Has Spiderman ever defeated Venom in a fight?

[Karea07]

I thought the good guy always won?

 

[SsM]

Umm.. is that real?
Spider-Man shot a laser out of his hand or something..

Isnt that from marvel zombies???? that could be after they ate the silver surfer... I dunno.. I havent read much about the zombies.. but the art looks like it.. and they both talk about being dead.. If it's not from marvel zombies.. Then I suck... and I apologize in advance

 

[Daredevil886]

Isnt that from marvel zombies???? that could be after they ate the silver surfer... I dunno.. I havent read much about the zombies.. but the art looks like it.. and they both talk about being dead.. If it's not from marvel zombies.. Then I suck... and I apologize in advance

Yeeep, you're right.
I just looked it up.. it sounds pretty cool too.

EDIT: It says Marvel Zombies right in the URL, hahaaa.

 

[jor_el]

Hummina, hummina, hummina, WTF are you trying to say? (No, I do NOT understand the words that are trying to come out of your keyboard!)

I really have no clue it was making sense at the time but the 10 cans of larger i had may have had somthing to do with it. I think it was suposed to go along the lines of spidy wont be fighting venom in this Movie may be the next one.

 

[November Rain]

i don't understand why some people don't think venom has never been defeated by spidey



does outsmarting someone no longer count as winning a fight? WHere does it say that you have to pummel someone to the ground in order to gain victory?

 

[Won '08]

Funny how neither of you manage to back this up. But way to come up with a stupid and very unfunny joke though. What first grader did you steal it from?

I didn't have to back it up because Captain Stacy already has...as well as homeboy who answered the first time.

If it were so "stupid" and "unfunny" you would have ignored it. It riled you up, meaning it served it's purpose.

Good job , Tool

 

[Dragon]

I didn't have to back it up because Captain Stacy already has...as well as homeboy who answered the first time.

Uhh.. Captain Stacy responded AFTER you did. And which "homeboy" are you talking about? But it's clear why you didn't back up your statement. You don't know jack sh**.

If it were so "stupid" and "unfunny" you would have ignored it. It riled you up, meaning it served it's purpose.

Good job , Tool

I know how important my opinion is to you- so I'll allow you to dream this dream.

 

[TheFlyinRussian]

Venom won't help out Spidey in anyway,at least I'm hoping he won't.I'd like to see a scene after they've fought each other and know who they both are where Brock just shows up at Aunt May's house while Peter and MJ are having lunch and they have a really tense conversation where Pete & Eddie keep giving each other deep glares.

 

[Reikowolf]

Spidey has always found a way to defeat Venom

although not physically stronger, Spidey is much more intelligent and has used this to gain the upper hand

Venom came close recently but then the carnage symbiote (which he ate earlier) began to effect him and he had to leave the fight.

It's suggested that the symbiote has always wanted Peter back and would never kill him because of this.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

he kiked the crap out of venom(didnt kill him) in usm the game.

 

[sag002]

um...first meeting.

 

[Ludachris333]

No. He's never beaten Venom. Which is why I hate every Venom story ever written. They make Spidey into a wuss (That entire David Michelinie run had Spidey as a punk-ass). Spidey is supposed to be the guy who finds a way to stop his foes. But in te case of Venom he just knuckled under and let Venom kick his ass. It's disgusting. But I'm sure that Raimi, who doesn't like Venom to begin with, will have Spidey open a can a' whoop-ass on him.

i agree with the person who said that "outsmarting someone" counts as beating them. just cause spidey didn't pummel him doesn't make him a wuss, i dont know why you think that.

 

[Weapon M]

I loved the end sequence in the Ultimate Spider-Man game(only part i liked lol) where you see spidey beat the crap out of venom on top of that building.

something like that in the film would be nice!!

The game doesnt count, and thats convenient.. So, is the Scarlett Spider story.
Those are changing the original battles between Venom and Spiderman.

Venom was always MUCH more difficult to defeat.

BTW Great question.

 

[Weapon M]

Venom won't help out Spidey in anyway,at least I'm hoping he won't.I'd like to see a scene after they've fought each other and know who they both are where Brock just shows up at Aunt May's house while Peter and MJ are having lunch and they have a really tense conversation where Pete & Eddie keep giving each other deep glares.

you know something, you came up with a concept I never thought about. In the comic books, the only villain that would come close to helping Spiderman wouldnt be Doc Ock, or Green Goblin ONE OR TWO, or Sandman, it would always be Venom!!!

Damn, I hope they dont show Venom as a mindless zombie monster! I hope he speaks etc. "WE WANT TO EAT SPIDEYS BRAIINNNS" oh wait that sounds Zombiesh.

Umm. .Well, yeah Venom always worries about innocent people. That's where Spiderman has always been blessed. Cause Venom is extremely difficult enough, having to stop him from hurting people would make it almost impossible. Venom would put aside his mortal vendetta against spiderman to save an innocent life.

I doubt though those dynamics would be in the movie.

 

[Dragon]

i agree with the person who said that "outsmarting someone" counts as beating them. just cause spidey didn't pummel him doesn't make him a wuss, i dont know why you think that.

Yeah, but letting Venom go free to get a guarantee that venom wouldn't go after his family does. (ASM #375)

Letting Venom- a murderer- go free after convincing him that Spidey was dead does. (ASM #347).

Reuniting Eddie (Who didn't want to be) with the symbiote just because Spidey didn't have the balls to watch him die does. (Spec. Spidey #5)

Hell, even his "strategy" in ASM #317 was pretty wussy.

Spidey's not supposed to back down. Spidey's supposed to find the way to have the crook on his face, regretting that he screwed around on Spider-Man's turf.

 

[Visionary]

I'm sorry, but Spider-Man will never be able to defeat Venom. Venom has Godmode on.

Sounds like what makes Superman character so boring.

 

[Won '08]

Uhh.. Captain Stacy responded AFTER you did. And which "homeboy" are you talking about? But it's clear why you didn't back up your statement. You don't know jack sh**.




I know how important my opinion is to you- so I'll allow you to dream this dream.

Aww Dragon still trying to show off his big boy pull up pampers.

How cute.

 

[Dragon]

And yet... Still you bring nothing of value to the conversation. You're not worthy of my notice.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

he crushed Venom under a buliding in "the last stand" graphic novel.. it was when Mac Gargan was consumed by Venom

 

[Visionary]

I'm having flashbacks of Mac Gargan wearing the symbiote.

 

[Dragon]

I'm having flashbacks of Mac Gargan wearing the symbiote.

That was such cheez. First, since Gargan already had super powers, he should have made for an immensely more powerful Venom. But also, they should have made him a Venom/Scorpion combo, not just another Venom.

What's even sillier is that Marvel blinked. Eddie Brock is still alive.

 

[Spidey_Zombie]

Yeeep, you're right.
I just looked it up.. it sounds pretty cool too.

EDIT: It says Marvel Zombies right in the URL, hahaaa.

You guys can read it on the official myspace...

http://www.myspace.com/marvelzombies

 

[Visionary]

That was such cheez. First, since Gargan already had super powers, he should have made for an immensely more powerful Venom. But also, they should have made him a Venom/Scorpion combo, not just another Venom.

What's even sillier is that Marvel blinked. Eddie Brock is still alive.

That's what I don't understand about the symbiote. Spider-Man already has super-powers, he should be 20 times more powerful than Eddie Brock in the symbiote. And when Eddie has the symbiote, he and Spidey's super-powers should be about the same. But that's never the case.

 

[Dragon]

That's what I don't understand about the symbiote. Spider-Man already has super-powers, he should be 20 times more powerful than Eddie Brock in the symbiote. And when Eddie has the symbiote, he and Spidey's super-powers should be about the same. But that's never the case.

Exactly. That's why I've never liked Venom- or at least stories with Venom. the character is only as good or bad as the writers handle him. But I never liked that they simply put all the aces in Venom's deck from day one. It's lazy writing. Because it's easy to say Venom is superior to Spidey in every way, so each battle is a foregone conclusion.

If the writers made Venom formidable, and Spidey rise to the occasion to defeat him, it means each time they brought Venom back they'd have to exercise a little creativity and make him more dangerous, as Stan and other talented writers did with the villains they worked on. And by more dangerous, I mean more than increasing the sharpness of the teeth he never used, the length of his tongue or the amount of bile dripping from his mouth.

 

[Visionary]

Did Stan Lee ever write a Venom story, I'm sure he would have giving something a bit more interesting? I'm curious what the hell they plan on doing with Venom in this movie. How much power over Spidey will have, or won't have?

The way they write Venom in the comics, makes it too easy for him to kill Spider-Man, and how come Venom just doesn't go slaughter Aunt May, Mary Jane and Harry and everyone Spidey knows. What's stopping him, there's no way Spider-Man can even protect them against him?