Days of Future Past Have you seen X-Men: First Class? Post here!

[Gianakin_]

Watch the stand-off between Magneto and the cops in X1, with the knowledge of how Xavier became paralyzed. "Want to press your luck, Charles? I don't think I can stop them all."

Damn, you're right!

 

[J.Howlett]

Maniac,

I totally agree that the last 15 minutes are technically correct because of the situation presented. We can't assume that a sequel is coming, so Vaughn almost had no choice but to put the characters in their future positions just in case the film tanks. But, because of the fast pace and the great chemistry on display, it feels like we don't get enough of the relationship stuff eventhough we actually do. It's a balancing act that I don't think Vaughn quite cracked...but he came awfully close.

As for the action, yeah, Erik trying to take down the yacht was the closest to anything, action wise to X2. It's a great sequence. I disagree on your comment about Singer not having them work as a team.

As an aside, Jennifer Lawrence's performance killed me even more the second time. Her relationship with Xavier is so sad because all Xavier is trying to do is protect his "sister" the whole film, not truly understanding that having her shielded in that way would kind of prove Erik's point. While her rushing to Erik's bed was a tad fast, character wise, it's money. And Lawrence sells the hell out of her transformation even though you clearly tell that leaving Xavier was a hard choice for her. She still loves him.

I just love the fact that the alteration in Xavier's philosophy stems from his relationship with Raven. Just brilliant stuff

 

[The Demon's Head]

Damn, you're right!

The look on Xavier's face makes it worse.

"You Homo Sapiens and your guns" is another line that stands out now.

 

[J.Howlett]

There's a whole lot that stands out on X-Men and X2 after this film. Those two films have been changed forever...

 

[SuperSoldier985]

The audience at my show started applauding when he walked in with the suit.

Dammit, I need to see this again.

The music and the bars they used during that scene were great as well.

 

[NinjaCarm]

Well here goes, NinjaCarm's review:

I liked it. A lot. But it had some issues for me. Let me start with my issues. The pacing felt off, wrong, too fast at times. This meant that the weight of the situations didn't feel right, which make things bad. There was some definate cheese. Which I hate.

Also, the musical score?? WTF sometimes!! It was like "Here are the X-Men! Here comes Mighty Mouse to save the day!!" WTF!

That was pretty much it. Pacing, cheesy at times, and score at times made me cringe.

The positives: Felt like an actual X-Men movie for once if that makes any sense. The acting was good for the most part. The Wolverine cameo was great. Mystique was great, IMO. The action was very good most of the time. Good mutant vs. mutant action at the end.

Had a lot going for it, but some definite problems which I get corrected the second time around.

 

[chamber-music]

I, personally, don't care about the continuity 'issues'. But a lot of the more narrow-thinking, obsessional fanboys seem to be totally hung up on it. i spotted an editorial on the-site-that-cannot-be-named in which commenters tore it apart on continuity grounds and just could not get past it.

The general public, the ones who make the difference in weather or not these movies get made also couldn't give a flying f**k about this. People need to just relax a bit more at these types of film.

I've noticed alot of criticism along the lines of Erik and Charles should have been friends and the end of this film, that would have confused the general public! Sequel or no sequel planned you can't let the gen-pop leave the theatre confused and they would if that movie had of ended with Charles and Erik still best buds. In a sequel they can go back and forth and have thier friendship grow in one respect and disitegrate in another.

Yes fanboys want things spread out over several films but it's just not realistic, unless the films are written(and more ofthen than not filmed) at the same time it's for the best the just concentrate on making one good movie and seeing if the general public decide that it's a franchise worth investing in. if you hold back thinking that you will save things for later films you are more than likely not going to make it to those later films.

Pretty much sums up what I would say these movies have loose continuity if you want to enjoy the films you sort of have to accept that the general public doesn't analyze these movies in minute detail like the fans do.

 

[kedrell]

After seeing this the 2nd time, I think they would have done themselves more of a favor if this had just been a Chuck & Erik movie and left the formation of the X-Men to the sequel. Then so many of the new mutants wouldn't have felt like they were getting glossed over. This movie throws a lot at you for the amount of time it's on and I just think a more measured and patient approach would have worked better. I saw this with my brother(who isn't a comics fan) and the main thing he told me was that it felt cluttered by too much going on and not enough breathing space to take it all in. Oh and he said he didn't care much for many of the in-jokes/winks either(such as Xavier's going bald remark, etc.) since they kind of break the illusion and remind you that you are watching a movie. I must say, I agree with him.

 

[ciscostudent561]

Kedrell u better give xmen a higher score or I'll have u ip banned

 

[SuperSoldier985]

C'mon, alot of those in-jokes in the movie not only fit the scene and the conversations that they were used in, but seriously, it's not that big a deal. They're meant to release the tension and the drama that was otherwise built up at that point.

 

[roach]

I've noticed alot of criticism along the lines of Erik and Charles should have been friends and the end of this film, that would have confused the general public! Sequel or no sequel planned you can't let the gen-pop leave the theatre confused and they would if that movie had of ended with Charles and Erik still best buds. In a sequel they can go back and forth and have thier friendship grow in one respect and disitegrate in another.

Yes fanboys want things spread out over several films but it's just not realistic, unless the films are written(and more ofthen than not filmed) at the same time it's for the best the just concentrate on making one good movie and seeing if the general public decide that it's a franchise worth investing in. if you hold back thinking that you will save things for later films you are more than likely not going to make it to those later films.

I disagree with this. The GA(General Audience) arent stupid and very few people who have seen this movie didnt see the first set of movies. People know that these guys will be enemies so blow your load on the first movie...because you dont think the movie is gonna make money????
Why make a movie if you dont think its gonna make money?

Do you think the GA knew that Cap, Thor and IM were on a team called the Avengers before IM came out???
The movies built up the hype towards Avengers.
These movies could have built up towards the breaking of the friendship. Allude to the fact that Erik is too full of hate to comply with Xavier's Dream.

 

[roach]

After seeing this the 2nd time, I think they would have done themselves more of a favor if this had just been a Chuck & Erik movie and left the formation of the X-Men to the sequel. Then so many of the new mutants wouldn't have felt like they were getting glossed over. This movie throws a lot at you for the amount of time it's on and I just think a more measured and patient approach would have worked better. I saw this with my brother(who isn't a comics fan) and the main thing he told me was that it felt cluttered by too much going on and not enough breathing space to take it all in. Oh and he said he didn't care much for many of the in-jokes/winks either(such as Xavier's going bald remark, etc.) since they kind of break the illusion and remind you that you are watching a movie. I must say, I agree with him.

I agree with this.

 

[tedw]

After seeing this the 2nd time, I think they would have done themselves more of a favor if this had just been a Chuck & Erik movie and left the formation of the X-Men to the sequel. Then so many of the new mutants wouldn't have felt like they were getting glossed over.

Never would have happened - I think the studio realizes that a big draw is the "pick 'n mix" of mutants, which is why a movie about Wolverine heavily featured a group of mutants in its promotional material. No matter who the film is about, there must always be a supporting cast of mutant characters in an effort to draw the crowds.

I do think it's a bit of a shame that First Class focuses so little on the actual first class... perhaps narrowing their choice of recruits to three, instead of six, could've left more room for future additions and given those three more development time.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

I liked it, despite a few continuity issues with the other films. A couple line changes here and there could've easily fixed up several of those, but it is what it is.

 

[kedrell]

Never would have happened - I think the studio realizes that a big draw is the "pick 'n mix" of mutants, which is why a movie about Wolverine heavily featured a group of mutants in its promotional material. No matter who the film is about, there must always be a supporting cast of mutant characters in an effort to draw the crowds.

I do think it's a bit of a shame that First Class focuses so little on the actual first class... perhaps narrowing their choice of recruits to three, instead of six, could've left more room for future additions and given those three more development time.

I think fox THINKS the big draw is that. But since when do they understand anything about telling a good story? But you're right, they never would have green-lit a Chuck & Erik movie. Oh well.

 

[roach]

I liked it, despite a few continuity issues with the other films. A couple line changes here and there could've easily fixed up several of those, but it is what it is.

the biggest for me being in X-men its mentioned that Magneto knew what to do to sabotage cerebro because he helped Xavier build it....where as in FC Hank builds it by himself

 

[JP]

Think I'll see this a 3rd time today.

 

[kedrell]

Me too.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

If Shaw was really powerful then he wouldn't have gotten his butt handed to him so easily in the movie. What the hell happened? He really didn't try to stop Magneto before he freezed up. He became a weak villain imo.

 

[tedw]

I think fox THINKS the big draw is that. But since when do they understand anything about telling a good story? But you're right, they never would have green-lit a Chuck & Erik movie. Oh well.

Good point - I didn't mean that a big group of mutants IS a must, but the studio certainly believes it to be.

In a way, adding more mutants does have an appeal, because if you love Jean Grey and I love Storm and both are in the movie, we're both likely to want to see it. If a movie only stars Magneto and I despise Magneto, they've potentially lost my ticket money. It's just a shame that mutants get stuffed in based on visual appeal without regard to making them an important or interesting character (pretty much the entirety of Magneto's army in X3, and quite a lot of the young recruits in XMFC).

 

[roach]

Good point - I didn't mean that a big group of mutants IS a must, but the studio certainly believes it to be.

In a way, adding more mutants does have an appeal, because if you love Jean Grey and I love Storm and both are in the movie, we're both likely to want to see it. If a movie only stars Magneto and I despise Magneto, they've potentially lost my ticket money. It's just a shame that mutants get stuffed in based on visual appeal without regard to making them an important or interesting character (pretty much the entirety of Magneto's army in X3, and quite a lot of the young recruits in XMFC).

I dont think this is true....using your example if I was a fan of Cyclops I wouldnt see this movie cause he isnt in it

 

[tedw]

I dont think this is true....using your example if I was a fan of Cyclops I wouldnt see this movie cause he isnt in it

I'm not sure what you disagree with, exactly.

My point was that I think Fox thinks, and partially rightly so, that having more characters in there draws more fans of those individual characters. I don't think that's the only reason people go to see the movie, but I think it can help for certain people.

 

[yoyobaby]

So, is Alex Summers his father now? 'Cause it seems to me that Cyclops could only have been recruted in the 1980's.

 

[Vilya]

If Shaw was really powerful then he wouldn't have gotten his butt handed to him so easily in the movie. What the hell happened? He really didn't try to stop Magneto before he freezed up. He became a weak villain imo.

Once the helmet was removed, Charles could control his mind and switch off his abilities, thats why professor X is among the most powerful mutants on earth.

 

[kedrell]

You gotta wonder why Erik didn't just yank Shaw's helmet off immediately. Why did he need to manipulate a piece of metal to yoink his helmet off his head? Isn't the helmet made of metal?