major Batman villain....I'd think that he'd deserve his own movie.

Just as Joker is such a major villain that he deserves his own movie.

Now, though, it seems the Two-face is [blackout]getting the "venom treatment"....thrown in their for fan service but then killed off fairly quickly without any much development......[/blackout]

this is just.......wow........

He isn't a villain in nolans world

 

[turtlefocker]

He is not getting the venom treatment

 

[Ecstasy]

But the general public would comprehend it as the 'venom treatment.'


Don't say the public wouldn't think that.

 

[Rory Gets Paid]

anyone still in denial about this is ****ing ******ed. Sorry but this is absurd. It's like claiming that the year is actually 1947 and were part of a government test to see how people will hand the internet. Our whole life is fake.

Wow.

 

[turtlefocker]

The public will not think that. He has over three times the amount of screen time has face that Eddie had as venom.

 

[turtlefocker]

Wow.

Saying Two-Face doesn't [BLACKOUT]DIE[/BLACKOUT] in this movie is a ****ing absurd statement at this point

 

[Anita18]

so.....[BLACKOUT]is two-face an actual villain in this movie?[/BLACKOUT]

I'm just surprised by this.......Dent/Two-face is such a major Batman villain....I'd think that he'd deserve his own movie.

Just as Joker is such a major villain that he deserves his own movie.

Now, though, it seems the Two-face is [BLACKOUT]getting the "venom treatment"....thrown in their for fan service but then killed off fairly quickly without any much development......[/BLACKOUT]

this is just.......wow........

I will keep on repeating this cause I think it's a fun thing to say:

The only people who have a problem with it are people who have not seen the film yet.

 

[Rory Gets Paid]

Spoiler

Devin (Chud.Com): To the Two-Face question: He dies at the end.
http://chud.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109450&page=3

Moriarty, (AICN.Com): Let me state this clearly: Two-Face dies. It happens on-camera. We see his body. We see his funeral. And his death changes everything for Gotham and Batman, and the end of the film... in fact, the TITLE of the film... hinges on Harvey's death and the subsequent cover-up of the truth about it.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=15157370#post15157370

Moriarty, (AICN.Com): But that's where you're wrong. He's not set up to be the key focus of a third film. Harvey's rise and fall is almost ENTIRELY the focus of this movie. Harvey's heroism is what keeps Bruce focused as Batman. Harvey's integrity is what makes the Joker so crazy and determined to destroy him. And Harvey's eventual destruction is what turns Gotham against Batman, possibly forever.

This is the film about Harvey Dent and Two-Face. There's no set-up for the next movie involved. You get it all here.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=15161775#post15161775

Yeah...read the links, and I'm still not convinced that anyone can confirm anything. I'll apologize to every member of this site if Harvey AND Two-Face are both (beyond a shadow of a bat, er... I mean doubt) dead by the end of this film. But let it be known that I expect the same in the event the opposite occurs. Cheers!

 

[Spider Edge]

well....Two-face IS a Batman villain......and a very personal villain at that....given Dent's and Wayne's prior relationship/allegiance......[BLACKOUT]which I was expecting this movie to be setting up.....[/BLACKOUT]

so.....[BLACKOUT]even with Dent/Two-face "dying" in this movie.....is it possible that maybe he just faked his death or didn't really die.....and that he could return in the 3rd movie as a more crazy two-face?[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Boom]

But the general public would comprehend it as the 'venom treatment.'


Don't say the public wouldn't think that.

That depends. Is the character of Harvey Dent and Two-Face handled like ****? Is Dent a character that was just tacked onto the film last minute and provides nothing important to the story?

If yes, then sure, people would compare him to Venom. However, all signs indicate the opposite.

 

[The Batman]

lmao....I cant believe how flat out stupid people are being over this...

 

[Tally Man]

When I heard about this I keep thinking of the scene from Batman: Dark Victory involving Dent. For some reason this is something I'd expect Nolan to pull.

 

[Rory Gets Paid]

lmao....I cant believe how flat out stupid people are being over this...

And I can't believe how flat-out rude, ignorant and immature some people are being over this. I mean, what gives? Seriously?