Days of Future Past Have you seen X-Men: First Class? Post here!

[kedrell]

Ok. just got back from seeing the movie. Hmm, my initial reaction if I had to 'on the spot' just give it a rating based on my first impression....I'd give it a 7.5/10 with enough worthiness to it that in the above poll I'd round up instead of down so I voted an 8 in the poll. Basically about even with what I gave Thor. Both have their unique strengths and weaknesses which the other doesn't have. But I reckon them about even over-all. I'd say it's a toss up at this point whether I like it better than X2(IMO, the X-men franchise's current high water mark). It's definitely better than X1 to me and fuhgedaboudit when comparing it to X3 or XO:W. Blows those 2 outta the water like a torpedo.

But I'm really gonna have to chew on it a bit more(more viewings) before I can begin to coalesce my true opinion of it into any sort of a review. Best superhero movie ever? Not really, IMO. I thought Vaughn's Kick-Ass was definitely better and there are several better SH films beyond that. But it may just be the best X-men film and thus by definition, the best FOX has ever made of it's Marvel films.

So I'll watch it probably at least 3-4 more times this weekend and then see what I think about it.

 

[craigdbfan]

That one is also debatable though isn't it? Correct me if i'm wrong but,

At the time Magneto and Mystique left Xavier in the Dark Cerebro, were they aware the dam had been ruptured and that the whole facility was going to come down? From my memory I don't believe they did.

I again took that as them simply leaving him to wake up in a "brave new world".

...only they failed both times, lol.

They definitely were aware.

 

[LostSon88]

Okay...I suppose I stand corrected then.

 

[insane polaris]

I love how Shaw is so similar to older Magneto.

Its like as much as Eric hates Shaw, he will inevitably become the same as his creator.

 

[pyromaniac]

I get the feeling alot ended up on the cutting room floor for pacing reasons. James McAvoy did an interview a couple days ago on the BBC were he said Charles and Erik had a fight with a 7 foot tall guy that was cut from the movie. Mathew Vaughn also said he cut the romance subplot between Moria and Charles.

The scen in the trailers of Havok using his powers outside the mansion also wasn't in the movie

Ohh. What 7 foot tall guy? When would that take place during the film?

I don't mind the exclusion of the romance subplot... But it almost felt forced when

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Charles and Moira kissed at the end. Funnily enough, if they kept the subplot in, it would have made Moira's mindwipe the more meaningful for it.

Ah, I had forgotten about Havok's powers outside the mansion. It's a good thing that I wasn't looking for it while watching the film. But I wonder whom he was directing at. Does anybody know?

And for those who saw the behind the scenes featurette,

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can anybody also remind me what Azazel and Riptide said to Angel in the war room? It's probably only time Riptide had lines.

With reference to that psychic battle that was supposed to have taken place between Charles and Emma, I'm assuming that would've been when

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Emma was caught. It would've been nice if Charles had mused that he 'found another telepath - an equal', but considering how it happened, after interference during the first submarine scene, she seemed weak compared to him. Some reports indicated that she was stronger than him at the time.

 

[Gianakin_]

The movie was absolutely fantastic. The humor, the action, the music, the acting, the characters, the plot, the cameos and nods!

The FX were not the best possible but I wish I gave a damn, seeing that the story was excellent. The franchise is back in full force. See Fox? That's what happens when you let your directors fulfill their vision! Bring on X-Men Second Class (or whatever). I'm even willing to ignore the few gigantic plot holes with regard to the movie universe in general.

One thing I didn't like was

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that the friendship between X and Erik lasted for only 2 weeks. I mean, I get that X read Erik's mind and it was as if they knew each other in years, but I still wanted more.

I really wouldn't have minded if they stayed friends and they became enemies in the sequel. Same goes for Mystique. She didn't have to go now, but it's fine. A good way to "rectify" that would be to have something of a "cold war" between them in Second Class, not a full confrontation between the X-Men and the Brotherhood. They can leave that for Third Class.

Other than that, the movie was as solid as Emma's diamond skin. Bravo to all involved.

 

[craigdbfan]

The more I keep thinking about it the more I fall in love with it. I'm watching this several times. I want to see it in a theater as many times as I possibly can.

 

[Gianakin_]

The more I keep thinking about it the more I fall in love with it. I'm watching this several times. I want to see it in a theater as many times as I possibly can.

Ich auch.

 

[kedrell]

The more I think about it, the more I am becoming certain that I doubt subsequent viewings are likely to push my rating any higher. I doubt it'll drop either. But I still want to see it a few more times anyway.

 

[craigdbfan]

Ich auch.

Reizend.

 

[Gianakin_]

I see that others have touched upon the rushed [BLACKOUT]Charles-Erik relationship[/BLACKOUT]. Good.

Oh, and the fact they had the HUMONGOUS balls to show [BLACKOUT]Magneto's full costume with the colours and helmet design and everything[/BLACKOUT].... wow! Props.

 

[craigdbfan]

Oh, and the fact they had the HUMONGOUS balls to show [BLACKOUT]Magneto's full costume with the colours and helmet design and everything[/BLACKOUT].... wow! Props.

[BLACKOUT]Early on I said that I saw the purple trimming on the helmet in the first trailer.

Good to see that confirmed but I wasn't expecting the front head piece to be exactly like that of the comics.[/BLACKOUT] It oozed reverential awesomeness.

 

[Gianakin_]

I think it was the decade that really justifies anything aesthetically. Now, don't get me wrong, I think [BLACKOUT]Mag's costume[/BLACKOUT] from X1-3 was beyond awesome, but damn, [BLACKOUT]was it faithful in FC[/BLACKOUT]!

 

[kedrell]

More of my first/random thoughts(instead of merely ranking it in the genre)

I'll spoiler tag it all just to be safe but I don't think there are really any significant spoilers in it:

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Fassbender & McAvoy pretty much embody their characters, as does Jennifer Lawrence and maybe Nicholas Hoult. That's about all the stellar casting there is here. The rest is mostly just adequet but don't really embody who they're playing. I will say though that I still don't know why Xavier needs a British accent. He was born and grew up in New York state. He's an American. But that's a minor quibble.

For the most part, the SFX and action are done well. There was really never any 'Whoa!' moment in the film for me but I also don't remember any moments either. Nothing ever really struck me on par with the level of the Nightcrawler attack opening scene or Magneto's escape in X2, though. At the same time, there's no BS love triangle here like there was in X2(continued from X1..you know what I'm talking about -Logan/Jean/Scott). There was a quasi-love triangle here I guess but it was much better(Charles/Raven/Erik) and centered around more than just physical attraction.

 

[J.Howlett]

kedrell,

There was a "Whoa" moment. The death of Shaw. That was "whoa".

 

[craigdbfan]

There were a ton of "Whoa" moments for me personally but hey I loved this movie.

 

[Gianakin_]

Yeah, there were many "whoa" moments for me as well. Especially during the final 3rd of the film.

 

[Spikey]

This is nitpicking but... when Erik goes to Argentina (Villa Gesell) and they showed the place, the entire audience laughed....

Why? Because I'm from Argentina and that place WASN'T Villa Gesell... in fact, the place is entirely different (actually is almost like a giant beach)

 

[kedrell]

I see that others have touched upon the rushed [BLACKOUT]Charles-Erik relationship[/BLACKOUT]. Good.

Oh, and the fact they had the HUMONGOUS balls to show [BLACKOUT]Magneto's full costume with the colours and helmet design and everything[/BLACKOUT].... wow! Props.

Having the balls to do it is one thing, and I can commend them for it. But it's still much better when you can both have the balls AND THE BRAINS to work it in cleverly so that it fits the film like a glove. IMO, it didn't quite make that level here.

 

[kedrell]

kedrell,

There was a "Whoa" moment. The death of Shaw. That was "whoa".

Hmm, that was good and I appreciated their willingness to go there. But it sure didn't go to that level for me though. A 'whoa!' moment for me needs more, IMO. It's got to be something that I don't see coming and probably wouldn't have had the imagination enough to think of it in the first place. In X2, Nightcrawler's attack & Maggy's escape were at that level.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

I really wasn't convinced by Shaws death.
Sure we can say Shaw has to use his powers actively...

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to explain why it even hurt him when the bullets fired at him earlier couldnt damage him... but still, going at that slow speed would have just pushed him over... its not like Prof X can actually freeze people in place completely like that, he just pauses their mind in place..

Really think its a shame Shaw died, having a character that can carry out plans of that magnitude was great.

And to be fair, much as I love Magnetos costume in the comics... he did look quite stupid at the end there. ade no sense to the character to suddenly start dressing up like that either. I would have given him the X1/X2 uniform in black, with the FirstClass helmet in its original silver.

 

[kedrell]

I do think the potentially biggest 'whoa!' moment of the film actually got axed(Xavier & Frost dueling on the astral plane or something like that).

 

[Alientraveller]

For me the whoa moment was Magneto finally lifting the sub. And whenever Banshee flew, it was just great seeing the actors' face and not a CG double.

 

[Roose Bolton]

the biggest "whoa" moment for me was

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Charles getting hit by that bullet, i knew he was going to be crippled but damn that caught me off guard, and Erik's reaction, really great acting.

 

[kedrell]

For me the whoa moment was Magneto finally lifting the sub. And whenever Banshee flew, it was just great seeing the actors' face and not a CG double.

Unfortunately, that was given away in the trailer.