The Dark Knight Harvey Dent/Two Face Thread

Yeah I know. I realize I'm starting to lose any legs to stand on in this debate as more information becomes available, but its posts like those that give me hope that it's just... I dunno. Anyway, I just thought I'd share some of that with you.

At least I didn't think of it.
 
well, from what I've read of the plot points......the way Dent/Two-Face is portrayed sounds gound....even if it's not what I had originally envisioned......

It does bring up the question though.......who would be the main villain for the 3rd film?

I definitely don't think it's [BLACKOUT]Clayface......[/BLACKOUT]
 
HarveyTwoFace said:
Also, don't listen to anything anyone says in the AICN talkbacks. Above, in the post about Duffer's review (http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=15140989&postcount=1577), it mentions a "early review" that has people mentioning
Two-Face's death
in the talkbacks. Well, here it is, look for "That 70s Venom" for the post and be warned, it has some "spoilers." http://www.aintitcool.com/talkback_display/37214#comment_2134209

There you have it:
Three major character die and Clayface is the villain in the next Batman movie. Yay for realism!
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if these are true, im diggin it!
 
I'll just point out that the description of
Clayface
is dragged directly from Batman: The Animated Series. Also, if the Penguin is too odd for Nolan's vision (which he has said he is) then I think this would be too.
 
If the rumor about
Two-Face's death is true, I don't like it. I'm tired of EVERY superhero movie killing off the villain.
 
samsnee said:
If the rumor about
Two-Face's death is true, I don't like it. I'm tired of EVERY superhero movie killing off the villain.
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u know what would be cool?

if after his funeral, we see batman opening the coffin

and there is no one inside

... :)
 
ok, read through those links.......some of that stuff sounds WAY OUT THERE.......I really don't know what to believe now..........

man......just 2 more weeks.........
 
HarveyTwoFace said:
I'll just point out that the description of
Clayface
is dragged directly from Batman: The Animated Series. Also, if the Penguin is too odd for Nolan's vision (which he has said he is) then I think this would be too.
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You don't honestly believe that do you? :dry:
 
bkey said:
Thats competely false. Nothing in that post is true. I'm not even sure the poster was trying to be serious.
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When you say the poster, do you mean me or the guy who posted that Talkback? If you mean that guy, that's pretty much the description I've heard from other people as well. I'm not joking, I swear I'm just trying to show you the kinds of things I've seen.

Most people say that Dent takes Gordon's family hostage because Dent blames Gordon for Rachel Dawes' death. While fighting for his family, supposedly Gordon shoots Dent several times and he somehow falls to his death. Or something stupid like that. And like I said, I've heard that Batman supposedly slits the Joker's throat. I call shenanigans, but whatever.

And to Venom, I do believe that the talkback poster's description of the said character is from Batman the Animated Series. I have the DVD with the episodes featuring him on it. And about the Penguin thing, I do believe Nolan thinks the Penguin is too out there for him. I didn't say I agreed. This was back when people thought Philip Seymour Hoffman was going to play "a British Arms dealer" by the name of the Penguin. He likely was thinking along the lines of the Animated Series and Batman Returns Penguin, when he's pretty mutated and acts like a bird, not the more recent version where he's just a mob-type character with a penchant for fabulous fowls. And yes, I went there.
 
two face youre just trying to throw everyone off
come off it
plz ignore him people

Clayface is not set up for p3

and the ending you suggest is false regarding:::wow:(dont read if you dont wanna be spoiled)
joker he ends up in jail
 
HarveyTwoFace said:
When you say the poster, do you mean me or the guy who posted that Talkback? If you mean that guy, that's pretty much the description I've heard from other people as well. I'm not joking, I swear I'm just trying to show you the kinds of things I've seen.
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I'm talking about this:
***WARNING. I AM WARNING YOU RIGHT ****ING NOW. DO NOT READ BELOW THIS IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE DARK KNIGHT SPOILED FOR YOU. THIS IS SERIOUS ****.*** Rachel Dawes dies. The Joker dies. Two-Face dies. Batman and Alfred cry like babies while hugging each other. Jim Gordon kills Two-Face. Batman kills The Joker after The Joker learns his identity and threatens Alfred's life. The Joker drops Rachel Dawes out of a window but she only breaks one leg and both arms but then the Joker stabs her in the heart (literally) later right in front of Batman. Bat Girl is introduced (sort of, it's actually Barbara Gordon, Jim's daughter, but no mention of Bat Girl really). Clayface is introduced at the very end of the film in a very strange way so he will probably be the main villain in the 3rd film. There is an actor on TV who has a "bizarre skin reaction" to a cosmetic skin cream which made his hands "like melted caramel" according to a doctor's report. That's about it, folks. The movie ****in rocked. If you can see it in IMAX, THEN GO ****ING SEE IT IN IMAX!!! THE ACTION SCENES ARE ****ING BRILLIANT!!! Best movie of the year by far.

I put it in spoiler tags to not piss anyone off, but 99% of it is fake. There is no Clayface intro, and no Killer Croc cameo. The Barbara Gordon in the movie is Jim Gordon's wife, not daughter (and she doesn't become Bat Girl.) The shananigans about Batman killing Joker isn't true either, same goes for [BLACKOUT]Joker stabbing Rachel in front of Batman. Thats definitely not happening.[/BLACKOUT].
 
This is for HarveyTwoFace, Bkey and anyone else who wants to know the truth

_

Alright this is how it goes down, all of it:

Rachel and Harvey are kidnapped.

Joker gives Batman there addresses

Batman goes to save Rachel. Gordon goes to save Harvey.

When Batman gets to where Rachel is he finds Harvey. There is an explosion and Harvey is scarred.

Gordon shows up where Dent is supposed to be late, there is an explosion and Rachel dies.

Two-Face blames Dent for the death of Rachel so he take his family hostage.

Batman shows up and Two-Face is killed (Not by Batman)

Joker does NOT die in TDK – he is arrested at the end

Two-Face is dead. All the way Dead.

Batman takes credit for the people two-face killed (the guy in the bar etc. - which happens before two-face's 'actual' death) so the the image of Harvey Dent is not ruined.

Batman goes on the run.

^<That in there is fact
 
turtlefocker said:
This is for HarveyTwoFace, Bkey and anyone else who wants to know the truth

_

Alright this is how it goes down, all of it:

Rachel and Harvey are kidnapped.

Joker gives Batman there addresses

Batman goes to save Rachel. Gordon goes to save Harvey.

When Batman gets to where Rachel is he finds Harvey. There is an explosion and Harvey is scarred.

Gordon shows up where Dent is supposed to be late, there is an explosion and Rachel dies.

Two-Face blames Dent for the death of Rachel so he take his family hostage.

Batman shows up and Two-Face is killed (Not by Batman)

Joker does NOT die in TDK – he is arrested at the end

Two-Face is dead. All the way Dead.

Batman takes credit for the people two-face killed (the guy in the bar etc. - which happens before two-face's 'actual' death) so the the image of Harvey Dent is not ruined.

Batman goes on the run.

^<That in there is fact
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Thats pretty much what I thought. Is the part about Dent's scarring definite?
 
You're right DSet, I could be trying to throw a wrench into everything. See how easily a rumor is spread? Now, thank you Turle-man, for the information. Now would you mind please telling me where you found all this out? Is that from one source or a amalgam of multiple sources? No offense, truly none is meant, but unsourced information like that kind of gets under my skin. I understand that not everything I've said has been unsourced, but everything that is essential to this debate has been, I certainly hope. Anyhow, source if you please?
 
HarveyTwoFace said:
You're right DSet, I could be trying to throw a wrench into everything. See how easily a rumor is spread? Now, thank you Turle-man, for the information. Now would you mind please telling me where you found all this out? Is that from one source or a amalgam of multiple sources? No offense, truly none is meant, but unsourced information like that kind of gets under my skin. I understand that not everything I've said has been unsourced, but everything that is essential to this debate has been, I certainly hope. Anyhow, source if you please?
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I have seen most of that from several different sources, but I don't remember any of the links. I definitely would post them if I remembered. Badtaste.it had most of it right back in March, but most people thought it was fake back then. http://www.badtaste.it/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2690&Itemid=82

Also, Turtlefocker is, IMO, one of the most reliable posters when it comes to info on SHH, so I trust him, especially since I and several other users have seen most of that info in previous reviews.
 
Okay, that's fine. Don't mistake me when I ask for sources for doubting the poster's intentions. I only do that when someone says something utterly ridiculous. Honestly, I am okay with the ending as described by Turtle. I just want to know where he got it so I can be absolutely sure. Even though, I don't know why Badtaste would have the entire movie plot (which is what that is, as soon as I saw that I didn't read it. I already know enough).

But, thanks for it all the same.
 
HarveyTwoFace said:
Okay, that's fine. Don't mistake me when I ask for sources for doubting the poster's intentions. I only do that when someone says something utterly ridiculous. Honestly, I am okay with the ending as described by Turtle. I just want to know where he got it so I can be absolutely sure. Even though, I don't know why Badtaste would have the entire movie plot (which is what that is, as soon as I saw that I didn't read it. I already know enough).

But, thanks for it all the same.
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Oh I completely understand. I like to know where info comes from too, and to make sure it is legit before believing it.



Off topic kinda, but I am still curious about Maroni's trial. The scene is described in the casting sides, and it seems like most of the sides are pretty accurate so far. I was told that the scene is in the movie, and is "chaotic" but if its not when Dent is scarred what else could happen there.
 
bkey, i really hoped you were right about the scarring. i really hate that its probably not in the courtroom. i'm sure the movie will be great despite that but i'm a little disappointed right now :(
 
Sub-Zero said:
bkey, i really hoped you were right about the scarring. i really hate that its probably not in the courtroom. i'm sure the movie will be great despite that but i'm a little disappointed right now :(
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My source about Maroni's trial is reliable, I mean he was in the scene, he just never said what happened in the scene, just that it takes place. I just put two and two together I guess, with what I was told along with the casting sides and what Eckhart said.
 
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