The Dark Knight Harvey Dent/Two Face Thread

[SonikDeath]

Ive never been a fan of harvey dent or two face, hopefully eckhart changes that.

 

[HarveyTwoFace]

Two-Face has always been a fantastic character to me. He's underused in the comics though, and it's kind of sad for me at least. He's best used when he's a stark reminder of someone Batman failed to save. Just think, every time Dent kills someone for whatever reason, Batman thinks, "That man used to be my friend."

But anyway Bkey, I'm not too sure... but those are the things I was expecting to see discussed when I first got here :P

 

[Ama Zing]

bkey, i really hoped you were right about the scarring. i really hate that its probably not in the courtroom. i'm sure the movie will be great despite that but i'm a little disappointed right now

I'm mostly indifferent to where it actually takes place, so long at the scene itself is great a relavant. I liked the TAS way because it gave Dent a bit of a vendetta against Batman that TLH didn't.

 

[Sub-Zero]

I'm mostly indifferent to where it actually takes place, so long at the scene itself is great a relavant. I liked the TAS way because it gave Dent a bit of a vendetta against Batman that TLH didn't.

well, batman didn't do anything to dent in TAS. it wasn't premeditated. it was an accident, and two-face blamed thorne, batman was just in the way of two-face getting to thorne. you can make batman feel responsible for not being able to save him, but you can't really say that two-face has a vendetta against a man that didn't cause what happened to him.

i never saw two-face as being around as a villain because of batman; that's what the joker is for. i see two-face as a vigilante on the verge of becoming a hardcore villain. before the scarring he did what batman does but by using the law in his favor. him, gordon, and batman got rid of all the mobs in gotham. i think the movie is doing this too. after he's scarred he goes after the people responsible. it was never batman, it was the mob and all of the people that gave him up to the mob.

having the joker be responsible for the scarring makes no sense to me. sure he's chaotic but it's against batman, anyone else in the way would just be killed. it also makes maroni's role less important. ok he's the new head of the falcone crime family, but how is that a big deal? he plays a major factor in dent's comic origin. having him in the movie and not having him become responsible for scarring dent makes him very unimportant to the story.

 

[SingItWithMeNow]

so when's the two-face action figure coming out?

 

[raxor]

so when's the two-face action figure coming out?

i doubt they'll have a two face action figure out.. i mean the movie was centered more on harvey dent than two face..

 

[Joe Kerr]

i doubt they'll have a two face action figure out.. i mean the movie was centered more on harvey dent than two face..

yeah, except for the Photos of it.

 

[Venom 1988]

lol

 

[raxor]

In one of the reviews i read that harvey dents face looked like sizzling bacon.. imagine you had some food chain selling bacon with harvey as its mascot..

 

[Batteen87]

I'm mostly indifferent to where it actually takes place, so long at the scene itself is great a relavant. I liked the TAS way because it gave Dent a bit of a vendetta against Batman that TLH didn't.

See I don't like that, I like to think of Dent and Batman as friends who don't always see eye to eye. They both want justice, but Harvey is willing to go over the line and Batman's not. It's really Batman's one rule that separates the two. I've always preferred Dent as a vigilante rather than a normal criminal​

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[raxor]

See I don't like that, I like to think of Dent and Batman as friends who don't always see eye to eye. They both want justice, but Harvey is willing to go over the line and Batman's not. It's really Batman's one rule that separates the two. I've always preferred Dent as a vigilante rather than a normal criminal​

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It wouldn't be bad to have a third film where dent turns out to be a villain in the beginning and later ends up helping batman..

 

[Batteen87]

It wouldn't be bad to have a third film where dent turns out to be a villain in the beginning and later ends up helping batman..

That would be incredibly awesome.

 

[raxor]

We can trust chris nolan to cook up something good...

 

[Mastodon123]

This is for HarveyTwoFace, Bkey and anyone else who wants to know the truth

_

Alright this is how it goes down, all of it:

Spoiler

Rachel and Harvey are kidnapped.

Joker gives Batman there addresses

Batman goes to save Rachel. Gordon goes to save Harvey.

When Batman gets to where Rachel is he finds Harvey. There is an explosion and Harvey is scarred.

Gordon shows up where Dent is supposed to be late, there is an explosion and Rachel dies.

Two-Face blames Dent for the death of Rachel so he take his family hostage.

Batman shows up and Two-Face is killed (Not by Batman)

Joker does NOT die in TDK – he is arrested at the end

Two-Face is dead. All the way Dead.

Batman takes credit for the people two-face killed (the guy in the bar etc. - which happens before two-face's 'actual' death) so the the image of Harvey Dent is not ruined.

Batman goes on the run.

^<That in there is fact

Spoiler

Dent escapes unscathed from the warehouse explosion. He really gets burnt during the trial. The cop he killed in the bar brought in the gasoline, or acid into the courthouse. Thats why he has an vendetta with him.

 

[Venom 1988]

It wouldn't be bad to have a third film where dent turns out to be a villain in the beginning and later ends up helping batman..

That would be incredibly awesome.

Spoiler

Dent escapes unscathed from the warehouse explosion. He really gets burnt during the trial. The cop he killed in the bar brought in the gasoline, or acid into the courthouse. Thats why he has an vendetta with him.

Wrongo

 

[Yurka]

yeah, except for the Photos of it.

lol I love you Joe.
Where have you been man???

 

[Batteen87]

Wrongo

You might be right, but I'm not going to believe it until I see it with my own eyes.

 

[raxor]

You might be right, but I'm not going to believe it until I see it with my own eyes.

Same here.. I've already got different stories running in my mind right now...

 

[Majik1387]

I hope these spoilers about

Spoiler

Dent/Two-Face dying

are not true at all...

 

[anrrd_2]

^ditto

 

[CrypticOne]

If indeed it's true that....

Spoiler

....Two-Face/Harvey dies, why do writers/directers do this to major characters, like Venom, for instance? I mean, where is the logic that these are major characters they are giving funerals too? They say that have the utmost respect for the comics, then they wouldn't let Two-Face bite the dust. He is a major figure in the Batman franchise. I just don't see how you can introduce a character and then just kill them off.

 

[omid17]

If indeed it's true that....

Spoiler

....Two-Face/Harvey dies, why do writers/directers do this to major characters, like Venom, for instance? I mean, where is the logic that these are major characters they are giving funerals too? They say that have the utmost respect for the comics, then they wouldn't let Two-Face bite the dust. He is a major figure in the Batman franchise. I just don't see how you can introduce a character and then just kill them off.

agreed but i think Two-Face is going to have more screen time than Venom. But i still think having a movie and Two-Face being the main villain would get boring imo, so having him die in TDK would be cool if he had a lot more screen time that Venom

 

[raxor]

If indeed it's true that....

Spoiler

....Two-Face/Harvey dies, why do writers/directers do this to major characters, like Venom, for instance? I mean, where is the logic that these are major characters they are giving funerals too? They say that have the utmost respect for the comics, then they wouldn't let Two-Face bite the dust. He is a major figure in the Batman franchise. I just don't see how you can introduce a character and then just kill them off.

AGREE

 

[Anubis Raptor]

How does

Spoiler

two face die

?


-Mass D.

 

[omid17]

How does

Spoiler

two face die

?


-Mass D.

You'll know on July 18