The Dark Knight Harvey Dent/Two Face Thread

[tuffenoughtoroc]

Dent is breathing at the end. Whether it's a mistake or not, he's breathing at the end. And it has nothing to do with the camera movement. Bottom Line: Emma Thomas was brilliant to say it's ambiguous.

He doesn't breathe at the end. I've seen it three times and watched carefully and there are absolutely no signs of life!

And it would make no sense if he really was breathing and nobody did anything about it. Gordon or Batman would clearly see it.

 

[Closerframe]

Two-Face didn't even want to live, he even says it to Gordan. "Do you think I wanna escape from this? There is no escape!" he knew he would die one way or another. The whole him being secretly placed into Arkham is the dumbest idea. I mean no one will notice its Harvey Dent. Yea I doubt that.

 

[Yurka]

Two-Face didn't even want to live, he even says it to Gordan. "Do you think I wanna escape from this? There is no escape!" he knew he would die one way or another. The whole him being secretly placed into Arkham is the dumbest idea. I mean no one will notice its Harvey Dent. Yea I doubt that.

, I didnt fall under that impression at all, it came off to me that he was actually starting to embrace it.

 

[ronny]

So, once he made things "even" by killing Gordon's son, where did he really think things would go from there?

 

[Saint.Manuel]

After Dent dies, Batman wants to preserve the White Knight/Dark Knight balance he feels society needs, and becomes Two-Face. Or rather, the murdering vigilante, so Gotham can keep their White Knight in Dent. Of course, we know better.

This is the Point why I think that Dent is still allive!
In the next film it somehow has to be told that Batman didn´t commit those murders. Otherwise they wouldn´t accept him or trust him that he want´s to save the people of Gotham.
They somehow have to tell that it was Dent/TwoFace and the only way you can do that is by having him as a living character in the Movie.
Noone would believe them if they just say it wasn´t Batman.

So in my Opinion, Dent is alive and will return in the next one!
What do you think about that?

 

[SKSpawn]

So, once he made things "even" by killing Gordon's son, where did he really think things would go from there?

Considering the fact that he put the gun to his own head during his russian roulette, I assumed that he was going to kill ll the people who hurt him, even things with Gordon, maybe kill Batman and then kill himself. Either way he would have died from his injuries sooner or later. The fact that Two-Face is only active for a few hours isn't as unbelievable considering his injuries as if he was running around like that for the rest of his life.

 

[Beanjuice]

Considering the fact that he put the gun to his own head during his russian roulette, I assumed that he was going to kill ll the people who hurt him, even things with Gordon, maybe kill Batman and then kill himself. Either way he would have died from his injuries sooner or later. The fact that Two-Face is only active for a few hours isn't as unbelievable considering his injuries as if he was running around like that for the rest of his life.

not necessarily. Its not like he couldnt get proper medical help. Just because he refused skin grafts doenst mean that he couldnt live like that with a little aid. The burns would eventually heal over and his face would be left mangled

 

[The Caped Knight]

by Andre@s

 

[Two-Face]

"You make your own luck"



Eckhart was great! and Kal-El & Ander@s thanks

 

[tuffenoughtoroc]

not necessarily. Its not like he couldnt get proper medical help. Just because he refused skin grafts doenst mean that he couldnt live like that with a little aid. The burns would eventually heal over and his face would be left mangled

The bones, tendons, and muscles were exposed. There's no way he could survive without getting an infection.

 

[Spade]

How quickly can an infection set in and debilitate him? It isn't like he was out wandering around for days. In the context of the film, I think it's plausible enough in a city with men in bat-themed costumes and sociopathic clowns.

 

[Crook]

The question is why is it even an issue? The Two-Face look was relatively faithful to the comic book and I wouldn't have had it any other way.

 

[tuffenoughtoroc]

The question is why is it even an issue? The Two-Face look was relatively faithful to the comic book and I wouldn't have had it any other way.

I agree 100%. But it's sometimes fun to look at it in a realistic way.

 

[Zmoker]

So , er ... remember all that talk about a prosthetic on his left side with cg enhancements?

Um .... did they lie?

 

[The Battousai]

So , er ... remember all that talk about a prosthetic on his left side with cg enhancements?

Um .... did they lie?

Uh....




This was BEFORE he had the Two-Face look.

 

[Zmoker]

Nope, go straight to the bottom of the class, do not collect £200 ...

It's his death scene, hence the abandoned warehouse location and burnt left side of suit.

Plus, that's the only point in the film Harve is lying flat on his back so all debate from where it's from is moot.

No prosthetic, Face was a 100% cgi job.

 

[The Battousai]

Nope, go straight to the bottom of the class, do not collect £200 ...

It's his death scene, hence the abandoned warehouse location and burnt left side of suit.

Plus, that's the only point in the film Harve is lying flat on his back so all debate from where it's from is moot.

No prosthetic, Face was a 100% cgi job.

Actually, you're wrong in a few ways.

The presence of a street curb and the absence of gravel-covered ground show that this is not the death scene, but the scene in which he intially gets torched by the explosion (the first time he's lying flat on his back ).

The burnt side of the suit was much more detailed later on in the film when it was far more noticable. Here it was partially burned away in order to give the CG overlay a little more of a basis to work with.

Also, the main reason for the tracking dots would seem to be for the CG flames protruding from his face and suit in this scene.

 

[Texas Zombie]

Dent doesn't die you will see. It's all part of the plan!

 

[Ace of Knaves]

yea that is deffinatly the scene where his face gets burnt, its where hes rolling around on his back screaming and batmans trying to put the flames out.

 

[Zmoker]

QUOTE: Actually, you're wrong in a few ways.

The presence of a street curb and the absence of gravel-covered ground show that this is not the death scene, but the scene in which he intially gets torched by the explosion (the first time he's lying flat on his back ).

The burnt side of the suit was much more detailed later on in the film when it was far more noticable. Here it was partially burned away in order to give the CG overlay a little more of a basis to work with.

Also, the main reason for the tracking dots would seem to be for the CG flames protruding from his face and suit in this scene. QUOTE.



Spoken like a true detective, sir.

Seems I have no choice but to offer a full apology, accept that frankly top notch analysis, and ponder my own, er ... losing face.

I still want to SEE a pic of Eckhart wearing that elusive facial prosthetic though, dammit! Is there even one out there? The teeth and eye were 100% cg weren't they? but what about the rest?

The only parts that looked touchable-plasticky to me were the burn wealds over his nose, so I assumed they were the actual prosthetic?

Hmmmm, it has been bugging me ....




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[The Battousai]

Spoken like a true detective, sir.

Seems I have no choice but to offer a full apology, accept that frankly top notch analysis, and ponder my own, er ... losing face.

I still want to SEE a pic of Eckhart wearing that elusive facial prosthetic though, dammit! Is there even one out there? The teeth and eye were 100% cg weren't they? but what about the rest?

The only parts that looked touchable-plasticky to me were the burn wealds over his nose, so I assumed they were the actual prosthetic?

Hmmmm, it has been bugging me ....

We all make mistakes

I also want to see this prosthetic - even more so how they managed to make the CG look so damn real...

At least the DVD/Blu-Ray will come out before X-mas t:

 

[Brian Braddock]

Maybe I'm missing something here - but could the prosthetic that everyone is talking about simply have been a green/blue cover in order for the SFX department to render the CG scarring?

Much like the way they did the effects for Arnold's face/skull towards the end of Terminator 3.

 

[The Battousai]

Maybe I'm missing something here - but could the prosthetic that everyone is talking about simply have been a green/blue cover in order for the SFX department to render the CG scarring?

Much like the way they did the effects for Arnold's face/skull towards the end of Terminator 3.

You can see the makeup in the last scene in this clip:
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[tarekk]

Why no photo for (TWO FACE) like photo (JOKER)?

 

[dark_b]

So , er ... remember all that talk about a prosthetic on his left side with cg enhancements?

Um .... did they lie?

then please tell me why are there green dots on the suti? why do they have to motion track the suit?

because of the fire. hes suit was also burning. so this is the burning scene.