The Dark Knight Heath Ledger Dead - ALL talk/rememberance and discussion in here

[roach]

The Bourne Ultimatum didn't get nominated for anything big. This isn't Lord of the Rings. It won't get that kind of recognition no matter how good it is.

the Batman series will never be nominated as best picture. Trust me on this.

 

[boroboro]

The Bourne Ultimatum didn't get nominated for anything big. This isn't Lord of the Rings. It won't get that kind of recognition no matter how good it is.

Read my post above. I think, as much as I dont like it, Heath's death will give it a spotlight that it woulndt have gotten before, and the academy will try to bank on it. I could be wrong.

 

[boroboro]

the Batman series will never be nominated as best picture. Trust me on this.

We were talking about Bale for best actor/heath for best supporting... I think we all agree that theres no way a comic movie will win the best movie in a while...

 

[antonydelfini]

The Academy will give Ledger the win in 09 Im telling you. He didn't get the best actor last time, maybe because the academy knows he'll be back there. Hell, everyone knows he'll be a future best actor winner.

As for the legendary Daniel Day-Lewis being all humble and dedicating his win to an actor he doesn't know, what a class act. But any actor who has seen Ledger's performances will surely admire the guy especially in Brokeback Mountain. (actually there are many similarities between the methods of Heath and Daniel, maybe Daniel could be the Joker in part 3, now that would blow my mind).

That SAG Awards show made me miss Heath's talent so much.

 

[Argyle of Sock]

Read my post above. I think, as much as I dont like it, Heath's death will give it a spotlight that it woulndt have gotten before, and the academy will try to bank on it. I could be wrong.

It's not the Academy trying to bank on it, it's the studios. The way the Oscars are run these days the awards have nothing to with who or what was artistically best, and it has everything to do with lobbying. I could potentially see WB lobbying for an Oscar for Heath because of the attention it would bring to their film.

 

[Dark Sentinel]

I am predicting that Heaths performance might get him a nomination for best Best Supporting Actor at the Oscars

oh really? because i'm predicting he will t:

btw whoever posted that Newsweek article about Nolan's statement, wow..i teared up reading that

here's the link for those who dont know what i'm talking about:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/105580

 

[Solidus]

the Batman series will never be nominated as best picture. Trust me on this.

You have a time machine?

Some said the same about Sigoruney with Aliens.

I remember people told me in 2001 that LOTR would never be nominated/win because it was a fantasy blockbuster. And it did quite well.

Though none of us can no for sure, I'm always hopeful but who knows if any of the Bat films would be nominated.

As for Heath, I do grow tired of some claiming that we are saying he deserves and oscar in wake of his death. When most of the regular's and some of the mods know we have been talking about him getting an oscar since September when Caine gushed over his work as the Joker. And even more so after the trailer.

My thoughts have never changed, I think he may get some recognition, will he win I dunnno. But in all honesty we can not know until we see TDK in its full glory.

But I think out of any comic book character Heath's Joker has the best chance so far of being nodded to by the Acadamey.

 

[TheDarkVictory]

Lewis will always be one of my favorite actors. And for what he said on Oprah was very emotional. He really wanted to work with Ledger in his words.

yeah he's my favorite, as well. i've seen there will be blood four times and the "i've abandoned my child" scene STILL gives me chills.

 

[ANTOINE X]

That s why I have a problem with oscar they always give the oscars to old movie like queen Elizabeth but action movie :no can do ,only if it s visual fx or sound fx. That's got to change

 

[boroboro]

I dont think we can make any judgments before we make any final arguments on Heath's performance. But Im just saying if he does put up a brilliant performance, which i think he will, I think he would be up for an award in march.

 

[TheBat812]

Yeah but if they give Heath even just a fraction of a Nom, then they must give a NOM to Bale for Best Actor, and maybe BEST PICTURE due in part you cant just say the supporting actor was the best part of a film. There has to be more involved. Its not like its some low budget joe doing this film. Or someone like MCG. This is Christopher Nolan, who makes a great film everytime out. This isnt just an ordinary action packed film based off a comic book. This is a man taking stories and making it one long story in 2-2:30 hours with action sequences.

they don't have to do anything.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Read my post above. I think, as much as I dont like it, Heath's death will give it a spotlight that it woulndt have gotten before, and the academy will try to bank on it. I could be wrong.

I think Heath will get nominated and might win. Otherwise, TDK might get nominated for Cinematography, which Pfister was nominated for with both Batman Begins and The Prestige. It will not be eligible for Best Score because there are two composers. And otherwise, TDK might get nominated for makeup for Heath. Of the big awards, Heath is the only one with a shot.

 

[LibraryKrystal]

A photo taken by a friend of mine. This is the skateshop from Lords of Dogtown in Santa Monica.

 

[redfirebird2008]

yeah he's my favorite, as well. i've seen there will be blood four times and the "i've abandoned my child" scene STILL gives me chills.

Yes, it's the most powerful scene by any actor that I've ever seen. In fact, his acting in the movie as a whole is probably the best performance I've seen in a movie.

 

[The Senator]

Considering this year's Oscar contenders haven't emerged yet, I don't think anyone can assume he will be nominated.

But if by some twist of fate this performance is nominated, he will not win. No way. This is not the type of role the Academy goes for, and why should they? Because he died? How many talented actors in non-Oscar-baity roles have been nominated for an award, let alone won?

The only nominee I can think of in this situation is Anne Ramsey from "Throw Momma Off the Train."

The last winner to win an award posthumously was Peter Finch for "Network," and he gave an astounding performance. His death wasn't the sole reason for either his nomination or his win; it was his performance.

The Academy isn't sitting down and drooling in anticipation over "The Dark Knight." And after it comes out, and has its dues at the box office and with fanboys, they'll likely forget about it.

Sorry, but that's just how it is.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Considering this year's Oscar contenders haven't emerged yet, I don't think anyone can assume he will be nominated.

But if by some twist of fate this performance is nominated, he will not win. No way. This is not the type of role the Academy goes for, and why should they? Because he died? How many talented actors in non-Oscar-baity roles have been nominated for an award, let alone won?

The only nominee I can think of in this situation is Anne Ramsey from "Throw Momma Off the Train."

The last winner to win an award posthumously was Peter Finch for "Network," and he gave an astounding performance. His death wasn't the sole reason for either his nomination or his win; it was his performance.

The Academy isn't sitting down and drooling in anticipation over "The Dark Knight." And after it comes out, and has its dues at the box office and with fanboys, they'll likely forget about it.

Sorry, but that's just how it is.

Johnny Depp in Pirates is the BEST example of an actor being nominated from a non-Oscar type of movie.

 

[boroboro]

Considering this year's Oscar contenders haven't emerged yet, I don't think anyone can assume he will be nominated.

But if by some twist of fate this performance is nominated, he will not win. No way. This is not the type of role the Academy goes for, and why should they? Because he died? How many talented actors in non-Oscar-baity roles have been nominated for an award, let alone won?

The only nominee I can think of in this situation is Anne Ramsey from "Throw Momma Off the Train."

The last winner to win an award posthumously was Peter Finch for "Network," and he gave an astounding performance. His death wasn't the sole reason for either his nomination or his win; it was his performance.

The Academy isn't sitting down and drooling in anticipation over "The Dark Knight." And after it comes out, and has its dues at the box office and with fanboys, they'll likely forget about it.

Sorry, but that's just how it is.

I agree with you mostly, yet, we havent seen his performance..

 

[Kelly]

I'm not saying he should get it because he died.....that's as silly as the woman who got best supporting actress for Titanic.......she got it because it was her last movie and she had been around forever......she didn't even do that great of a job in Titanic. But from what I've seen so far, I think this could be the comic book role that gets the nom........

 

[TheBat812]

Does anybody have a link to the remembrance video or Daniel Day-Lewis's acceptance speech?

 

[The Senator]

I agree with you mostly, yet, we havent seen his performance..

Right. Which is why any talks of him winning an Oscar is completely pointless.

 

[Solidus]

Considering this year's Oscar contenders haven't emerged yet, I don't think anyone can assume he will be nominated.

But if by some twist of fate this performance is nominated, he will not win. No way. This is not the type of role the Academy goes for, and why should they? Because he died? How many talented actors in non-Oscar-baity roles have been nominated for an award, let alone won?

The only nominee I can think of in this situation is Anne Ramsey from "Throw Momma Off the Train."

The last winner to win an award posthumously was Peter Finch for "Network," and he gave an astounding performance. His death wasn't the sole reason for either his nomination or his win; it was his performance.

The Academy isn't sitting down and drooling in anticipation over "The Dark Knight." And after it comes out, and has its dues at the box office and with fanboys, they'll likely forget about it.

Sorry, but that's just how it is.

It is too early to tell so who knows.

But yet again, exactaly what you said is how many sounded about LOTR before FOTR was even released. Some said hey maybe it will get some Oscars. And everyone said no way, a fantasy film? Wizard's? Dragons, Dark lords oh my. And it sure showed people wrong.

I can't say one way or another, but times do change. I just don't like the people that think TDK can't have a chance because its not some artsy independent/depressing film. Gladiator surprised everyone as well. People will not nominate Heath just because he died this I will agree with, but if his performance is as great as many have claimed, then he very well might.

 

[Argyle of Sock]

A photo taken by a friend of mine. This is the skateshop from Lords of Dogtown in Santa Monica.

Aww... that's sweet. Sad, but sweet.

("Sweet"... not a word I thought I'd ever use to describe grafitti.)

 

[redfirebird2008]

I'm not saying he should get it because he died.....that's as silly as the woman who got best supporting actress for Titanic.......she got it because it was her last movie and she had been around forever......she didn't even do that great of a job in Titanic. But from what I've seen so far, I think this could be the comic book role that gets the nom........

Gloria Stuart did not win for Titanic. She was nominated.

 

[Kelly]

Gloria Stuart did not win for Titanic. She was nominated.

Oooooh.......Thank goodness....cause she did not deserve it.....nice lady.....but her performance was pretty forgettable....

Edit: She won the SAG award for supporting actor....

 

[Bond]

A photo taken by a friend of mine. This is the skateshop from Lords of Dogtown in Santa Monica.

Awh